Finally, a reasonable post on this topic. It amazes me all the hate for EVs on this site. I don't know about other brands, but Teslas are amazing vehicles to have as long as you can charge from home. We drove over 26,000 miles the past 12 months and paid $447. Compare that to any gas vehicle or even a hybrid.
It's a great feeling waking up every morning to a fully charged car. No wasted time going to gas stations. We get home, plug it in, and repeat the next day. So easy.
I couldn't care less about the environment, and have no delusions that most of the electricity we use is coming from coal. I just know it's saving us money, time, and hassle.
Go Trump and FJB, just so nobody thinks I'm a troll.
Yeah people complain about range, but most folks are just driving around their town, maybe 100 miles a day if that? I live near a smallish 600k sized midwestern city, and I could drive all over that town all day and maybe get to 50%. I like to tow a camper so we still have something capable of that, but if you're just commuting to work it's SO much cheaper.
Yep.. and what did the charger and install cost you? More than $447, I assume.
That's the great thing about EVs, it makes the costs so abstract, people literally just forget about them. Or they take subsidies and are really proud of it for some reason.
Charger cost $500. I did the installation myself. So even with that, it's still much cheaper than gas. Of course you neglected to respond about the conveniences and time savings.
26000 miles at 40 mpg is 650 gallons at $3.199/gallon is $2,079 in fuel costs. That's all using estimates most favorable to your argument. You haven't saved anything significant.
You've ignored the inconvenience of being unable to travel with your vehicle without spending much more time than I would. For your exceptionally narrow use case it has so far worked for you. This is why people hate EVs, because EV owners act like no one else uses their car differently than they do, or they haven't had to repair their vehicle yet.
And time savings? Fuel pumps operate at 10 gallons per minute. How much time were you actually spending putting fuel in your vehicle? Yet you did the installation of the charger yourself. You must have an exceptional difficulty in placing the correct value on your own time.
Which is all fine.. but pretending that "you don't get why people hate EVs" is shallow and made me want to respond.
40mpg? What percentage of gas vehicles on the road today get that? I bet it's less than 25%.
But using this absurdly high mpg, I'm still paying > 75% less per year. > 50% if you count the cost of the charger, which is only a 1 time fee. I think 75% savings is significant.
You time your next gas fillup from empty to full. Not the time when you start pumping, but the time you take pulling into the station, finding a free pump, getting your credit card pre-approved (hoping it actually works and you don't have to go inside, or even better, hoping that nobody installed a fake reader and steals your card info), pump your gas, shut everything down, and get out of the station back on the road. 5 minutes minimum, more likely 10.
With the miles we drive, I'd have to fillup at least 2x/week. Keep the math simple to get 100 fillups/year. 5 minutes each, that's 500 minutes. More likely 10 minutes or 1000 minutes/year total. If I go on a long trip and stop to charge my Tesla, I might stop for 20 minutes max per stop vs 5-10 minutes for a gas stop. I'll take a piss and get a bite to eat on that long trip and happily avoid wasting 500-1000 minutes/year at gas stations.
I was able to install my charger in less time than it would take to drive to my closest gas station, fillup, and drive back. And now I never have to do that again.
Kudos to you for standing up for what you believe, but what you believe is based on gas lighting from the DS against Elon, nothing more.
Finally, a reasonable post on this topic. It amazes me all the hate for EVs on this site. I don't know about other brands, but Teslas are amazing vehicles to have as long as you can charge from home. We drove over 26,000 miles the past 12 months and paid $447. Compare that to any gas vehicle or even a hybrid.
It's a great feeling waking up every morning to a fully charged car. No wasted time going to gas stations. We get home, plug it in, and repeat the next day. So easy.
I couldn't care less about the environment, and have no delusions that most of the electricity we use is coming from coal. I just know it's saving us money, time, and hassle.
Go Trump and FJB, just so nobody thinks I'm a troll.
Yeah people complain about range, but most folks are just driving around their town, maybe 100 miles a day if that? I live near a smallish 600k sized midwestern city, and I could drive all over that town all day and maybe get to 50%. I like to tow a camper so we still have something capable of that, but if you're just commuting to work it's SO much cheaper.
Yep.. and what did the charger and install cost you? More than $447, I assume.
That's the great thing about EVs, it makes the costs so abstract, people literally just forget about them. Or they take subsidies and are really proud of it for some reason.
Charger cost $500. I did the installation myself. So even with that, it's still much cheaper than gas. Of course you neglected to respond about the conveniences and time savings.
26000 miles at 40 mpg is 650 gallons at $3.199/gallon is $2,079 in fuel costs. That's all using estimates most favorable to your argument. You haven't saved anything significant.
You've ignored the inconvenience of being unable to travel with your vehicle without spending much more time than I would. For your exceptionally narrow use case it has so far worked for you. This is why people hate EVs, because EV owners act like no one else uses their car differently than they do, or they haven't had to repair their vehicle yet.
And time savings? Fuel pumps operate at 10 gallons per minute. How much time were you actually spending putting fuel in your vehicle? Yet you did the installation of the charger yourself. You must have an exceptional difficulty in placing the correct value on your own time.
Which is all fine.. but pretending that "you don't get why people hate EVs" is shallow and made me want to respond.
40mpg? What percentage of gas vehicles on the road today get that? I bet it's less than 25%.
But using this absurdly high mpg, I'm still paying > 75% less per year. > 50% if you count the cost of the charger, which is only a 1 time fee. I think 75% savings is significant.
You time your next gas fillup from empty to full. Not the time when you start pumping, but the time you take pulling into the station, finding a free pump, getting your credit card pre-approved (hoping it actually works and you don't have to go inside, or even better, hoping that nobody installed a fake reader and steals your card info), pump your gas, shut everything down, and get out of the station back on the road. 5 minutes minimum, more likely 10.
With the miles we drive, I'd have to fillup at least 2x/week. Keep the math simple to get 100 fillups/year. 5 minutes each, that's 500 minutes. More likely 10 minutes or 1000 minutes/year total. If I go on a long trip and stop to charge my Tesla, I might stop for 20 minutes max per stop vs 5-10 minutes for a gas stop. I'll take a piss and get a bite to eat on that long trip and happily avoid wasting 500-1000 minutes/year at gas stations.
I was able to install my charger in less time than it would take to drive to my closest gas station, fillup, and drive back. And now I never have to do that again.
Kudos to you for standing up for what you believe, but what you believe is based on gas lighting from the DS against Elon, nothing more.