This is looking at the effect but there's no real evidence of the source. This is at best circumstantial for further investigation. It is not the smoking gun though. Electrical wiring is typically run along the center beam for the light and fan fixtures. This is evidenced in the photo. A light or fan can be seen hanging from the center in one of the photos. You can see an electrical wire hanging down and a fan/light fixture in the back .Did they overheat? If so, what caused it? Read my posting above
I think this is weak evidence actually. We saw the solid evidence pretty quickly and their reactions filled in a lot of the blanks. This very well may have been an electrical fire. I just know what both events were and I won't pretend otherwise.
"Solid Evidence" requires a smoking gun. I agree with you with the very strange conflagration and the incinerated ruins of all those structures. Almost all of the structures were turned to ashes. Regarding how or what caused it is unknown.
Plausible theories have been put forth. However, without hard evidence (i.e.smoking gun), it is indirect evidence that does not, on its face, prove a fact in issue but gives rise to a logical inference that the fact exists. It is useful as long as it can be tied to hard evidence (smoking gun). However, the hard evidence is what is lacking. This what we are left with in Lahaina, Paradise Hills in CA and other places. We need the 'smoking gun 'and the criminal suspects, who are responsible. The 'smoking gun' would be the equipment used to start all those fires. I theorized that these fires was result of high energy radiated microwave energy using the existing cell towers. Now this is only a theory. A strong enough transmission would fry the wiring in structures like this. And would start fires. The next question is, Where would such energy come from? I'm proposing the cell towers were being used. We know cell phones were disabled during this time. There also happens to be the 2nd largest DEW base on Maui. Could such intense radiated microwave energy be transmitted from those cell towers? I'm not the only one that has put forth this theory. It is only a theory though.
We do know that many people must have been involved in carrying this out. There was also compartmentalization of the operation. This is defined as a conspiracy. As it turns out in a conspiracy such as this,... and yes, this is legally defined as a conspiracy, the cover-up often becomes the bigger crime. In Lahaina, this is what we are seeing. It is a massive cover-up. Often, attacking the cover-up is the best course to take for determining all those people involved in the conspiracy and getting at the truth to how these fires burned as they did.
Understand there are things called breakers. When they are tripped, there is no more electrical current in the wires. Wires just don’t get hot for no reason. They have to be a major power surge and once again, the circuit breakers will trip. I lived in a house once that had glass fuses. Works the same. Wires are made of very little burn able materials. Nothing like what could go through wood a ceiling like this. I’ve been building houses and around electrical for a few decades. I’ve never seen any like this. When an electric fire happens, it catches everything else on fire if conditions are just right. Not the wire itself. And never in a straight line. It will be charred and black, but wire doesn’t burn. A little plastic and paper for insulation. That’s all it’s made of. Think of running a fuse through a pile of leaves. A black line sure, a bit charred grass. Nothing to get excited about. But the leaf pile will be torched. In this case it burned through wood in a straight line but nothing else. Very odd.
House fires do happen from poor electrical situations. Usually in older construction where typical codes weren’t even implemented yet. Like 50-60 yr old and older buildings. Usually in a electrical house fire the insulation catches fire and then so on and so forth. This video is just weird.
Also churches in many states kinda get a pass on many inspections. But not electrical. Not that I’ve ever seen or heard of.
A 12 or 14 gauge wire would need to be struck by lightning to do this. Whatever happened there happened so fast that the rest of the structure didn't have time to heat up and keep the fire burning. Also, a 200 amp service would burn up before cooking the 12 or 14 gage wires that hot that fast. There most likely is not a transformer planted in that building that could convert the energy to make it happen either.
At this point it's either a DEW or the congregation got a little to into singing Days of Elijah.
This is NOT evidence of DEW or anything similar. The false beams in that ceiling show a seam right down the middle. The false beam burned away leaving what looks like a laser trail. The reason the adjoining wood did not burn could be that it is sealed with poly and the beams were not. Also, the beams appear to be rough-cut lumber which would burn easier than the other wood.
Also, if you look at the top-down view of the exterior, there is no burn line.
There is evidence of a false beam on the other side of the ceiling, so this is a very plausible explanation. I'm not sure why people are getting shit on for trying to find a logical answer and doing research than just believing the "The is evidence". I do believe there was a DEW used, but I don't think this is proof.
Not to mention that a satellite with a 90 minute interval would take less than a quarter of a second to travel a mile across land. Not a lot of focus time.
What fascinates me about the remains in all the situations that people will suspect an energy weapon is the extreme rate of combustion. Combustion of material that usually would not burn unless under extreme heat are typically turned to powder or a cooled molten blob. This is consistently found next to combustible material that is only lightly flash burned (like getting some exposed skin tanned from welding with that skin unshielded). Whatever happened was very quickly done, extremely hot, and specific. This specific ceiling looks like the wires got an incredible amount of energy focused on them for just a moment. Much more energy than the utility service to the building could sustain providing. It was indeed lighting or something very much like it.
Thank you. Yes, I'm very familiar with these "things called breakers". My 200 Amp service allows me to add 20 Amp wiring in the house where I need it.
You are absolutely correct in the electrical realm. However, my theory is based on intense microwave energy propagation coming from an external source (cell towers) that would cause the electrical wiring in homes to heat up melting the insulation and starting the fires. Think of a microwave with aluminum foil in it. Now, this is only a theory, but a strong enough transmission of microwave energy would fry the wiring in structures like this and start fires. The next question is, Where would such energy come from? I'm proposing the cell towers were being used. We know cell phones were disabled during this time. There also happens to be the 2nd largest DEW base on Maui. Could such intense radiated microwave energy be transmitted from Lahaina's cell towers? I'm not the only one that has put forth this theory. It is only a theory though. The "smoking gun" could be in plain sight though. I recall a Jesse Ventura show that talked about a similar thing using cell phone towers.
Wasn’t trying to be a smartie pants about the breakers. Was just tying to break it down simply. You seem to know your stuff. 👍
But yea I do believe foul play was at hand in Maui. I believe they were targeted. Maybe not every building as the fire spread. But you never know. Wiring, fires and the like can do crazy stuff.
This is looking at the effect but there's no real evidence of the source. This is at best circumstantial for further investigation. It is not the smoking gun though. Electrical wiring is typically run along the center beam for the light and fan fixtures. This is evidenced in the photo. A light or fan can be seen hanging from the center in one of the photos. You can see an electrical wire hanging down and a fan/light fixture in the back .Did they overheat? If so, what caused it? Read my posting above
I think this is weak evidence actually. We saw the solid evidence pretty quickly and their reactions filled in a lot of the blanks. This very well may have been an electrical fire. I just know what both events were and I won't pretend otherwise.
"Solid Evidence" requires a smoking gun. I agree with you with the very strange conflagration and the incinerated ruins of all those structures. Almost all of the structures were turned to ashes. Regarding how or what caused it is unknown.
Plausible theories have been put forth. However, without hard evidence (i.e.smoking gun), it is indirect evidence that does not, on its face, prove a fact in issue but gives rise to a logical inference that the fact exists. It is useful as long as it can be tied to hard evidence (smoking gun). However, the hard evidence is what is lacking. This what we are left with in Lahaina, Paradise Hills in CA and other places. We need the 'smoking gun 'and the criminal suspects, who are responsible. The 'smoking gun' would be the equipment used to start all those fires. I theorized that these fires was result of high energy radiated microwave energy using the existing cell towers. Now this is only a theory. A strong enough transmission would fry the wiring in structures like this. And would start fires. The next question is, Where would such energy come from? I'm proposing the cell towers were being used. We know cell phones were disabled during this time. There also happens to be the 2nd largest DEW base on Maui. Could such intense radiated microwave energy be transmitted from those cell towers? I'm not the only one that has put forth this theory. It is only a theory though.
We do know that many people must have been involved in carrying this out. There was also compartmentalization of the operation. This is defined as a conspiracy. As it turns out in a conspiracy such as this,... and yes, this is legally defined as a conspiracy, the cover-up often becomes the bigger crime. In Lahaina, this is what we are seeing. It is a massive cover-up. Often, attacking the cover-up is the best course to take for determining all those people involved in the conspiracy and getting at the truth to how these fires burned as they did.
Understand there are things called breakers. When they are tripped, there is no more electrical current in the wires. Wires just don’t get hot for no reason. They have to be a major power surge and once again, the circuit breakers will trip. I lived in a house once that had glass fuses. Works the same. Wires are made of very little burn able materials. Nothing like what could go through wood a ceiling like this. I’ve been building houses and around electrical for a few decades. I’ve never seen any like this. When an electric fire happens, it catches everything else on fire if conditions are just right. Not the wire itself. And never in a straight line. It will be charred and black, but wire doesn’t burn. A little plastic and paper for insulation. That’s all it’s made of. Think of running a fuse through a pile of leaves. A black line sure, a bit charred grass. Nothing to get excited about. But the leaf pile will be torched. In this case it burned through wood in a straight line but nothing else. Very odd. House fires do happen from poor electrical situations. Usually in older construction where typical codes weren’t even implemented yet. Like 50-60 yr old and older buildings. Usually in a electrical house fire the insulation catches fire and then so on and so forth. This video is just weird. Also churches in many states kinda get a pass on many inspections. But not electrical. Not that I’ve ever seen or heard of.
A 12 or 14 gauge wire would need to be struck by lightning to do this. Whatever happened there happened so fast that the rest of the structure didn't have time to heat up and keep the fire burning. Also, a 200 amp service would burn up before cooking the 12 or 14 gage wires that hot that fast. There most likely is not a transformer planted in that building that could convert the energy to make it happen either.
At this point it's either a DEW or the congregation got a little to into singing Days of Elijah.
This is NOT evidence of DEW or anything similar. The false beams in that ceiling show a seam right down the middle. The false beam burned away leaving what looks like a laser trail. The reason the adjoining wood did not burn could be that it is sealed with poly and the beams were not. Also, the beams appear to be rough-cut lumber which would burn easier than the other wood.
Also, if you look at the top-down view of the exterior, there is no burn line.
There is evidence of a false beam on the other side of the ceiling, so this is a very plausible explanation. I'm not sure why people are getting shit on for trying to find a logical answer and doing research than just believing the "The is evidence". I do believe there was a DEW used, but I don't think this is proof.
Not to mention that a satellite with a 90 minute interval would take less than a quarter of a second to travel a mile across land. Not a lot of focus time.
They had like a hurricane at the time. That would bring lightning. Large fires can also cause lightning.
What fascinates me about the remains in all the situations that people will suspect an energy weapon is the extreme rate of combustion. Combustion of material that usually would not burn unless under extreme heat are typically turned to powder or a cooled molten blob. This is consistently found next to combustible material that is only lightly flash burned (like getting some exposed skin tanned from welding with that skin unshielded). Whatever happened was very quickly done, extremely hot, and specific. This specific ceiling looks like the wires got an incredible amount of energy focused on them for just a moment. Much more energy than the utility service to the building could sustain providing. It was indeed lighting or something very much like it.
Thank you. Yes, I'm very familiar with these "things called breakers". My 200 Amp service allows me to add 20 Amp wiring in the house where I need it.
You are absolutely correct in the electrical realm. However, my theory is based on intense microwave energy propagation coming from an external source (cell towers) that would cause the electrical wiring in homes to heat up melting the insulation and starting the fires. Think of a microwave with aluminum foil in it. Now, this is only a theory, but a strong enough transmission of microwave energy would fry the wiring in structures like this and start fires. The next question is, Where would such energy come from? I'm proposing the cell towers were being used. We know cell phones were disabled during this time. There also happens to be the 2nd largest DEW base on Maui. Could such intense radiated microwave energy be transmitted from Lahaina's cell towers? I'm not the only one that has put forth this theory. It is only a theory though. The "smoking gun" could be in plain sight though. I recall a Jesse Ventura show that talked about a similar thing using cell phone towers.
Wasn’t trying to be a smartie pants about the breakers. Was just tying to break it down simply. You seem to know your stuff. 👍
But yea I do believe foul play was at hand in Maui. I believe they were targeted. Maybe not every building as the fire spread. But you never know. Wiring, fires and the like can do crazy stuff.