Austria? I thought Krampus was just a Dutch tradition, I don't think he is seen as pure evil there, just one of Santa's little helpers to get the kids to behave.
Krampus is not a Dutch tradition. It is from Bavaria, Austria and parts of Eastern Europe like Chzechia, Slowakia and Hungary. Note that the American "Santa Clause" is derived from "Sinterklaas", which originally was a catholic bishop from Turkey (Mira), who is said to have freed the enslaved. The Dutch tradition has mutated to where Sinterklaas comes from Spain (!) and his helpers are "Mores" (the Islamic conquerors of Spain). Americans view these helpers as "black slaves", but that just shows how much American culture views everything through the lens of race.
The Krampus tradition stems from the same root of St. Nicholas, but evolved differently. The role of Krampus and zwarte piet ("black pete") is not the same. The only thing they have in common is that they are responsible for the punishment of children who did not behave. In the Dutch tradition, zwarte piet takes the really bad children in a burlap sack back to Spain or the less bad children get a a few hits of a tied bunch of small branches ("roede"). Krampus is a more visual performance, meant to scare children.
Krampus itself is a depiction of the devil or evil in general. It is not worshipped. It's aim is to scare children and keep them in line.
Also, note, this tradition has mixed with the "Perchten" tradition; Traditionally, people would dress up as either beautiful characters or ugly monsters, both would "drive out" the old year and the bad spirits of winter in between christmas and new years. It is a tradition that is at least 1500 years old, possibly older.
I don't think that Krampus and zwarte piet can be compared beyond santa. Netherlands has a historical bond with Spain that the mountains in Bavaria don't have. On top of that there's some evidence that the Krampus traditions existed pre Christianity, or at least before the Romans imposed Christianity.
The Krampus tradition is older than Christianity, people just never dropped it. The krampus came to drag bad behaving kids off. It was the pre- jesus version of 'bad people go to hell'.
Even though it is pagan, at least it has a message that makes sense. I'd much rather have that than the drag queen story hours in the catholic schools.
I’m just curious to these types of “celebrations”. This one seems similar to the one in Mexico, but with happy flowers and colors, of the risen dead. Or what ever. And now I see a similarity with our “Gay Pride” parades. To me, it is plain and simple evil on display. No matter how the “organizers” promote it.
KRAMPUS was a movie I saw long ago.Its about a normal family who is being attacked by all kinds of demons. It shows them on christmas morning where the boy comes down stairs and wonders if that entire christmas eve horrors were his imagination. It shows them panning out on the family in some dark massive cave where they are in a snow globe along with every other decent family in the world. It was actually a very scary movie.
Once hung out with a lot of Germans and Austrians.
I never got the Krampus thing. Seemed to me like terrorizing children into compliance wasn't the best parenting choice, but what do I know? Nothing says Christmastime like a little bit of horror, right?
And there's always someone with a psychotic streak who takes it too far after too much beer/schnapps.
Personally, being of Polish descent, it seems like there's some dark shit buried in the genetics of slavic and german people. Bubbles out in things like Krampus. Hell, might even be Kazarian-related or something.
Illuminati and the source of these past world wars was Germany. Nazi. Operation paperclip setting up the deep state. Now Klaus of WEF. It’s always Germany.
Let's not forget that Caganer character who takes a crap. In the manger scene you have Joseph and Mary and baby Jesus, and in the corner behind a cow there's this Caganer asshole taking a crap.
I am sorry, but your statements show a severe ignorance on the point of this tradition.
The aim of it is not to become the devil. It is the contrary. Evil (and the bad spirits of winter, i.e. the cold, hunger) is chased off by dressing up as monsters or angelic beings (less common nowadays). Children are shown the "devil" to keep them behaving well.
They outed krampus on American housewife a couple years ago on their Christmas episode. Little Anna Kat, their "special" daughter,did some research on krampus and shared it with the family and krampus was the theme of that episode.
Krampus is to take the bad children away. tradition teaches children to fight the evil that can kidnap them at night.
I'll allow it.
Austria? I thought Krampus was just a Dutch tradition, I don't think he is seen as pure evil there, just one of Santa's little helpers to get the kids to behave.
Krampus is not a Dutch tradition. It is from Bavaria, Austria and parts of Eastern Europe like Chzechia, Slowakia and Hungary. Note that the American "Santa Clause" is derived from "Sinterklaas", which originally was a catholic bishop from Turkey (Mira), who is said to have freed the enslaved. The Dutch tradition has mutated to where Sinterklaas comes from Spain (!) and his helpers are "Mores" (the Islamic conquerors of Spain). Americans view these helpers as "black slaves", but that just shows how much American culture views everything through the lens of race.
The Krampus tradition stems from the same root of St. Nicholas, but evolved differently. The role of Krampus and zwarte piet ("black pete") is not the same. The only thing they have in common is that they are responsible for the punishment of children who did not behave. In the Dutch tradition, zwarte piet takes the really bad children in a burlap sack back to Spain or the less bad children get a a few hits of a tied bunch of small branches ("roede"). Krampus is a more visual performance, meant to scare children.
Krampus itself is a depiction of the devil or evil in general. It is not worshipped. It's aim is to scare children and keep them in line.
Also, note, this tradition has mixed with the "Perchten" tradition; Traditionally, people would dress up as either beautiful characters or ugly monsters, both would "drive out" the old year and the bad spirits of winter in between christmas and new years. It is a tradition that is at least 1500 years old, possibly older.
I don't think that Krampus and zwarte piet can be compared beyond santa. Netherlands has a historical bond with Spain that the mountains in Bavaria don't have. On top of that there's some evidence that the Krampus traditions existed pre Christianity, or at least before the Romans imposed Christianity.
Please put on your full armory of God if you research this event. I just couldn’t do it anymore. Not tonight.
The Krampus tradition is older than Christianity, people just never dropped it. The krampus came to drag bad behaving kids off. It was the pre- jesus version of 'bad people go to hell'. Even though it is pagan, at least it has a message that makes sense. I'd much rather have that than the drag queen story hours in the catholic schools.
I’m just curious to these types of “celebrations”. This one seems similar to the one in Mexico, but with happy flowers and colors, of the risen dead. Or what ever. And now I see a similarity with our “Gay Pride” parades. To me, it is plain and simple evil on display. No matter how the “organizers” promote it.
It’s like those Asians shops thst feed fruit to statues , they put the fruit out .. all of this is so sick .
KRAMPUS was a movie I saw long ago.Its about a normal family who is being attacked by all kinds of demons. It shows them on christmas morning where the boy comes down stairs and wonders if that entire christmas eve horrors were his imagination. It shows them panning out on the family in some dark massive cave where they are in a snow globe along with every other decent family in the world. It was actually a very scary movie.
When will people realize they've all been duped in all of these so-called "holydays" are all just Satanist holidays?
normalizing grotesqueness because satan is gross.
Once hung out with a lot of Germans and Austrians.
I never got the Krampus thing. Seemed to me like terrorizing children into compliance wasn't the best parenting choice, but what do I know? Nothing says Christmastime like a little bit of horror, right?
And there's always someone with a psychotic streak who takes it too far after too much beer/schnapps.
Personally, being of Polish descent, it seems like there's some dark shit buried in the genetics of slavic and german people. Bubbles out in things like Krampus. Hell, might even be Kazarian-related or something.
Illuminati and the source of these past world wars was Germany. Nazi. Operation paperclip setting up the deep state. Now Klaus of WEF. It’s always Germany.
Let's not forget that Caganer character who takes a crap. In the manger scene you have Joseph and Mary and baby Jesus, and in the corner behind a cow there's this Caganer asshole taking a crap.
In the movie he’s basically the shadow of Santa- the dark one who takes instead of gives
Probably comes from this film. The Village (2004 film)
I think it is an actual live parade in Austria?
Rick Steve filmed it before. He didn't say much about it was a parade to visit village and people provide food to them.
I don’t get that. You feed a devil? Why?
I am sorry, but your statements show a severe ignorance on the point of this tradition.
The aim of it is not to become the devil. It is the contrary. Evil (and the bad spirits of winter, i.e. the cold, hunger) is chased off by dressing up as monsters or angelic beings (less common nowadays). Children are shown the "devil" to keep them behaving well.
I have no idea. Saw that on PBS with Rick Steve Christmas in Europe.
The American Dad cartoon has an episode of this with Krampus.
They outed krampus on American housewife a couple years ago on their Christmas episode. Little Anna Kat, their "special" daughter,did some research on krampus and shared it with the family and krampus was the theme of that episode.