Very interesting. The text reads almost like a Japanese national that learned English there.. sounds very similar. Also it seems the British intelligence service might have been the hand moving all this together. Personally I love and admire the Japanese, despite not having any ancestral ties to them. I just love their geographical wonders and culture. RIP Shinzo Abe ❤️
I'll look at this a bit more closely tomorrow; late night shift here now.
But a few points worth remembering: Japan was opened up not by the British but by the US, when the US sent a fleet of ships uninvited into Tokyo bay and essentially told the Japanese, you MUST trade with us or we'll blow you to smithereens. Up until this time, Japan only allowed very limited trade with the Netherlands at two specific ports; for all other intents and purposes, Japan was closed to the outside world.
I don't doubt that the Bankers played a big part in all the machinations of the Meiji era, but its also true that history has other driving forces, including good ones (God) and so many developments cannot be rightfully viewed in a purely simplistic manner.
Much as I love Japan, there needs to be a recognition that the Tokugawa shogunate was extremely brutal and savage as much as it was beautiful and unique. It needed to change. It couldn't survive in a world where Japan was not a hermit nation (much like North Korea is now).
When Japan annexed Korea to be part of their empire, the Koreans were treated as brutally and abused as much as any nation of people can be.
This is a myth. Japan had outside contact from the time of the Spanish occupation of Mexico. They sent samurai to different parts of the world including Germany, Spain, and Mexico when the Aztec where still alive under Spanish occupation.
No, it is not a myth. The Tokugawa Bakufu/Shogunate brought in the period of Sakoku/isolation. Jesuits were using religion to take control over the country and Tokugawa saw what was happening and not only kicked out the foreigners, but massacred Japanese Christians. Only the Dutch were allowed to trade and had access to Nagasaki. I've walked those streets and enjoyed the Dutch architecture myself. The Dutch were Protestant and were not up to the shenanigans that the Catholics/Jesuits were. (Interestingly enough, that same group really screwed their chance of China becoming a Christian nation too, when the Vatican tried to micromanage proselytization of China long-distance.) But outside of Nagasaki, the rest of the country was closed to the rest of the world.
Japanese elementary children know who Commodore Perry was, but he's not well-known at all in the USA. He was the emissary sent to Japan to open the country at gunpoint, which ushered in the Meiji Era. Then the banksters got involved, with Jacob Schiff manipulating Japan to go to war with Russia to weaken it for the communists to take over. I'm sure they were egging Japan on to become imperialist with the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere (which was rather one-sided as far as "co-prosperity" goes).
Yes, there were samurai emissaries who went as far as the Vatican during the Sengoku Period. Nobunaga was a Christian himself, and he was the one who unified Japan. That all ended during the period of isolation.
Not to sound like a fag, but those old black and white pictures of Samurai at different worlds wonders, looking like stereotypical Japanese tourists, except with swords and battle gear, are the cutest thing I've ever seen grown men do. Barbarism is necessary, in different times, but I think they struck a good balance (as a solution for their own problems, by their own people) between force and diplomacy. They should be allowed to be a hermit nation if they want to.
Also it seems the British intelligence service might have been the hand moving all this together.
Astute observation. I have seen 3 things recently, that are recently uncovered research. A photo showing the Meiji Samurai with a British guy who turned out to be Intel guy. So the "Meiji Restoration" that overthrow Tokugawa Shogunate seems to be a Intel color revolution.
Second, looks like they have uncovered the hidden puppet master behind the Japanese Admiral who turned 180 degrees and suddenly ordered Pearl Harbour attack and then delayed declaration of war.
Third, (this is not new) the whole Mongolia conquest had to do with Opium, and the Japanese PM (Nishi something) who made American bases permanent (during the Anpo days), made his millions in opium trade in Mongolia and was run by a CIA agent.
Unfortunately, 4chan is blocked at work and that Archive link doesn't work for me. I'll have to chime in more when I get home, but for now I've replied to one fren's error.
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Very interesting. The text reads almost like a Japanese national that learned English there.. sounds very similar. Also it seems the British intelligence service might have been the hand moving all this together. Personally I love and admire the Japanese, despite not having any ancestral ties to them. I just love their geographical wonders and culture. RIP Shinzo Abe ❤️
I'll look at this a bit more closely tomorrow; late night shift here now.
But a few points worth remembering: Japan was opened up not by the British but by the US, when the US sent a fleet of ships uninvited into Tokyo bay and essentially told the Japanese, you MUST trade with us or we'll blow you to smithereens. Up until this time, Japan only allowed very limited trade with the Netherlands at two specific ports; for all other intents and purposes, Japan was closed to the outside world.
I don't doubt that the Bankers played a big part in all the machinations of the Meiji era, but its also true that history has other driving forces, including good ones (God) and so many developments cannot be rightfully viewed in a purely simplistic manner.
Much as I love Japan, there needs to be a recognition that the Tokugawa shogunate was extremely brutal and savage as much as it was beautiful and unique. It needed to change. It couldn't survive in a world where Japan was not a hermit nation (much like North Korea is now).
When Japan annexed Korea to be part of their empire, the Koreans were treated as brutally and abused as much as any nation of people can be.
This is a myth. Japan had outside contact from the time of the Spanish occupation of Mexico. They sent samurai to different parts of the world including Germany, Spain, and Mexico when the Aztec where still alive under Spanish occupation.
Japanfag has entered the chat!
No, it is not a myth. The Tokugawa Bakufu/Shogunate brought in the period of Sakoku/isolation. Jesuits were using religion to take control over the country and Tokugawa saw what was happening and not only kicked out the foreigners, but massacred Japanese Christians. Only the Dutch were allowed to trade and had access to Nagasaki. I've walked those streets and enjoyed the Dutch architecture myself. The Dutch were Protestant and were not up to the shenanigans that the Catholics/Jesuits were. (Interestingly enough, that same group really screwed their chance of China becoming a Christian nation too, when the Vatican tried to micromanage proselytization of China long-distance.) But outside of Nagasaki, the rest of the country was closed to the rest of the world.
Japanese elementary children know who Commodore Perry was, but he's not well-known at all in the USA. He was the emissary sent to Japan to open the country at gunpoint, which ushered in the Meiji Era. Then the banksters got involved, with Jacob Schiff manipulating Japan to go to war with Russia to weaken it for the communists to take over. I'm sure they were egging Japan on to become imperialist with the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere (which was rather one-sided as far as "co-prosperity" goes).
Yes, there were samurai emissaries who went as far as the Vatican during the Sengoku Period. Nobunaga was a Christian himself, and he was the one who unified Japan. That all ended during the period of isolation.
Not to sound like a fag, but those old black and white pictures of Samurai at different worlds wonders, looking like stereotypical Japanese tourists, except with swords and battle gear, are the cutest thing I've ever seen grown men do. Barbarism is necessary, in different times, but I think they struck a good balance (as a solution for their own problems, by their own people) between force and diplomacy. They should be allowed to be a hermit nation if they want to.
Astute observation. I have seen 3 things recently, that are recently uncovered research. A photo showing the Meiji Samurai with a British guy who turned out to be Intel guy. So the "Meiji Restoration" that overthrow Tokugawa Shogunate seems to be a Intel color revolution.
Second, looks like they have uncovered the hidden puppet master behind the Japanese Admiral who turned 180 degrees and suddenly ordered Pearl Harbour attack and then delayed declaration of war.
Third, (this is not new) the whole Mongolia conquest had to do with Opium, and the Japanese PM (Nishi something) who made American bases permanent (during the Anpo days), made his millions in opium trade in Mongolia and was run by a CIA agent.
u/stevethefish76 can you add any insight to this discussion?
Unfortunately, 4chan is blocked at work and that Archive link doesn't work for me. I'll have to chime in more when I get home, but for now I've replied to one fren's error.