that is called hearsay. you essentially KNOW nothing
and even if it were your first hand experience, how could you possibly know they weren't missiles? we will all be better for it imho when we realize how little we KNOW if we truly can know anything at all
But it's not hearsay. It's first hand direct testimony from a family member and one of my closest friends. Both of whom know what a plane looks in one case and sounds like in another. And I heard in September 2001
There are tons of people in the NY NJ areas who saw this not on TV, but live.
Where I-278 heads to the Brooklyn Battery tunnel hundreds of cars in bumper to bumper traffic had an elevated clear shot of both towels.
Where I lived you could walk to the rivers edge, like I did, and see the towers because I was already outside going to vote when I heard the news. So I didn't hear this from media. I learned it from from a crowd in the park.
If I remember high school physics correctly, I don't think you can make a direct comparison without knowing the forces at work.
For example, you can't say these two people colliding this the same as these other two people colliding if in the first case it's my four year old bumps into me while walking and the second case is an NFL linebacker at top speed. I hope I'm only in one of those situations.
So you have to ask how big and how fast. It says video unavailable what kind of plane was it?
Also the Empire State Building is covered in stone. The facade is limestone and granite.
According to official fact sheets, the facade uses 200,000 cubic feet (5,700 m3) of limestone and granite, ten million bricks, and 730 short tons (650 long tons) of aluminum and stainless steel.
So the construction would play a part too.
I think you would need to do a lot math to an apples to apples comparison. I suck at math, so not me.
Further, your comparison of a collision with a line backer or a 4yo is faulty. A more apt comparison would be a fly against a line backer or a fly against a 4yo. It’s really the same.
My whole point is to make an apples to apples comparison you need to know two things.
A. the force involved (Mass x speed of the moving thing)
B. Are the structures comparable. (how the non moving thing responds)
It’s really the same.
It's not the same, because it your example, a fly, you are have an incredibly small force.
EDIT I see you didn't make the point about the bombs. JonathanE did.
You did not watch the video, you do not know what plane hit the building (b25 bomber) but tell me my comparison is faulty,
A B25 bomber does not equal there were bombs on that plane. Why would a B25 have live bombs on it flying over NYC?
On Saturday, July 28, 1945, Lieutenant Colonel William Franklin Smith Jr., of Watertown, Massachusetts, was piloting a B-25 Mitchell bomber **on a routine personnel transport mission **from Bedford Army Air Field in Massachusetts to Newark Metropolitan Airport in New Jersey.
It's pretty irrelevant since the twin towers weren't hit by planes, they were bombs.
The Twin Towers were absolutely hit by planes.
I know two folks who were in downtown Manhattan at the time of impact.
that is called hearsay. you essentially KNOW nothing
and even if it were your first hand experience, how could you possibly know they weren't missiles? we will all be better for it imho when we realize how little we KNOW if we truly can know anything at all
Name checks out !
(and a very spiffy example of it !)
You can pretend whatever you want.
But it's not hearsay. It's first hand direct testimony from a family member and one of my closest friends. Both of whom know what a plane looks in one case and sounds like in another. And I heard in September 2001
There are tons of people in the NY NJ areas who saw this not on TV, but live.
Where I-278 heads to the Brooklyn Battery tunnel hundreds of cars in bumper to bumper traffic had an elevated clear shot of both towels.
Where I lived you could walk to the rivers edge, like I did, and see the towers because I was already outside going to vote when I heard the news. So I didn't hear this from media. I learned it from from a crowd in the park.
Building 1. Plane 0.
28 years before opening of WTC and another 28 before leveling WTC down.
Expect the WTC "pancake" theorists to appear from the woodwork.
Given the penchant of the DS for predictive programming, along with their great patience, one has to wonder if this was a test run. 🙄
without a doubt. Did you know the pentagon foundation stone was laid on 9/11, in 1941.
If I remember high school physics correctly, I don't think you can make a direct comparison without knowing the forces at work.
For example, you can't say these two people colliding this the same as these other two people colliding if in the first case it's my four year old bumps into me while walking and the second case is an NFL linebacker at top speed. I hope I'm only in one of those situations.
So you have to ask how big and how fast. It says video unavailable what kind of plane was it?
Also the Empire State Building is covered in stone. The facade is limestone and granite.
https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/08/2f/89/f6/empire-state-building.jpg
According to official fact sheets, the facade uses 200,000 cubic feet (5,700 m3) of limestone and granite, ten million bricks, and 730 short tons (650 long tons) of aluminum and stainless steel.
So the construction would play a part too.
I think you would need to do a lot math to an apples to apples comparison. I suck at math, so not me.
You're right, we shouldn't be comparing a 200mph plane impact with high explosive charges.
Kek i see what you did there.
High explosive charges?
???
My whole point is to make an apples to apples comparison you need to know two things.
A. the force involved (Mass x speed of the moving thing) B. Are the structures comparable. (how the non moving thing responds)
It's not the same, because it your example, a fly, you are have an incredibly small force.
EDIT I see you didn't make the point about the bombs. JonathanE did.
A B25 bomber does not equal there were bombs on that plane. Why would a B25 have live bombs on it flying over NYC?
Looking it up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1945_Empire_State_Building_B-25_crash
there's no mention it did have bombs.
You might have seen this before I added a comment
EDIT I see you didn't make the point about the bombs. JonathanE did.
I just saw the part about a bomber in my inbox and thought he was replying to me.
The "really happens" kind gives it away though doesn't it. That does beg the comparison.
And that's what Happens when that plane hits that skyscraper. ..a unique situation.