Frens,
My Burgundy neighbour Brigitta, an 80yo German Lady was attending a service at Church when her husband, Klaus, hung himself.
She immediately came to me as shaken as one can imagine in such a situation and I had to handle all the communication with the police and emergency services as she doesn’t speak French.
Now she has her friend, former German teacher with her and the emergency people are leaving.
Klaus was a really healthy 85yo until he got hit by a car whilst riding his bicycle to town, 5 miles away. I last spoke with him yesterday and he was looking really diminished. Brigitta told me he had given up.
Please pray for Brigitta to find the peace she always desserved, being the wonderful lady she is. May she be blessed again with plenty of occasions to smile and enjoy the little things which make life so worth living.
I also pray God forgives Klaus’ selfish gesture and the harm it causes our tiny rural community. May he rest in peace forever.
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Lord God I lift up Brigitta. Father I ask you envelope her in your love and kindness. Protect her mind from the enemy so she can grieve properly without guilt or shame. May the wonderful memories be a consolation for her and her family. Please provide the funds for the expenses coming in the future and comfort her on every side. Please bless penisse and her friends and family so they can all praise you through the tears and be healed on the inside and out by your miraculous Hand! Thank you My Father Amen
Amen. Please Lord, do not let the "what ifs" and "if onlys" destroy Brigitta. Strengthen her with your presence, comfort her with your promise of salvation through Christ Jesus, and fill her with your Spirit, peace, & love. I ask this in Jesus' name, Amen.
Amen.
Amen
Sending prayers that echo your own. God bless.
May God comfort her and keep her in loving thoughts of her husband Klaus. I know that the Lord knows the agony and distress that Klaus was going through and most likely forgave him. For the Lord doesn't want anyone to perish. And so he must have found mercy upon him for this. The Lord doesn't put anymore upon you than you can stand. I am not saying it is right for what he did, nor am I saying it is wrong either, for who am I to judge. May he rest in peace and God bless Brigatta.
May Brigitta find love and peace in life every day. May she have strength to get through this hard time.
You are a caring neighbour fren, just what I would expect.
So sad. Prayers on the way.
I'm sorry to hear this. God bless you, Brigitta, and all those involved. It's good to know she has you there to help her.
Praying for Brigitta, and that she’ll be able to rebound from this. With the few years that she has left.
My only concern with this post, is your comment about Klaus’ selfish gesture?
Suicidal ideations are rampant in our society. It’s so prevalent, that they actually have euthanasia centers all over the world now for people to opt out. This is a mental and emotional psyop that this world has created on purpose. Klaus’ decision was anything but selfish. What a difficult decision for him to have to make. I’m saddened by this event, and I am so sorry that you had to deal with that. I’m sure it will be on your heart and mind for some time now., But please don’t feel like what he did was selfish.
Being a person who suffered with suicide my entire life, believe me… It’s anything but selfish. However; I made a decision years ago to never kill myself, because I would never do that to my family. To my mother or my daughter. But believe me, when I say this, I don’t know what’s worse… Wanting to kill yourself, or knowing that you can’t. Having to live this life, when you don’t want to be here, knowing you can’t kill yourself - is truly a tormented life.
I am happy to say that now… This last year, 2023, the Lord has finally healed me, and deliver me from those ideations. It was a long long haul because I’m 60 now. I count every day a blessing, and I am so grateful for what God is doing in my life.
Praying for you, and your friend. God bless you and have a great day.
Thanks for your thoughts on suicide. I can't find a connection between blaspheming the Holy Spirit (the only unforgivable sin) and suicide. I've heard some compelling arguments, but none convincing enough for me to believe that a person who makes a momentary decision at their weakest moment is irredeemable.
Not that I am condoning suicide, but who am I to condemn?
If somebody can find that in the Bible, then let me know.
Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is denying Christ.
I can’t find anywhere in the Bible where it says. If you kill yourself you’re going to hell. If you can find it, please let me know. I’ve been searching for years.
I know this is a sensitive topic.
God bless you and have a great day.
Curious about this one myself
Thou shall not murder. It can be argued that it doesn’t include one’s self, but I would beg to differ. The final act of one’s life with no room/time for repentance is a scary thought to me. Look at it in simple terms - who would be celebrating when a person kills themselves- Satan or Jesus?
Reading Scripture every day as a born again Christian is enough to give solace and peace through the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit would never guide one to suicide.
Is suicide or denying Christ blaspheming the Holy Spirit? I don’t know. I was under the impression that blaspheming the Holy Spirit was accusing the miracles preformed in the Bible to be that of the devil and not God. Maybe it’s all three.
So then, are you saying that anybody who commits murder would never go to heaven?
Either what Christ did on the cross for us is enough for it isn’t. Of course it says thou shall not murder. But I don’t think that’s an unforgivable sin. I can’t find that in the Bible. It also says to not commit adultery, and not to lie. But people do that every day, and I don’t think they’re going to hell for that either. We are all sinners… Even after we get saved, we sin. But according to God’s word, his blood covers my sin.
I either believe that what Christ did on the cross for me is sufficient, or I don’t. If Christ died for all of my sins, even before I was saved, then why would he not have died for all of my sins after I accept him?
Also… There are many people who suffer with mental illnesses, who want to kill themselves. This is one of my pet peeves about the Christian community. They don’t want to face the fact that many Christians suffer with mental illnesses. It is comments like yours, that key people that are Christians, who suffer from mental illnesses, from seeking help from with in the church.
It’s always this… Well, you must not be going to church enough, or you must not be reading the Bible enough, or you’re not going to enough personal Bible studies. IF - you were doing all those things, then you wouldn’t be feeling like wanting to kill yourself. Take it from me, mental illness is very real. The sooner the church starts to assist people who are feeling this way instead of telling them it’s their own fault, the better off the world will be.
Please don’t take this as me saying, you personally do this, I’m just saying… it’s been through the support of my women’s Bible study, and other fellow Christians, who have been kind enough to listen to my issues, that I’ve been able to work through all of this.
I will agree with you on one thing… Yes, I believe Satan is the one who is celebrating with somebody ends their life prematurely. I don’t believe that the Holy Spirit is leading people to feel this way for sure. However, the human race right now is living through a psychological operation, so bold and so demonic, that even the best of Christians risk failing in one way or another.
I guess the point is… If we are seeking perfection, we can find that in Christ. I’m so grateful I don’t have to be perfect for Him to love me, and that He died for my sins. I’m so grateful in so many ways that you will never know, and I’m very grateful that you don’t ever have to have those thoughts and feelings in your mind.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply, God bless you and have a great night.
First of all, I really admire your journey and all you have accomplished in your life thus far. …thank you for sharing. I don’t claim to be the source of all answers. I only stated my own belief at this point in my journey. I do understand what you are saying and mental illness is a really hard one to comprehend from a spiritual perspective. I believe as Christians we must ask for forgiveness and repent of our sins every moment we have the chance to. If we die while sinning, what happens? I do know that our Lord knows our hearts and our struggles. I meant no judgement, as Lord knows, I am far from perfect. I really have a hard time consoling friends and acquaintances that lost a loved one from suicide. I pray for them and the victim as well. That’s all I can do.
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Yes, it’s a difficult topic, people are very passionate about it! From my personal perspective, I’m never surprised when I hear somebody kills themselves. Now that’s sad. Seriously!
I’m just happy that the Lord has delivered me from that, and that I don’t have to suffer with that on a daily basis anymore.
However; if I was taken tomorrow, I wouldn’t be bummed about it. 😂🤣. I’m ready to go anytime. Even though I don’t want to kill myself daily, I’m fine with leaving tomorrow. But I know where I’m going and I think that makes a huge difference. God bless you and have a great day.
Sorry, but that’s your own interpretation of scripture,
It doesn’t say anywhere in scripture that committing suicide is will send you to hell. Nowhere. Can’t find it.
I’m not saying that if you commit suicide, you’re not a sinner. However; Christ’s blood should be enough. Is what Christ did on the cross enough for a sinner, to make it into heaven.
So, which one is it? Either you believe Christ sacrifice on the cross is enough for sand or you don’t.
According to your mindset… If lying is a sin, then all liars would go to hell. If committing adultery is this soon, then a lot of people would be going to hell for that too. Stealing is a sin… Does anyone who steals go to hell too! Murder is a soon, but does everybody who murdered somebody go to hell too?
Just being born were sinners. We are born into sin. It’s by accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, that we are absorbed of that sin. I’m not saying that as Christians we should trap of the blood of Christ.
However, for me to suggest that any work that I would commit, in the name of the Lord, would add to anything that Christ it on the cross, I think it is prideful and arrogance.
Also, I don’t know if you read any of the other comments in this thread. But mental illness is real. There are many people who have brain chemical imbalances who find it difficult to want to be alive every single day. It’s a real thing. You can read your Bible every day, go to church, every Sunday, be part of a Bible study group, and still be lacking in Hope. I’m glad that you’ve never had to feel this way.
Also - if you’re claiming that every single Christian and believer in God has had hope their entire lives, then why is there an entire book of psalms. Many written by King David, who was quite depressed and dejected? For many moments in his life. Don’t get me started on the book of Job.
I think there are other further scriptures that represent people who have dealt with many sad and hopeless times in their lives. Also… If we never had any hopelessness, what would we need God for? We would just assume that we could handle everything on our own.
Kind of like thinking, if we work hard enough, and we do enough good deeds, we will be able to make it into heaven all on our own? 🤣😂
Great scriptures in very true. But my question is if somebody kills himself do they go to hell. That’s all… But nobody can answer that because it’s not in the Bible.
Also, these people that were discussing her direct contact with God. God literally spoke to these people. We don’t have that convenience these days. Also, these are just for people who are mentioned that made it. And I’m happy for them. I’m just saying… Not everybody was sick as successful of being a Christian or in serving God as these four people.
We are fallible! I just don’t see God, sending somebody to hell who is fallible. My question is either Christ’s blood is enough for it isn’t. Nobody seems to want to answer that question.
Don't kill yourself fren, God loves you.
SO grateful for your deliverance fren!! Praying for your continued blessings! 🙌 u/ThisIsHowItStarts
u/penisse We are brokenhearted for Brigitta and you! Thankfully she has you for a neighbor and friend. Does she have any family near to comfort her? Praying your community can rally around her. Such a tragic loss. Praying for God's Healing Touch for all. 💔🙏🪽💕
Suicide is a spirit and a demon one at that. This is why it’s uncontrollable. If you come out of agreement with it and drive that spirit out and fill it with God, it can’t come back. This is why suicide doesn’t seem natural to those not dealing with it. Any sin you can’t control likely has a demon at the root. Once the demon is gone, you can regain control but it can come back worse if allowed back. This is what happens to those stuck in porn and keep getting sucked deeper into it and other sins start to take root that are related.
Matthew 12:43-45 43 When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.”
But if somebody has Jesus Christ, as their Lord and Savior, they can’t have a demon inside of them. Light and darkness can’t dwell together. So I’m not sure how that explain somebody who is a Christian.
Although I do agree that somebody can have a demon of suicide, who is not saved - but once saved, you cannot be demon possessed. Because the spirit of the living God lives inside of you. I’m so grateful for that.
I’m not talking about possession, since that would be mind control but something still bad and controlling. I have dealt with this personally and even had the privilege of God’s voice manifesting. God’s voice and a demon manifested at the same time and God claimed me as a child. Then he commanded the demon to leave and it left. I was freed at that moment from a bunch of sin. I also didn’t believe in demon possession at the time either
Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m glad the Lord has set you free.
Now if we are talking about those strange suicides we see, I’m willing to bet many of them have to do with possession and the victims die due to their own hand but they didn’t intend to. Strange phrases or things they did right before death also lead me to think this.
Prayers sent, condolences to all.
Prayers up. 🙁
Done.
Prayers for your friends. Take care.
Brigitta is such a pretty name. God bless her, hope she finds peace.
Penisse, please let her know that complete strangers are praying for her and that she is not alone. We do care about her and want the best. The Lord is with the broken-hearted.
Dear God.
Place your hands on Brigitta's shoulders to give her strength.
In your sons name Jesus Christ.
Amen.
Prayers on the way for your fren.
Pax. In nomine Patrii, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti.
God, please give Brigitta the strength she needs to make it through this awful tragedy. Hold her close, Lord.
Lord, please surround Brigitta, her family, her friends, Penise and all of her community with a special grace. Penise, please tell Brigitta that people from all around the world are praying.
GOD please allow the pain to leave her life, Matthew 18:19-20 “Also, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about something and pray for it, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. This is true because if two or three people come together in my name, I am there with them.”
She will be in my prayers.