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My pastor’s VERY powerful sermon on What In The World is going on in Israel. His sermon starts at about 33 minutes in. (www.youtube.com)
posted 2 years ago by TrumpLovinChildOfGod 2 years ago by TrumpLovinChildOfGod +20 / -0
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– MSU85 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Balfour Declaration Nation State of Israel is not the Israel of the Bible.

This guy is FOS. Whether knowingly or unknowingly he's pushing a false propaganda narrative...

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

He brings the biblical proof. You do not. You’ll need to do better than that to convince me, because I happen to agree with him.

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– MSU85 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Then you're as much in error and delusion as he is... Best wishes with that.

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Everybody wants to throw shade without actually having listened to the message. I cannot believe how many people on this board do not believe in the accuracy of the Bible, and yet believe the Q plan. In my opinion, “It’s going to be Biblical” means just that. What on earth do those that think the Bible has been perverted think it actually means? I’m super confused.

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– MSU85 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Again.

Balfour Declaration Israel is not the Israel of the Bible.

The accuracy of the Bible is that there are twelve tribes of Israel. Judea was one tribe. They were called Judeans (which morphed into the term "Jews").

The so-called "Jews" perching in the old lands of Judea (which they call the Nation State of Israel) are of Khazarian bloodline. They are not of the Judean bloodline.

This is for starters.

In the end times, GOD will gather the scattered twelve tribes and bring them to the holy land. That HAS NOT happened. So, this talk of "end times" is completely off base....

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– SovereignSon 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Dispensationalism is behind the zionism in Christianity.

Your pastor is a dispensationalist.

+1 from me BTW

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Is that another way of saying that he preaches the Bible from start to finish? Yes. He does. I love him for it.

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– SovereignSon 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Most Christians don't know they are dispensationalists.

I didn't.

Just realized it a little while ago.

I was raised in a dispensationalist church since 1975

I love the body of Christ, but I won't let a doctrine define my relationship with Jesus Christ.

I'm calling it like I see it, Christianity is devided by sectarian doctrine. One particular doctrine leads to Zionism, it is dispensationalism.

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– LateToTheShow 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Dispensationalism is a theological framework that divides human history into different periods or "dispensations," each characterized by distinct divine revelations and purposes.

Zionism is a political and cultural movement advocating for the establishment and support of a Jewish homeland in the historic land of Israel, often associated with the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948. In a religious context, Christian Zionism aligns with the political ideology of supporting the return of Jews to the land of Israel as part of biblical prophecy.

Dispensationalism, with its focus on biblical prophecy and future events, has influenced some strands of Christian Zionism. Some dispensationalists interpret biblical prophecies, especially those concerning the return of Jews to Israel, as having a role in the end times.

It's important to note that not all dispensationalists support or emphasize political Zionism, and not all Christian Zionists adhere to dispensational theology.

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– SovereignSon 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you Late To The Show.

Excellent.

Review and report if you have time:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/oARmPAzoefBl/

I appreciate your critique.

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Again, biblical. Israel wasn’t established in 1948, it was established in the Abrahamic Covenant in Genesis 15. By God. In an unconditional covenant.

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– MAG768720 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Right.

But the covenant was with Abraham, then Isaac, then Jacob/Israel and his Israelite descendents. It was NOT with jews.

The thing in 1948 was for jews, not Israelites.

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Weren’t the Israelites Jewish?

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– MAG768720 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

No.

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Say more, please.

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– MAG768720 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This topic will blow your mind, and probably change your life (hopefully, for the better).

For hundreds of years, the jews have infiltrated Christianity and convinced modern day Christians that the jews were the Israelites. However, reading the original texts of the Bible (or very old copies of the originals), with an understanding of Hebrew and Greek, and an understanding of why much of the modern English Bible might have been mistranslated, along with non-bibilical sources in history and archeology, we arrive at a very different understanding of the Bible. And for most of us, this new perspective is absolutely amazing.

It is what turned me from atheist to Christian.

If I were to go into depth on this topic, it would probably take me all day to Q&A it all. But I have to take off soon.

So, I will start with a re-post of what I wrote in this thread, in order to provide some context first:

https://greatawakening.win/p/17rlrOkXOr/fake-pope--vatican-says-trans-ca/c/


Now, imagine that you were a monk living 1,000 years ago.

The Roman Catholic Church WAS Christianity at the time. It was not merely one of the denominations, and it was not something that only a few people followed.

It had MASSIVE control over the people of the day.

And the Roman Catholic Church had its own doctrines, whether they were in agreement or in conflict with the Bible.

If the doctrines were in conflict with the Bible, then too bad for the Bible, because the pope, cardinals, bishops, etc. had already declared that THEY were the authority of what the Bible is.

So ... you are a monk, and your task is to translate an early Hebrew text of one of the books of the Bible into Latin.

As you read through, you discover -- to your horror -- that the Hebrew you are reading is in direct opposition to the Roman Catholic Church doctrine!

IOW, the doctrine is WRONG.

But if you SAY that or WRITE that, then you are a heretic. The penalty for heresy was death. And not just any death. You would be burned alive at he stake for heresy.

So ... what do you do?

It should not be too difficult to accept that many of those early translations were falsified to appease the church doctrine.

This is the main reason why Christianity has gone off the rails with its false idol worship of jews, who were never the chosen ones.

Furthermore, this false idol worship is why people like Charlie say what they do, and why there is American money going to the jews in Palestine, which only causes more problems, ultimately.

This is what Martin Luther discovered in the 1500's, which lead to the protest, the Protestant Reformation, and a split away from the Catholics.

Yet today, the Catholic Church, in all its false doctrines, is still the largest denomination in the world -- due mostly to Latin America.


Next, it is important to understand that what we are taught is Christianity today is not fully what was taught even a couple hundred years ago or so. The American Founding Fathers had a more accurate understanding, and when you grasp their perspective, many of the things they said and did make much more sense.

In fact, all of history, including what is happening TODAY, makes way more sense when looked at from this perspective.

So, the shortcut is to watch a couple of videos, first about the jews, and then about the Israelites, both from a pastor who lived many years ago.

He may not have gotten everything 100% accurate, but he was pretty close, and did a great job of explaining this more correct understanding of what the Bible says.

Who were (and are) the jews:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/eu8RJblsVko8/

Who were (and still ARE) the Israelites:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/p0MQELwiK1Mu/

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... continue reading thread?
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– SovereignSon 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Zionists believe the current state of Israel is the Israel of Bible prophecy.

Dispensationalists believe that prophecy about Israel is not fulfilled in Jesus Christ. They believe that Israel's covenant is along side the New Testament church, they separate Isreal from the New Testament.

The big thing that Dispensationalism does is concentrates on the physical kingdom and denies the spiritual kingdom.

Dispensationalists make the whole book of Revelation physical reality when the whole book is spiritual reality.

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It doesn’t sound like you listened to the sermon prior to critiquing. If you’d like to listen to the sermon and point out specific errors, we can talk about those.

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– SovereignSon 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks, I did listen to bits.

He got political, put down an anti-zionist and that is how I formed my opinion.

The theological discussion is not a smear on your pastor, I apologize if I came across that way.

I'm going to work in my lead in on this topic, I think it is very important to the body of Jesus Christ.

I'm not critiquing the sermon, I'm critiquing the underlying doctrine.

We're still friends

:)

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Good - we need friends

;-)

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– SovereignSon 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

:)

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– MAG768720 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

^ Looks like the output of an AI bot.

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– LateToTheShow 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I've been called worse

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– MAG768720 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

LOL

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– SovereignSon 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

An AI bot would say.....

Just joking, I appreciate your knowledge on the topic even if you're an AI bot.

:)

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– MSU85 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's a lot of words without a point.

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– LateToTheShow 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thank you for adding so much to the conversation.

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– MSU85 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

There was no point.

That wasn't clear the first time?

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– UpwardBound 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks for sharing this excellent message!!

I find it very troubling that anti-Semitism is spreading like wildfire throughout Christian churches. My believing sister has been following Baldwin and it's almost cultish how she clings to everything he says, without question.

Israel is central to the whole Bible. Yes, today Israel is the enemy of God. Yes, they deny Christ. Yes, many of the people in Israel are Ashkenazi's and not even real Jews. But the Scripture is very clear that God has a plan for a group of people that comprise something called Israel. Read Romans 9-11.

I have listened to Baldwin, but have never succeeded with getting through one of his sermons. He always seems more interested with push some kind of agenda, than teaching the scriptures.

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I am so glad you listened to and enjoyed it! I thought it was excellent, and it will cost him some members of his congregation, but the time for tickling ears is over, and I love that he takes his role as shepherd so seriously 🙏❤️🙏

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– PeaceAndLovePatriot 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

33 minutes in?

Proof he is one of [them]

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Who, exactly, is [them]?

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– TrappedInBlueState 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

We must be vigilant to not be deceived by imposters though.

Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which call themselves Jews, and are not, but do lie: behold, I say, I will make them that they shall come and worship before thy feet, and shall know that I have loved thee.

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