The Greatest Reset: Beast Rising BIBLICAL (I searched GAW and did not find this so I'm posting)
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FAR more than 66 books. You're not going to get the 40,000 foot view with truncated edited information.
These 66 Books were inspired by the Holy Spirit. All other books though they make be correct in doctrine are written by man and if they do not agree with God’s Word, you would be better off without them.
All the books not included in the 66 book cannon actually have doctrine that contradicts Christ's and the Apostle's teachings. The early Christian community recognized this, which is why those books were never included in the cannon to begin with.
FTFY.
Conflating the works of Paul (or his underlings) as the teachings of Jesus has been a huge misdirection. If you look at the gospel of Thomas for example (quite possibly written by the brother of Jesus), there is nothing in there that contradicts any quote by Jesus in the Bible (red letters).
There are the actual sayings of Jesus, and there is the narrative overlay. There is substantial evidence of additions to that overlay as time went on. (That is just a place to start, it's not "the evidence").
FTFY
Remember what happened as a result of this effort. We had the creation of The Church, at the behest of Emperor Constantine, which made into Law, on penalty of death, certain beliefs (like the Trinity, which was not doctrine before 383 AD). The resulting outcome of these efforts of creating official doctrine set up a God-Emperor as the highest official mouthpiece of The Truth of Jesus Christ's Teachings. This same institution became the Holy Roman Empire which created the Dark Ages, where all of humanity was ruled by The Church. A thousand years of darkness...
Or two thousand years. I mean, we are still in it. It has just changed from one dark room to another, run by the same group of people.
The assertion that conflating Pauline writings with the teachings of Jesus is a misdirection and that the Gospel of Thomas aligns seamlessly with Jesus' recorded sayings requires careful consideration of both Paul's letters and the content of the Gospel of Thomas.
Distinctive Messages:
Theological Emphasis:
Jesus' Teachings in Canonical Gospels:
Authorship and Historical Context:
Here are a few examples that highlight the distinctive nature of the sayings in the Gospel of Thomas compared to the teachings found in canonical Gospels and Pauline writings:
Example of Hidden Knowledge:
Example of Gnostic Themes:
Example of Spiritual Insight:
It's important to note that the Gnostic flavor in the Gospel of Thomas lies in its emphasis on esoteric knowledge, spiritual transformation, and unique perspectives on gender and salvation. These aspects distinguish it from the more straightforward ethical teachings and narratives found in canonical Gospels and the theological focus of Paul's letters.
Every response starts with this supposition. This is the premise upon which all arguments rest. The primary evidence for this premise comes from the people who put together the "66" books themselves. Except at the time it was not 66, it was 76. Quite a few have been taken out since then (not all at the same time) to fit someone else's agenda. Even more were taken out before that "original" 76.
Each point of removal was, according to it's adherents, "inspired by the Holy Spirit." They most certainly weren't inspired by maintaining the Church hierarchy that was established to control the population. Nope, that's not possible. The book says so.
The authorship of 2 Timothy is difficult to discern (as are all the books). It may have been written by Paul. It may have been written by one of his disciples. It most certainly did not come from anything Jesus said (that we know about). Regardless, in this case, the "Scripture" being talked about was not the same 66 books we have today. Indeed, numerous books that were not included in the "original 76" were considered canon by the various groups of people who called themselves "Christian" (followers of the teachings of Jesus).
It was during the construction of a Church hierarchy (control structure) that 2 Timothy was created. It is likely that other works of "canon" were created after this book was written. So exactly what books were "inspired by the Holy Spirit" as this verse suggests?
Perhaps the truth is exactly as the evidence suggests: the bible, like all other books, was written by people who had their own things to say, with whatever motivated them to say it. In the case of the OT, the books (far more were "canon" pre-Jesus than the ones we got) were written by the ancestors of the very people who rule the world through manipulation of belief today.
That doesn't mean that I think the bible isn't a useful tool for understanding the world. On the contrary, I think it is incredibly useful. But it's not the only such useful tool. Limiting yourself to just those "66 complete and true books" prevents you from seeing how useful other evidence is. Expanding your investigation will, I suggest, lead to a deeper appreciation of Reality than the boxes we have been placed in by the PTB. The boxes that have all sorts of evidence that they were created specifically to control us.
The claim that numerous books were considered canon by various Christian groups contradicts the historical reality. Early Christian communities did have some variations in their canons, but there was a gradual consensus, and many books were widely accepted across different regions.
Authorship of 2 Timothy: You suggest uncertainty about the authorship of 2 Timothy (by citing a Wiki page <eyeroll>) and assert it may have been created during the construction of a Church hierarchy. While authorship debates exist for some biblical books, attributing motives solely to the establishment of Church control oversimplifies the complex historical and theological factors involved in canonization.
These statement are at direct odds.
There is a gradual consensus recorded by those very same people who won the war. And indeed, it was a war, with deaths and laws and conquerors etc. Certain beliefs were stamped out, written out by law under penalty of death.
How exactly was consensus created? Was it "gradual"? Sure, there is evidence of steps of the people who are commonly quoted, but importantly, there is evidence of different views that were labeled "heretical" during those "gradual" steps as well. Were they truly "heretical," or were they stated as such by the victors? I doubt the numerous people, of which there is substantial historical record that still exists today considered themselves to be heretical. Again, the victors of that war called them heretics, and those same victors wrote the bible its modern day adherents consider "the total and complete truth."
Wikipedia is useful. You can, from there, dig deeper because they cite their sources. I could have instead gone to the sources, dug that out and quoted it. Would that have made it better for you or would you have instead rolled your eyes at that?
There is no doubt, as far as I have seen, that that was the case. A Church Hierarchy was being created. It was part of the Christian Beliefs war. No one doubts that statement. Why do you?
All of history is an "oversimplification." But one can put things simply, while appreciating that there is a lot that complicates it. However, the statements I have made have to do with important pieces of evidence that are left out of the narrative of the True Believers. That all by itself should tell you something.
WRONG. There are WAY more scrolls, books, texts etc than just 66 books in the Bible. Many amazing books were removed to preserve the power and control of the church and its leaders. They also removed central tenets of Christianity to give the church and its leaders the false attribute of being needed by the individual, when clearly, you do not need others to have a connection to the Creator and the Holy Spirit.
While it's true that there are numerous ancient texts beyond the 66 books of the Bible, the process of canonization involved careful consideration and theological scrutiny. The decision to include certain books and exclude others was not solely driven by a desire for power and control. Early Christian communities sought to preserve teachings consistent with apostolic tradition and the message of Jesus.
The process of canonization aimed at preserving the core tenets of Christianity based on theological criteria. While individual connection to the Creator and the Holy Spirit is emphasized in Christian spirituality, the organized church plays a role in providing communal worship, fellowship, and guidance. The removal of certain texts was often due to concerns about their theological consistency with established doctrines. However, the belief in a personal connection to the divine doesn't negate the importance of communal aspects within Christianity. The exclusion of specific texts does not inherently invalidate the profound individual connection to God that many believers experience.
I did not post anything wanting to argue over it. You do what you believe. I don't need any other books!
By the leaders of specific groups.
It's important to appreciate exactly who was doing the consideration and exactly which "theological scrutiny" was involved. There were a lot of theologies in competition at the time.
The first thing to appreciate, that almost no one does, is that everyone involved of note was from the upper crust of society (call it "top one percent"(ish)). All of the Christian leaders who are quoted were all born into wealth and community power. This is a recurring theme in history, and one that is almost never considered. Information, schooling, etc., were not available to most people. They never have been. You had to born to the right class to have a voice at all. This is how it was in the Jewish community, and how it was in the Roman Empire. The plebeians were just that; ignorant and voiceless. They were controlled by the ruling class who had access to writings, had the training in how to read, and had the time to do so, all of which means wealth, station, and some level of power. The same is true of the leaders of the Christian community.
Prove it. It is easy to show that everyone involved was born to the people who already had at least some level of power and control in the community. For those that have power, one of the common motivating factors for action taken is to keep power (or more likely, increase it). There is plenty of evidence that the motivations were to keep power in what actually happened after the fact (see the Constantine Church). Why assume that what resulted wasn't also a part of the motivation?
FTFY.
There were a metric fuckton of people (according to evidence) that were not in the Pauline camp. They were all killed, or silenced, or their books burned; called "heretics" or "gnostics" or whatever. This is the reality of how the "teachings were made consistent with tradition". The tradition was forced, by bloodshed, ad hominem, and propaganda from those who had power in the community.
FTFY
Perhaps this is because you cannot be disconnected from Source. It is impossible. You can only be convinced to ignore the connection (or misconstrue what it means). Just because I think there was fuckery in the "Christianity" we got doesn't mean there is no truth in there. The best lies are built on the Truth. It is made a lie not by stating non-truths, but by leaving important things out,. and giving a narrative overlay that matches with your design.
That is how the news is run today (on both sides). There is plenty of evidence that suggests that is how the world has always been run. Why assume it was any different then when the results were exactly the same in the case of the development of Christianity (consolidation of power through control of beliefs).
I can tell by your comment that you haven't read any of them, nor do you know anything about the counsels that removed them. Read an Ethiopian Bible. It long predates your (Scofield) bible.
Didn’t post this here to argue.
You read what you want and I will read the Holy Bible. Peace
Which specific council are you referring to, exactly?