Frens,
My Burgundy neighbour Brigitta, an 80yo German Lady was attending a service at Church when her husband, Klaus, hung himself.
She immediately came to me as shaken as one can imagine in such a situation and I had to handle all the communication with the police and emergency services as she doesn’t speak French.
Now she has her friend, former German teacher with her and the emergency people are leaving.
Klaus was a really healthy 85yo until he got hit by a car whilst riding his bicycle to town, 5 miles away. I last spoke with him yesterday and he was looking really diminished. Brigitta told me he had given up.
Please pray for Brigitta to find the peace she always desserved, being the wonderful lady she is. May she be blessed again with plenty of occasions to smile and enjoy the little things which make life so worth living.
I also pray God forgives Klaus’ selfish gesture and the harm it causes our tiny rural community. May he rest in peace forever.
😢🙏🏻
If somebody can find that in the Bible, then let me know.
Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is denying Christ.
I can’t find anywhere in the Bible where it says. If you kill yourself you’re going to hell. If you can find it, please let me know. I’ve been searching for years.
I know this is a sensitive topic.
God bless you and have a great day.
Curious about this one myself
Thou shall not murder. It can be argued that it doesn’t include one’s self, but I would beg to differ. The final act of one’s life with no room/time for repentance is a scary thought to me. Look at it in simple terms - who would be celebrating when a person kills themselves- Satan or Jesus?
Reading Scripture every day as a born again Christian is enough to give solace and peace through the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit would never guide one to suicide.
Is suicide or denying Christ blaspheming the Holy Spirit? I don’t know. I was under the impression that blaspheming the Holy Spirit was accusing the miracles preformed in the Bible to be that of the devil and not God. Maybe it’s all three.
So then, are you saying that anybody who commits murder would never go to heaven?
Either what Christ did on the cross for us is enough for it isn’t. Of course it says thou shall not murder. But I don’t think that’s an unforgivable sin. I can’t find that in the Bible. It also says to not commit adultery, and not to lie. But people do that every day, and I don’t think they’re going to hell for that either. We are all sinners… Even after we get saved, we sin. But according to God’s word, his blood covers my sin.
I either believe that what Christ did on the cross for me is sufficient, or I don’t. If Christ died for all of my sins, even before I was saved, then why would he not have died for all of my sins after I accept him?
Also… There are many people who suffer with mental illnesses, who want to kill themselves. This is one of my pet peeves about the Christian community. They don’t want to face the fact that many Christians suffer with mental illnesses. It is comments like yours, that key people that are Christians, who suffer from mental illnesses, from seeking help from with in the church.
It’s always this… Well, you must not be going to church enough, or you must not be reading the Bible enough, or you’re not going to enough personal Bible studies. IF - you were doing all those things, then you wouldn’t be feeling like wanting to kill yourself. Take it from me, mental illness is very real. The sooner the church starts to assist people who are feeling this way instead of telling them it’s their own fault, the better off the world will be.
Please don’t take this as me saying, you personally do this, I’m just saying… it’s been through the support of my women’s Bible study, and other fellow Christians, who have been kind enough to listen to my issues, that I’ve been able to work through all of this.
I will agree with you on one thing… Yes, I believe Satan is the one who is celebrating with somebody ends their life prematurely. I don’t believe that the Holy Spirit is leading people to feel this way for sure. However, the human race right now is living through a psychological operation, so bold and so demonic, that even the best of Christians risk failing in one way or another.
I guess the point is… If we are seeking perfection, we can find that in Christ. I’m so grateful I don’t have to be perfect for Him to love me, and that He died for my sins. I’m so grateful in so many ways that you will never know, and I’m very grateful that you don’t ever have to have those thoughts and feelings in your mind.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply, God bless you and have a great night.
First of all, I really admire your journey and all you have accomplished in your life thus far. …thank you for sharing. I don’t claim to be the source of all answers. I only stated my own belief at this point in my journey. I do understand what you are saying and mental illness is a really hard one to comprehend from a spiritual perspective. I believe as Christians we must ask for forgiveness and repent of our sins every moment we have the chance to. If we die while sinning, what happens? I do know that our Lord knows our hearts and our struggles. I meant no judgement, as Lord knows, I am far from perfect. I really have a hard time consoling friends and acquaintances that lost a loved one from suicide. I pray for them and the victim as well. That’s all I can do.
Sorry, but that’s your own interpretation of scripture,
It doesn’t say anywhere in scripture that committing suicide is will send you to hell. Nowhere. Can’t find it.
I’m not saying that if you commit suicide, you’re not a sinner. However; Christ’s blood should be enough. Is what Christ did on the cross enough for a sinner, to make it into heaven.
So, which one is it? Either you believe Christ sacrifice on the cross is enough for sand or you don’t.
According to your mindset… If lying is a sin, then all liars would go to hell. If committing adultery is this soon, then a lot of people would be going to hell for that too. Stealing is a sin… Does anyone who steals go to hell too! Murder is a soon, but does everybody who murdered somebody go to hell too?
Just being born were sinners. We are born into sin. It’s by accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, that we are absorbed of that sin. I’m not saying that as Christians we should trap of the blood of Christ.
However, for me to suggest that any work that I would commit, in the name of the Lord, would add to anything that Christ it on the cross, I think it is prideful and arrogance.
Also, I don’t know if you read any of the other comments in this thread. But mental illness is real. There are many people who have brain chemical imbalances who find it difficult to want to be alive every single day. It’s a real thing. You can read your Bible every day, go to church, every Sunday, be part of a Bible study group, and still be lacking in Hope. I’m glad that you’ve never had to feel this way.
Also - if you’re claiming that every single Christian and believer in God has had hope their entire lives, then why is there an entire book of psalms. Many written by King David, who was quite depressed and dejected? For many moments in his life. Don’t get me started on the book of Job.
I think there are other further scriptures that represent people who have dealt with many sad and hopeless times in their lives. Also… If we never had any hopelessness, what would we need God for? We would just assume that we could handle everything on our own.
Kind of like thinking, if we work hard enough, and we do enough good deeds, we will be able to make it into heaven all on our own? 🤣😂
Great scriptures in very true. But my question is if somebody kills himself do they go to hell. That’s all… But nobody can answer that because it’s not in the Bible.
Also, these people that were discussing her direct contact with God. God literally spoke to these people. We don’t have that convenience these days. Also, these are just for people who are mentioned that made it. And I’m happy for them. I’m just saying… Not everybody was sick as successful of being a Christian or in serving God as these four people.
We are fallible! I just don’t see God, sending somebody to hell who is fallible. My question is either Christ’s blood is enough for it isn’t. Nobody seems to want to answer that question.