Ok this one is gonna be a little out there. 😉😎
So we know much of our history has been a lie. We know we don't really truly know what the past holds. Also most of us feel Christ working in this plan. So what is everyone's thoughts on the idea of the millennial reign of Christ already happening. And we are simply in the short season in which Satan reigns. Just waiting on the full coming of Christ.
Revelation says when Satan gets released he somehow tricks the world again. So if there was some previous reign, couldn't satan have already tricked the world into forgetting it.
I know this isn't a theory many follow, nor one many are willing to even entertain. However we are truth seekers here, and we go where ever that leads. So I thought it might be an interesting topic to atleast bring up for discussion. I personally have very mixed views on revelation as a whole. Imo I'm just gonna stick close to Christ and whatever happens happens..I personally believe that when it does go down it won't be something that large groups of people will say...see I told you.
The more we find out the more these theories seem plausible. We know the history they teach is a lie. Now we search for the truth.
Yep. Now we search for the truth indeed :)
Could Satan have ruled the world before, and then made humanity forget it?
Have you READ history?
Try Death by Government, by the late R. J. Rummel (and here's his website). The book was published in the 1980s and at that time Rummel had found 162 million government murders in the 20th century (that's IN ADDITION TO war); before his death a few years ago, his tally for 20th century government murder was 262 million or more. More than a quarter BILLION murders. From the book description at Amazon:
Rummel makes the point that several governments in the 20th century turned their nations into a literal Hell on Earth. He is clearly correct that POWER is the problem -- the power to coerce with impunity can NEVER be used without ultimately creating evil -- but he is clearly wrong that "democracy" is the long-term answer, as America's Founders understood. We are seeing THAT truth more clearly every day now.
Also consider The Black Book of Communism: Crimes Terror, Repression., written by a group of European leftists (most were actual Marxists). As with Rummel's book, the descriptions of widespread evil -- often depraved beyond belief -- inflicted on innocents is enough to keep one awake at night for months after reading. And (in both books) there are photos to make the experience even harsher.
Today's incipient Global Hell on Earth would be merely the latest and widest version to be imposed on innocent men, women, and children. Thank God for Trump, Q, the White Hats, the people on this board, and every other person and group world-wide working to oppose evil and to create a healthy world. May we prevail, and soon.
I'm confused what you are saying fren.
The question was could Christ has already had the millennial reign and Satan made the world forget it. Hence we are already in revelation, much further then people believe.
I agree with what you said about the evils. Just confused what you are getting at
And no I haven't read history. Is it good 😉😂
Sorry that line of yours made me chuckle. God bless you fren. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and the book. I look forward to hearing more about what you have to say
You're right, I didn't catch that on first reading, probably because throughout history, and certainly in modern times, I see, at best, mostly small and brief places and times where Christ's teachings were widely in evidence. To me, a thousand years of Christ's reign on Earth have not yet been in evidence. In individual people, and individual families, and in small villages, and perhaps in larger towns occasionally, and maybe even in larger regions sometimes, but that's all.
Individual PEOPLE and FAMLIES are healthy and loving, and sometimes larger gorups, but not the world as a whole.
Just my opinion.
And I miss-read that as well; I read the "previous reign" you mention there as a previous time when Satan had created a Hell on Earth and then made us forget it -- which is similar to what Rummel said happens with the many genocides; people, including those who STUDY such things, tend to do -- forget they happened.
My bad.
Your thoughts are interesting and like you (and most people, I think) I've always had mixed thoughts and feelings about Revelation. Even in Sunday School (a loooong time ago) I've always tended to see more of the Bible as allegory and metaphor than most people probably do, and Revelation is so OUT-THERE that it's been easy to dismiss. You won't be surprised that I'm seeing a lot more evidence today that the authors of that Chapter clearly had SOME knowledge or were able to foresee things based on human nature or whatever that are now coming to pass.
Don't say "God is the author" -- maybe, in a fashion, but Jim Jones and a million other malicious loonies say that God is speaking through them, so I am ever a skeptic on that idea.
"Sticking close to Christ" sounds like a good plan, no matter what.
Hey no worries fren glad we could clear that up..
So you seem like someone that can play around with an idea. So keep in mind I'm just sharing this theory. So the theory is that Satan eliminated all the evidence of his rain and warped history so much that we no longer even know it happened. So when you say you look around and see no evidence...the response would be because it all got changed. People use the pyramids, the beautiful churches and some of the other hard to explain things as some what a proof that there was something in the past that we lack.
So this theory says that we are now in the little season of Satan yet it's slowly coming to an end and that's the purpose of all this going on.
Yes I don't think we can really know any of these things for sure. Hence why I'm playing around with these thoughts and seeing what others think..we do know evil had changed so much, so it does kinda make sense they could change the past so much that we forget. Satan is sly.
Yes stick close to Christ is key. All else will be revealed as he sees fit. Thanks for the willingness to play around with this thought with me though fren. God WINS
I just re-read our exchange thread and am reminded of how often I launch into long diatribes and was impressed at how smoothly and appropriately you responded to this one. That's rare -- I suspect most people respond to any longish comment with MEGO, ("my eyes glaze over"), and pedes like you are a big reason this board is such an inviting and important resource. Thanks for the interaction, fren.
Aww fren thanks for the positive response. All glory to God. Truly it's a blessing to be here with you and I look forward to growing with you in Christ and learning these truth together. The best is yet to come. Thanks for the interaction as well.
It could have been, but God went for one of his famous course corrections. Possibly due to all of our prayers. 🙏🙏🙏
What do you mean by course corrections. Is that in reference to this movement?
Moses is a great example. And there are plenty where the Israelites went off track and started worshipping false gods.
This whole movement is part of the course correction.
So you see this movement as God simply changing his plans due to righteous prayers of saints. How do you think this ties into revelation
We are not in Revelation. We were headed there fast. Think Sodom and Gomorrah. What did God ask Abraham to find.
To find righteous people.
So what do you think the great awakening is leading to?;
Like once it all plays out how do you see the world
In the US it will be called the Golden Age of Trump that goes on for centuries. The major powers will all be at peace. The Middle East will be mostly at peace. Still a bunch of small bad actors though. A lot of countries will get their stuff together after throwing out the bad leaders. The Trump team is working to take out their puppet masters. I think you will see a significant Christian revival world wide. Enough to move things in the right direction.
I wish I was home so I could respond better. Phones suck.
Haha it's a fun topic and one I think very much challenges us all in ways that are good. I look forward to hearing your thoughts when you get a chance. Let's respond over here rather then PG..might be more free flowing here :)
A few years ago, I somehow came across "The Lost History of Earth" video. It made perfect sense that the MR already happened, and we are in Satan's Season. Everything started fitting together like never before, including Trump's mission and "the best is yet to come"...draining the evil swamp for a New Earth to emerge. Until I find anything contradictory, which I have not, I'm a believer!
I am having trouble finding the video you mentioned..would you be able to link it fren.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ul0e6lw130&pp=ygUfTG9zdCBoaXN0b3J5IG9mIGZsYXQgZWFydGggZXdhcg%3D%3D
Awesome thanks. Will watch this later today :)
Interesting. Would you be willing to share any more. Such as what fit together and maybe some things mentioned in the video. I will look for the video as well. I just enjoy human to human dialogue:)
If not I understand. I appreciate you sharing though. Yeah it's definitely an interesting rabbit hole and does have many things that make me curious. :) it's almost like the rabbit hole of all rabbit holes haha
God bless you fren.
This video is what really got me questioning everything I ever learned, and led me down so many rabbit holes, yearning to know more. (The torture of children and adrenochrome broke me and I didn't sleep for days. The video didn't go over this, but instead led me to uncovering more lies and truths, and this particular one was unbearable.) I grew up in the church and have read the Bible thru many times, but still had questions that never got satisfactory answers. We hear so much about being on the verge of a whole new world, medbeds, Nesara, etc. I couldn't reconcile those with waiting on the 2nd Coming. I prayed for the missing piece to make sense of it all. I immediately felt exhausted and fell asleep mid day. When I woke up, Rev 20 flashed in my mind, so I ran to get my Bible to see what it said. I had never read that verse in the past tense or ever heard of the concept, but as soon as I read it, I was excited. I remembered the video plainly showing how we've been lied to about history, so why wouldn't they deceive us about the 2nd Coming and MR and Satan's season. We'd expect that, right?! It gives me hope, and keeps me going.
Hi! I just wanted to share that I had a similar experience. I was always taught the futuristic viewpoint, but something always sat wrong in my spirit with it. A few months ago I was reading revelation again, and a strong sense came through that these events already happened. It’s something I can’t fully explain, it just felt true in that moment of reading. I didn’t really look into it further and put it down. I got some rest from it all, but then a few weeks ago I got that feeling in my spirit again. So I gave it up to God, and asked what is really going on. I woke up the next morning and the direction to read Rev 20. And I realized, there is really not much in there about satan’s short season. And I had a lot of questions. So I did some research which lead to some people talking about this is where we actually are in the timeline of things. And everything just started clicking. It almost felt like a heavy weight off my back. It’s been an interesting couple of weeks since then. I’ll have to check out that video you recommended, thanks!!
My faith tells me that Christ would not let all His people walk in that kind of darkness that long without messages of hope. The Intercessor, the Paraclete Holy Spirit inspired the prophets of the OT and those of the post-NT ages. It makes no sense that there would be utter silence from God.
Revelation talks about a little season of Satan. This theory says that we R currently in that season..not that God is utterly silent rather than God allowed Satan to deceive the world about the past. Meaning vast majority of people aren't aware of the truth.
The relationship with Jesus is still available and the Bible is still there so that would be the hope..the only difference would be where we stand in the story of revelation..
This is my attempt to summarize this theory people have.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying above so if willing would you expand please