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Taxation Accurately Defined… 🤨🤨 (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 2 years ago by Oldpatriot 2 years ago by Oldpatriot +203 / -0
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– xchainlinkx 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

We all need to collectively stop filing taxes

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– BringTheCat789 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

It would be completely futile. Even if we could all band together to stop paying taxes at the same time such that they couldn't arrest of all of and even if we don't then fall for their tricks to make us get back in line, all they would do is print more money, which is the indirect taxation of inflation that you can't control if you're still using their currency.

The only way to do this truly is to switch to a different currency which they do not have the ability to create more of and stop paying taxes collectively.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– Christine_grab 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Your comment gave me a lightbulb moment: California bureaucrats have deliberately raised cost of living so that people are forced to get second (and sometimes third) jobs in order to make ends meet.... the high cost of living is a strategy California uses to enrich itself. How did I not figure that out sooner?????

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– Christine_grab 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, exactly.

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– ThisIsNotMyName 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Even if we could all band together to stop paying taxes at the same time such that they couldn't arrest of all

I've never understood the reasoning behind this standpoint.

What does it matter if it's possible for them to all get arrested or not? I get the impression people think the IRS would be so overwhelmed they'd just give up and not arrest anyone for not paying taxes.

Or do they think that while the IRS would arrest some people, the odds would be in their favor and they would get skipped?

Personally, I think the IRS would just hire more and more people to pick up the slack and they have 10 years to get to them before the statute of limitations expires.

Even worse, I think they would focus their efforts on the ones they could get the most money out of for the least amount of effort. Rich people can afford to have great lawyers who will use every loophole possible and drag the case on forever. Poor people don't have enough money to make it worth their effort.

So who does that leave? The middle class. Those who make a decent amount of money, but can't afford the shark lawyers to save them.

Please know that I'm not trying to start a fight with you over this. I'm not saying you're wrong on anything. You just happened to be the one to comment on it, and you seem to have a good grasp of the situation. I just don't understand why people think what they do on this and am hoping someone can point out what I'm missing.

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– BringTheCat789 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The idea is that if everyone does it, there would be so much of a public outcry, that the IRS would quickly become powerless if they start arresting everyone.

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– ThisIsNotMyName 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Hmmm, so maybe a little like what happened with Prohibition? Ok, I can see how that might work.

Thanks for the response!

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– Christine_grab 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

"Even worse, I think they would focus their efforts on the ones they could get the most money out of for the least amount of effort. Rich people can afford to have great lawyers who will use every loophole possible and drag the case on forever. Poor people don't have enough money to make it worth their effort.."

I am a middle class person in California that got caught up in an unlawful scheme run by the State's income tax agency to collect more taxes than is actually owed (by their own records). The scheme that I got caught up in targets small business owners and retirees, particularly those who are married. Because a lawyer would have cost more than the amount being disputed, there was no point in hiring a lawyer. I represented myself, but most people just give in and pay the excess taxes.

As I have been fighting back, I have uncovered several more schemes to overcharge taxpayers. Some of the schemes target the poor.

Meanwhile, the State is desperately trying to get everyone who is not required to file a return to file a return anyway, using an assortment of carrots and sticks to try to incentivize/coerce them to file returns. Little do these people know that they are being lured into a trap.

I believe that the state is trying to ensure that people become "trapped in the system" and can't ever pull themselves into a better financial situation by imposing excess taxes, fees, penalties and interest that were never owed, then garnishing wages/cleaning out bank accounts, thus ensuring people are in a bad financial situation.

I guess what I am saying is that I agree with you, that the government will use the lack of filing returns/paying taxes to further "deep state" agendas to force everyone into poverty.

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– ThisIsNotMyName 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It really is disgusting how they deliberately set people up for failure.

If a person didn't pay their taxes because they didn't have the money, they're obviously not going to be able to pay the fines and penalties on top of that.

They know exactly what they're doing, and it really is just disgusting.

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– cyberrigger 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

We need to raise tariffs ----- bring industry back home ---- and make it more lucrative than government.

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– tdbo 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

It actually has evolved into an uncontrolled Ponzi scheme.

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– Iknowstuff 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

This ends when WE stop funding our own destruction.

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– JohnnyMagnum357 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Im not a legal kinda guy, but it seems to me that the IRS, at this point, could actually be taken to task as they do not meet the definition of "tax collector" anymore. (If they ever did).

They 100% meet the definition of Ponze scheme, as someone else here said.

We are under no obligation to participate in Ponze schemes. They allocate that money to kill our citizens through war, pharma and abortion......among many other things.

I would be party to their criminal scheme if I help fund it.

By that measure, there is no need to formally disconnect. They broke the contract. There's nothing to talk about.

I've made peace with the disconnect and Im willing to stand my ground about it.

There will be no courts

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– Throwaway2023 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

This is how it was in the old days before FDR and the progressive movement nationalized much of it

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– ELMapache 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It's called extortion.

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– Birdiegal 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yes..that's what I say. Extortion.

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– MEGAMAGAULTRA 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The government cannot give without first taking from the people.

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– bluewhiteandred 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

c/ancaps ?

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– Pbman2 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Worse than that,if they make shit worse,they get more money.....

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– ancroidubh 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The threat is much more deadly than incarceration…

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– TinkAnon 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I saw a meme on X and it was that prior to 1913, the USA was set up by our Founders as a tax free nation. We need to know our inalienable rights. Understand that the Constitution IS the supreme law of the land and any subsequent law must be pursuant to the Constitution or it is null and void. We do not need SCOTUS to make this determination. We simply do not comply. The purpose of our limited government is to secure our rights.

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