https://www.businessinsider.com/qanon-conspiracy-theory-covid-19-vaccines-turn-kids-trans-gay-2021-2
False allegations that COVID-19 vaccines turn children gay or trans are spreading rapidly on Telegram, the messaging-based social-media app.
Ayatollah Abbas Tabrizian, an Iranian cleric who is known for spreading false medical claims, appeared to be the first to popularize the bogus claim in a post on Tuesday for his more than 210,000 Telegram followers, the Jerusalem Post reported.
Following Tabrizian's Telegram post, popular figures within the world of QAnon, the baseless far-right conspiracy theory alleging Donald Trump is fighting to destroy a cabal of pedophiles, began to discuss the baseless claim. Influential QAnon channels, including one with more than 182,000 subscribers, began circulating the idea, using convoluted and inaccurate logic to question whether vaccinations could impact the gender and sexuality of children. These posts have tens of thousands of views.
MelQ, a QAnon influencer with 57,000 Telegram subscribers, shared a news article that referenced Tabrizian's comments. The post, in which the influencer shared a conspiracy theory claiming that vaccines in general cause "Gender confusion," has 71,000 views as of Friday morning. A Telegram representative did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.
There is no link between vaccinations and queerness, medical experts told Insider. Still, these claims continue to spread on Telegram among QAnon conspiracy theorists who cited comments from Tabrizian, whose field of medical advice is considered a threat by Iranian health officials.
"There is certainly evidence that shows unvaccinated children are more likely to catch things like measles, but there is no relationship between vaccines or not being vaccinated and being queer or transgender," Dr. David Verhoeven, an expert in virology and professor of Vet Microbiology & Preventive Medicine at Iowa State University, told Insider.
Medical experts say there is no link between vaccinations and queerness
Some of the claims say that the COVID-19 vaccines turn children queer or trans by somehow activating a recessive "queer" or "trans" gene passed down by the parents.
According to Verhoeven, this theory is false for multiple reasons, the first being the vaccines don't integrate into human DNA at all and only activate the body's immune system against the coronavirus.
"The only thing within the body that the vaccine 'turns on' is the immune system," Verhoeven said. "Since there is no 'gay gene' anyways, there is no connection between getting vaccinated for COVID or any other pathogen and 'turning' queer or transgender."
While researchers have tried for decades to find a specific gene that makes a person queer or transgender, no such gene has ever been found.
The other portion of the theory asserts the combination of the vaccine coupled with soy products in our food supply would lead to more children being queer or trans.
Again, Verhoeven said there is no evidence to back these claims, as certain East Asian communities have historically eaten many soy products with no disproportionate rates of queer or trans people.
"If we can stop looking at being queer or gay as some defect or disease that needs to be cured or prevented and just be accepting of diversity, society would certainly benefit," Verhoeven told Insider.
The QAnon community has played a major role in spreading COVID-19 misinformation
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Mostly right-wing protesters, including a young woman wearing a QAnon shirt, observe riot police clearing Unter den Linden avenue during protests against coronavirus-related restrictions and government policy on August 29, 2020 in Berlin, Germany.
QAnon influencers, like other far-right activists, have used their platforms to promote baseless conspiracy theories about COVID-19 throughout the pandemic.
Marc-André Argentino, a PhD candidate at Concordia University researching extremism, wrote in an August report in The Conversation that the online QAnon ecosystem applied its "conspiracy mentality to the coronavirus crisis," beginning with the movement's belief that the virus was a hoax created to damage Trump's reelection chances. Even "Q," the anonymous figure whose cryptic messages originated the conspiracy-theory movement, has made false claims about the virus in posts on 8kun, a message board known for misinformation that's popular on the far-right.
Throughout the spring of 2020, the QAnon community merged with other COVID-19 deniers, most of whom come from wellness and pseudoscience spheres, a September 2020 BBC News investigation found. Together, these groups have protested government-mandated lockdown orders in the US and Europe throughout the pandemic.
MelQ, one of the QAnon influencers who spread Tabrizian's claims on Telegram, was one of the major proponents of coronavirus disinformation.
Since the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were announced in December, conspiracy theories alleging these shots cause various health problems continue to go viral on social media.
Facebook has since cracked down on vaccine misinformation, after false claims that the COVID-19 shots caused infertility circulated widely on the company's flagship app and on Instagram.
let's apply what we have learned in the last few years, in the comments below...
Well, they WERE doing experiments to make monkeys transgender around the same time. It was the same time they were torturing beagles. Just sayin.
VaXXines DO cause or contribute to AUTISM.
The AUTISTIC are targeted by the transition industry because many are susceptible to their grooming. There IS a disproportional number of them who fall prey to the SATANIC spell.
vaccines are witchcraft.
vaccines are idolatry.
vaccines are evil.
I remember when they said gays were born that way. Now they are saying that there is no gay gene.
Point to ponder: why are essentially all adult trans also pedos? The mall experiment could have something to do with it. Mothers and children react very differently when a female stranger gets up close and friendly with a child as compared to a male stranger. Wolf in sheep’s clothing.
hyperlinks to rabbit holes please
Couldn't possibly be the soybeans and flaxseeds they're adding to EVERYTHING.
It is funny that this whole trans thing took off right after the kids got the jab. Not a peep before COVID. Just saying.
I've been monitoring the trans community chatter for 40 years... ask me anything
How has it changed over that time span? Do you believe it's a legit mental health condition in some people or do there seem to consistently be accompanying environmental/social/other factors?
well the big change is in the language.
they used to call themselves "trans-sexual" and now they say "trans-gender"
they have honed their propaganda game, in the same way as the homosexual community did,
for example, "homo-phobia" morphed into "trans-phobia"
their attitudes seem to have gotten more confrontational and militant.
they have circle-jerked themselves into believing all of their various slogans, such as
"trans women are real women"
they legit see straight men as being "oppressive" by "excluding" them from their dating pool.
they are famous for saying things like,
"if you don't want to date any particular trans girl, that fine... but if you don't want to date any trans girls at all, you should really stop and think about your transphobia"
like, they just don't seem to understand or accept that straight men are straight, and will not spend a moment entertaining the idea of dating a trans girl, when theres actual women available. they want you to think about how being straight excuses them, and how that should make you feel bad for them.
they seem to have asserted themselves into women's spaces, where they appear to have the motivation of voyeurism.
one notable incident involved a TIM (trans identifying male) inviting himself to a breastfeeding support group, and rationalized his unwanted presence in this group, by saying he needed to experience this kind of thing, to truly be a woman.
i do believe it is a mental condition.
so much so that i would not willingly associate with any trans person, knowing that the trans aspect of their personality is just the tip of the iceberg of toxic and crazy that lurks beneath the surface.
i have read all sorts of rationales.
one guy knew he was a female because he liked certain textures, like silk, and velvet, and lace, and satin.
one of their trans mantras is that "gender is a social construct",
and then we have this boy here who has a texture fetish, that he assumes only a female would have.
the entire medical field has gone crazy, trying to accommodate the crazy.
they no longer say "pregnant women", they say "pregnant people" to be more inclusive toward all of the men who keep getting pregnant.
how do men get pregnant, you ask?
oh its easy. you start with a person who was "assigned to be a female at birth". then you convince her that she is actually a man. and if she gets pregnant, then you tell her that men get pregnant.
and, because its coming from a doctor, it sounds reasonable.
of course men can get pregnant.
what doctor is going to want to argue with a pregnant person who insists they are a man?
they don't get paid enough to deal with that kind of shit.
so there are 2 aspects that should be considered.
theres the first aspect, where you don't really feel like the sex you were assigned at birth,
and theres theres the other aspect, which is they actually do feel like the opposite sex.
the idea of "feeling like" the opposite sex, is as cringe as a white man thinking he is black.
like, it would literally be impossible for you to experience life as the opposite sex, or another race, and here you are "appropriating" that experience,
... because you feel like it?
... because you are living life as your so-called "true self"?
i have a current working hypothesis that the CHO cells they use to make vaccines, cause causing an epidemic of PCOS in women. and because PCOS attacks the ovaries, it causes all kinds of hormonal problems for these women, namely that they start exhibiting male characteristics, such as facial hair, and/or male pattern balding.
i think there is also some munchausen by proxy going on.
for example, i know a family that got weirdly excited at the prospect of their young son growing up to be gay, because he was playing with dolls or some other activity that was "social constructed" to be a stereotypical female activity.
thank God he recently announced he has a girlfriend.
Can you describe the normalization of surgery as the best/only treatment? It seems there are remnants of disagreement there (it used to be you had to go through a lot of interviews and reviews before a surgery would be performed).
What happened to the disagreement? One of the earliest trans persons I was aware of was Dani Bunton and it seemed like they regretted the surgery (something to the effect of, I could have just worn dresses or something), though that may have been removed from the Internet now.
Do you see the pendulum swinging back towards non-surgical ways of helping people with the condition?
i suspect that the attempts to "normalize" surgeries goes way back to the Weimar Republic. supposedly the first books that the Nazi's or predecessors burned were from a gender clinic that was doing all kinds of experiments.
now recently it has come to my attention that quite a few males attempt to perform the surgeries on themselves, and wind up bleeding to death, in what is documented as a suicide, but what might actually be accidental. like, oops, i meant to cut off my own dick, but i didn't realize how much it would bleed.
i personally know a man who did cut is own dick off, and this was back in the 1970-80s. i suspect the way the medical establishment sees it, they can either help them cut their own dick off, or let them "commit suicide" by trying it themselves, but either way, the dick is coming off...
i suspect that doctors and psychologists just grew tired of arguing with the crazies who showed up in their office demanding their dicks be cut off, and just started fast-tracking them thru the process.
now it seems to be taboo, or even malpractice, to suspect there might be a mental health component to someones health care demands.
do i see the pendulum swing?
not yet. the trans "movement" seems to have been slowly gaining steam for at least the 40 years I've been paying attention. it was very incremental at first, and the public just seemed to not notice too much, but then with gay marriage etc, they decided it was time to push ahead with getting their narrative out in front of everyones face. unfortunately for them, i suspect that did actually come as the pendulum on gay rights issues started to swing back the other way.
also, i think the "males can become females" (and vise-versa) has been a difficult narrative to sell to the general public, much more so that "leave those lesbians alone. if they want to get married, let them". the trans narratives are a bit harder to sell, especially at a time when its a hot topic, and the trans activists themselves keep putting the issue up in front of an increasingly skeptical and hostile audience. polls show that support for trans rights is falling, which is a big surprise for trans rights activists who assumed that tif they could only make their case to the public, the public would see their point, and take their side.
so actually now that I'm done writing that, maybe the pendulum is started to swing back toward the center.
No, this started in 2016. Right after they shot that gorilla in the zoo, the next thing up was trans people starting with the bathrooms. This was going before convid.
In other news......vaccines turn children bi-curious
the existence of bisexuals implies homosexual activity is a choice, at least to some people.
bisexuality also implies there are only 2 sexes.
isn't it weird how theres a B for bisexual in LGBT, but yet we seldom actually hear from bisexuals?
because bisexual isn't inclusive enough,
they are thinking about updating it to try-sexual, as in, they will try anything
because most bi sexuals are women who screwed around with another female friend at a party one time. Both of those women will tell you they are bi sexual.
sorry, archive link in OP is bad. try this one instead. i can't edit OP
https://archive.ph/ibGDT
There is no link between vaccinations and queerness, medical experts told Insider. Still, these claims continue to spread on Telegram among QAnon conspiracy theorists who cited comments from Tabrizian, whose field of medical advice is considered a threat by Iranian health officials.
"There is certainly evidence that shows unvaccinated children are more likely to catch things like measles, but there is no relationship between vaccines or not being vaccinated and being queer or transgender," Dr. David Verhoeven, an expert in virology and professor of Vet Microbiology & Preventive Medicine at Iowa State University, told Insider.
Medical experts say there is no link between vaccinations and queerness Some of the claims say that the COVID-19 vaccines turn children queer or trans by somehow activating a recessive "queer" or "trans" gene passed down by the parents.
According to Verhoeven, this theory is false for multiple reasons, the first being the vaccines don't integrate into human DNA at all and only activate the body's immune system against the coronavirus.
"The only thing within the body that the vaccine 'turns on' is the immune system," Verhoeven said. "Since there is no 'gay gene' anyways, there is no connection between getting vaccinated for COVID or any other pathogen and 'turning' queer or transgender."
While researchers have tried for decades to find a specific gene that makes a person queer or transgender, no such gene has ever been found.
The other portion of the theory asserts the combination of the vaccine coupled with soy products in our food supply would lead to more children being queer or trans.
Again, Verhoeven said there is no evidence to back these claims, as certain East Asian communities have historically eaten many soy products with no disproportionate rates of queer or trans people.
"If we can stop looking at being queer or gay as some defect or disease that needs to be cured or prevented and just be accepting of diversity, society would certainly benefit," Verhoeven told Insider.
The QAnon community has played a major role in spreading COVID-19 misinformation
so, when i originally copy-pasted this article, from its reader format, all of the advertisements were replaced by the word "advertisement", and it became pretty evident what the content-to-advert format would be. so we get about 5 paragraphs of content, and the an advertisement...
no worries, we understand they have a business model, and bills to pay.
and this business model actually favors getting people to talk longer, or to be able to quote more of whatever they say, because if they can get another 4 paragraphs of content, they can sell another advertisement.
but getting these people to say more, sometimes backfires, like when we actually take the time to scrutinize and critique what they say.
so this "expert", Dr. David Verhoeven, an expert in virology and professor of Vet Microbiology & Preventive Medicine at Iowa State University, says
"There is certainly evidence that shows unvaccinated children are more likely to catch things like measles, but there is no relationship between vaccines or not being vaccinated and being queer or transgender,"
and how exactly would Verhoeven even know that?
has he read all of the relevant literature?
can he explain why the claim of "not finding the evidence" is commonly cited as actual evidence?
does Verhoeven believe he can "prove a negative" with a study?
example: if i can't find my keys, does that somehow imply my keys don't exist? or does it actually imply i haven't looked in the right place yet?
can Verhoeven cite anyone in this history of the world who has successfully used a "study" to "find the evidence" that any vaccine causes any problem?
because while "not finding the evidence" might sound exciting for an ignorant newcomer,
"not finding the evidence" has become tedious and tiresome to everyone else. we are to the point where your announcement of "not finding the evidence" is interpreted as "we aren't even looking".
so therefore, we aren't even listening to you anymore.
Verhoeven goes on to say theres no gay gene, which should be obvious, as any gene that made a person gay, would not be likely to be passed down from generation to generation.
but the real tell is this paragraph here:
he is straw-manning the argument.
he is deliberately misrepresenting the argument, and then arguing against that misrepresentation.
our actual argument is actually alluded to by Verhoeven, which is that it is the immune response that causes so many problems.
and if Verhoeven was interested in "finding the evidence", he might want to start by actually listening to the parents of vaccine-injured children.
but we all know Verhoeven will find every excuse in the book, to avoid exposing himself to ideas that are outside of his comfort zone.
Verhoeven will continue to bleat the mantra of peer reviewed synthetic data,
Verhoeven wil continue to have this kindergarten-level of understanding of how a vaccine works, like they inject you with a dead germ, and you have an immune response, and then your immune system knows what to do in future encounters.
while this model is useful for getting kindergartners to take their vaccines like a big boy...
its woefully inadequate in the clinical settings.
like, i would imagine that Verhoeven would see "redness and swelling" around the injection site, and still have his doubts that it was caused by vaccines.
and it is because people like Verhoeven are in a state of mind we call "denial", it is impossible to get thru to them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism
until Verhoeven can bring himself to admit that vaccines are capable of causing adverse reactions, he will forever be helpless to actually address the problems in any meaningful way.
for example, if Verhoeven is still in a state of denial about vaccines causing autism, how will he ever help to prevent even a single case of vaccine-induced autism?
the fact of the matter is, every vaccine causes an immune response to everything in the vaccine, not "just" the dead germs.
SV-40 the cancer virus is a good model for understanding how a single virus could spread to lots of people thru vaccine production methods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV40
and so it is the human DNA in vaccines, that causes pretty much every so-called "auto-immune" disease or disorder.
this stem-cell human DNA contains all of the information that is needed to unfold into an adult human,
and even if this human DNA is broken down into smaller strands, and becomes random "trace amounts" of human DNA, your immune system will still respond.
and depending on which random fragments of human DNA your immune system encounters, will determine which "random" into-immune disease you get.
so here we have Verhoeven spinning the narrative about gay genes not existing, when the elephant in the room is auto-immune disorders.
think about this for a moment.
why on earth would your immune system just randomly wake-up some morning and decide to attack some random part of your body?
why do some women wake up with PCOS at age 16?
why would your immune system randomly attack your ovaries at age 16?
why is it, that if you go into a PCOS group at Facebook, and search for "vaccine", you will find numerous examples of girls and women saying that they started having symptoms of PCOS soon after a vaccine.
and i can hear Verhoeven now, reciting the 5 mantras of the vaccine injury denier, which are:
coincidence
correlation
conspiracy theory
temporal
anecdotal