Was in a conversation with my dad today and I mentioned the illegitimacy of Haley Vivek and obama as President because their parents weren’t US citizens at the time of their birth. I thought I was right but need help frens. My dad had my blood boiling today. He said Trump is a liar and a rapist. I did remain calm but man was I hot. Still am. Love my folks but they are so brainwashed.
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Qualifications for the Presidency:
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S1-C5-1/ALDE_00013692/
It all hinges on Natural-Born Citizen
nothing you can do about their TDS. I find it is better to simply poke holes in the media whenever you can. If they begin to see the medias lies and agenda driven news they will not be able to unsee it. This will break the spell, then it will just take time.
Yep. TDS is a REAL, no shit affliction.
Normies still aren’t all ready for this. Just keep dropping pills. They will sit on one and take it as a suppository one day. Law of averages or something like that.
Just show him this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
😂😂😂
FREN, I am right there with you. When people you love and care about are completely captured by the Matrix. It sucks. It sucks ass because to you, it is probably not about being right, it is about them knowing what you know. TRUTH. It is painful to see people in your inner most circle abandon all critical thought, and commit to a toxic ‘religion’, even what the TRUTH is right in front of them.
Oh boy do I know exactly how you feel. My eldest son is a great kid. A lawyer by trade, and a stellar one according to his bosses (who I play golf with). Super intelligent by all other measures. But if you mention Trump, he shits his pants and transforms into a liberal white woman. The machine has its talons in that boy DEEP. Last month I lost MY shit on him, and I actually slapped $1000 cash on the table in front of him and told him if he could show me ONE … JUST ONE instance of Trump attacking someone who didn't attack him FIRST he could keep that stack of $100 bills. I still have that money. Its in an envelope in my safe waiting for that ONE instance.
I have a brother that like your son. Very smart, very successful. He is too smart for his own good. We can't talk about Trump at all. Changing his mind is out of the question. He even has a child that held a top spot in Trump administration and still does not like Trump.
So smart he took the jab. Now what does that tell you.
Have a brother like that as well…I bet him a Tomahawk Rib Eye Dinner that Trump won, Q is real and that Michelle actually has a 🍆(dude brushed off the flopping 🍆on Ellen as AI). Can’t wait to collect that steak, but use it now as a Red Pill moment every time he asks for it😂😂😂
Hey, there's and idea!
The bet, the challenge, the score, winning, losing, things smart competitive people cannot resist. And then there's the "A lawyer by trade" thing.
So why not seek to present your argument to a jury of peer (the decision of jury would not be as important as the spotlight on the information presented.
Rules for argument would loosely follow basic court decorum, and rules:
A Judge - Hold court to rules for argument as determine by Pros/Def
A Jury - As chosen by Pros/Def
Prosecutor - Arguing for Trump
Defendant - Arguing against Trump
In my view, two things would result:
If your opponent refused to present his case within a fair, unbiased framework, then that is admittance of weak position.
Opportunity to present you side, where other wise you cannot.
Or one could just choice to hold a Oxford style debate on the subject. Pole how people feel before debate, and how far the needle moves.
Here you go, fren. https://greatawakening.win/p/17s5kMc4Qi/natural-born-citizen-explained--/c/
H/T u/acts2
Regarding the rape. That woman would have been bragging to everyone she knew about it. All you have to do is read/watch her stuff to know that. But she didn’t.
Regarding lies. Truism: Trump + Time = Truth
Here’s a good video that explains it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=24&v=h9PxdDvgQks&source_ve_path=MTUyNzg5LDE1MzE1NSwyMzg1MQ&feature=emb_title
Short version: Both parents have to be citizens at the time of birth. However, for this requirement the husband conveys his citizenship on the wife.
Niki not. Cameltoe not. Obama not. Obama is not even a citizen. His mother was too young to convey citizenship to him based on the law at the time.
All of Trump’s children are natural born due to the husband conveying his citizenship on his wife at the time.
You are not going to find the kind of sauce that will suffice to prove your case to a TDS victim. If solid, indisputable, rock hard facts existed for those claims then, those people would not be running for office. The only facts available are all unfortunately disputable.
However, in the case of 0bama, there is quite a lot of evidence to make a solid claim that he is not a natural born US citizen. But, there is a lot of evidence to sort through, and a lot of misinformation to complicate matters on that topic. And, some of that evidence is disputable as well. All we know for certain is that he has never provided a legal birth certificate, and that one of his birthing nurses was murdered after giving a time/date account of his alleged birth that indicated he was not born American.
The point I am getting at, is that this subject isn't very good red-pill material. If you are going to try this approach anyways, then stick to 0bama.
Sherriff Joe Arpaio has done extensive research on the 0bama thing, and while there is solid evidence, it is unlikely that it's strong enough proof to hold up in a court of law. But here is the kind of digging you are going to need to do to try to prove your case.
https://www.scribd.com/document/83560145/Maricopa-County-Sheriff-Joe-Arpaio-s-Findings-on-Obama-Birth-Investigation-3-1-2012
In discussions like these: rapist and liar are red herrings, for you to focus on, as a diversion. It matters not if your father thinks or is convinced Trump to be liar and a rapist. The matter is a question of constitutionality, not personal bis or even animus, or outright hostility.
**Ask questions: **
These are open questions.
What is the constitutional provision for being elective for President? Where does the not being a liar provision come in as a constitutional requirement? Where does the not being a rapist provision come in as a constitutional requirement?
These are leading questions.
So, in effect, would you say that the constitutional requirement of natural born citizen of a certain age and citizenship is a requirement, rather than lying and raping?
So a rapist can be elective for president provided he or she is a natural born citizen?
area conclusion:
So, now we agree on the provisions, let' s focus on the meaning.
How does one become a citizen of the US? When one holds dual citizenship, is that barring or allowing being elective for president?
hypotheticals:
Say, Putin would immigrate into the US, without becoming a citizen, but remain a resident alien for a time. During this time, he and his lady, conceive and birth a daughter. Can this daughter in your opinion be elective for president? Is this daughter really a natural born citizen?
This daughter goes on to live and remain a US citizen. She marries a US citizen, and they birth a son, born on US soil, a US citizen. Is this a natural born US citizen? Does this son then fulfill the constitutional requirement to be elective for president of the united States?
Now, bias will shine through. This is all there is: conveying knowledge. The con-vict-ion is a matter of a personal journey.
Thank you all for the replies. TDS is strong with my folks. Messed up part is they’re conservatives. But 5pm comes around and they’re glued to the nightly mainstream news.