My grandson was an eagle scout and like you I am abhorred by these actions...I had wonderful experiences as a Girl Scout, but then I read about some of the women's lib stances they push on the girls that should have nothing to do with the scouting program...so many good things have been destroyed by incorporating these radical, off the wall ideas...so sad...satan is alive and well, unfortunately...
In June 2022, Irene Taylor produced Leave No Trace: A Hidden History of the Boy Scouts, for Hulu and theatrical release, which examined the history of abuse and cover-ups in the organization.[75][76][77] In September 2023, Netflix released Scouts Honor: The Secret Files of the Boy Scouts of America.[78][79] Both documentaries make reference to the "perversion files".
As a current BSA Member, I do not agree with allowing females. Could care less about the name change. Our group is a Boy Troop with based leaders. I attend every campout, summer camp and am in leadership. They background check, I personally have done my own background check on every individual in the Troop. The program is a good one and teaches these kids leadership and self sufficiency through the Patrol Method. Yeah, they had issues with pedo fags in the past. I can tell you that I am proud that my Son wishes to achieve his Eagle Rank and enjoys our monthly outings. If I were not heavily involved, looking from the outside in. I would probably have the same opinion as others here. Everyone here by now should know, we Frogs are everywhere. Do your part in the places you go.
Because Feminists, Wokeists, and Liberals kept whining, protesting, and threatening Legal action.
As has happened with countless Clubs, Hobbies, Entertainment and Groups aimed specifically at and for Men. And much like before. The issues about the condition of BSA is only being brought up now. Because Calls are growing to demand Girl Scouts start allowing Boys in. So now society is pushing back.
Much like how the Trans stuff only really became an issue that people decided to take action on. The Minute it started affecting Women and Women’s sports and spaces.
Somewhat Ironically. If even a fraction of the energy people spent on losing their shit over things that affect Women was spent on ensuring Men had and maintained their own spaces, groups, and hobbies.
We’d probably solve a fair portion of the Trans issue as well. As while I don’t have evidence to back it up. I’d imagine a not insignificant portion of it is being driven by self-hating Men and Boys swallowing too much of the propaganda being pedaled in schools and popular media. Would it be any wonder why they’re so desperate to get their dick chopped off and get all sorts of hormones and drugs. If they’re made to feel repulsive and horrible for simply having the nerve to exist as a Man?
Frog, I have no answer for this insanity but according to some science circle, all this trans and things have to do with vaccines and also the chemical pumped into us (if you can believe such thing).
Go to Africa and live with the Masai, you will not find gay or trans or no such nonsense. Go to those places where people eat pure food and don't use a bunch of store bought chemical (toothpaste, shampoo, cosmetics....etc) and you will not find this problem.
Cannot say it 's all Psychological is what I am trying to say.
I’d put better odds of it being a mix of psychological issues, social contagion, and the Medical and Vaccine crap. Rather then it solely being from Vaccine crap. Irregardless of what the Science Nerds say.
And frankly having a space where men could talk and work through their problems with other men going through the same shit they are. Would probably reduce the numbers of them feeling it’s necessary to lop bits off and play pretend imaginary gender. Irregardless of whatever shit is in the Water and Food.
Men have a metric fuckload of problems. And there’s a definitive push on both sides of the aisle including in the alternative spheres. To do everything possible to avoid meaningfully discussing the problems, causes, and potential causes in their entirety. And instead find some boogeyman to place 100% of the blame on. Ala “It’s the Vaccines, It’s the chemicals in the water, etc” instead of acknowledging all the factors. Because to do otherwise would invite Socially and Politically inconvenient conversations.
The Trans crap is a symptom. And while it is possible to treat symptoms without addressing the root causes. Your only asking for the problems to manifest new symptoms if you do that.
TBH. Having thought about it. I’m willing to bet a few things.
The complete total refusal to talk about our problems in general with anyone including friends. Is at least partially a comparatively recent unspoken adaptation to Men’s social nets steadily shrinking in recent decades and becoming increasingly less close. From I wouldn’t hesitate to help this man bury a body or back him up in a fight if he asked. To we meet up for beers a few times a year and don’t talk about anything in particular.
Though I think there’s very much a lot of unspoken communication that goes on between men’s social groups. Though that’s purely from my outside observation of my father and his friends meeting up. One of them was diagnosed with terminal cancer. Hadn’t breathed a word of it to his buddies. Yet they knew something was up and pried it out of him after a few beers. They might be an exception, being particularly close and having grown up together, rather then a rule. I’m not sure on that front. I’m on the spectrum so I’m probably not approaching this correctly as I’m mostly talking from the perspective of observing people around me when I’m out doing stuff or at work.
There used to be Non-Masonic Fraternal Lodges and Orders. As well as various Men’s clubs, guilds, and associations out the wazoo at the turn of the 20th century. Including among the lower class working poor. While I can’t say for certain. I’d bet they served a purpose beyond simply being a place to network as is the typical explanation now. Or there likely wouldn’t have been so Damn many of them.
And it’s true Men don’t generally do the touchy feely directly talk about our problems/feelings kinda conversation. I worded it rather poorly when I said it that way. I was more so referring to just the unspoken support one could get from having people in the same boat you are to talk to. Just Average Joe trying to make his way in the world.
Even if it’s just talking about the weather, bitching about prices, getting advice about a hobby, or a DIY Home Improvement project or some other just trivial small talk kinda topic. Or even just the simple pleasure one could derive from having a place to belong to and visit that wasn’t explicitly related to one’s responsibilities at work, at church, or to their family.
I think church was also another club that serve a good purpose. I am glad you are summarizing this very beautifully. Just like I said, many do not want to talk about their problems no matter what.
My wife is from the Philippines and she told me that the Ladyboys pay boys to perform oral sex on the boy. The boy, in puberty and horny, has a snack fund and an orgasm. A lot easier than to convince a girl to spread her legs and then there's the snack...
I think many gay men became gay after such encounters. An easy/Lazy way to have sex. The memes about gays being created through molestation a lot of the time are true. This holds true in prison for many men too! Any hole will do.
That's an interesting thing your wife said. I have no knowledge of any of that, but I always subscribe to a chemical theory. I think a lot of the chemicals in our surroundings are turning people gay. Cannot be sure but if you live in countries where everything is not mass produced and processed, you hardly find such people.
Legoland doesn't let adults in who aren't bringing in kids because pedos flocked there. Same thing in the Lake Eola park in downtown Orlando. Basically a lake with a park all the way around it. Decades ago they had to close the bathrooms, and they also started sprinklers in the flower beds to keep homeless out of them to sleep. A somewhat gay area just east of the Down Town. They closed the bathrooms because the gays, the homeless, or the gay-homeless were waylaying little boys with glory holes.
North of Orlando Just north of Longwood is a wetlands area part of which is a Park called Big Tree Park, in an area across the highway there are nature trails and mountain bike trails, and now a bike/walk/run/skate trail. Also had major problems.
I'm not sure how pervasive similar situations are in other cities, but IMHO. When Disney first offered Insurance for live ins was the start of a huge increase in pedophelia in Central Fla. When Sheriff Grady Judd said there are always Disney employees mixed in every pedo ring he has busted, its not rhetoric...
They are the true pedo trafficking area. I am sure it was all intentional. I used to live on the west coast, but I was too blind to see much because the Pacific NW, there's not many kids except in their respective neighborhood. People there have more dogs than kids.
While regaining some sanity in the aftermath of the Storm will be true, it will take generations to fix the mess completely.
I'm a tough on crime minded person. I was happy when Fla (I grew up there) passed the law that Capital punishment for child rape, when Idaho became the second state to pass it, bravo! Now the state where I live, Tenn has also passed it, Heck Ya!
Not sure what the numbers are, but a huge portion of the gay community were molested, while a much smaller portion had a bad experience regarding hetrosexual sex, and gay of whatever flavor became the easy orgasim.
So to, start reducing that problem, we need fair but harsh justice.
There’s a lot of abuse in that organization so revamping after exposure of everything will be needed anyway. It’s infuriating how the DS has infected every thing that helps us be strong and independent! But how else do you destroy the people but to crush them when they are young.
There's a sinister aspect to the "Leave no Trace Behind' Motto... Many pedophiles aren't looking to be serviced, they prey on horny boys and there isn't physical damage.
As an eagle scout, I abandoned all support for them when they started down this path with allowing girls and gay scout leaders
My grandson was an eagle scout and like you I am abhorred by these actions...I had wonderful experiences as a Girl Scout, but then I read about some of the women's lib stances they push on the girls that should have nothing to do with the scouting program...so many good things have been destroyed by incorporating these radical, off the wall ideas...so sad...satan is alive and well, unfortunately...
I didn't think it's correct either.
Boy Scouts have already been ruined, in all likelihood always have been. Pedophiles go where the kids are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scouts_of_America_sex_abuse_cases#:~:text=James%20Hiatt%2C%20a%20former%20Boy,numerous%20times%20during%20his%20employment.
In June 2022, Irene Taylor produced Leave No Trace: A Hidden History of the Boy Scouts, for Hulu and theatrical release, which examined the history of abuse and cover-ups in the organization.[75][76][77] In September 2023, Netflix released Scouts Honor: The Secret Files of the Boy Scouts of America.[78][79] Both documentaries make reference to the "perversion files".
Oh yes, I know and remember the pedofiles in Boy Scout. They are trying to revamp and it won't work.
Pray for the Trail Life USA and American Heritage Girls organizations that they stay true.
Sorry, don't know them.
They're a split off of BSoA and GSoA attempting to stay Christian.
I like the last 2 words. Amen to that.
As a current BSA Member, I do not agree with allowing females. Could care less about the name change. Our group is a Boy Troop with based leaders. I attend every campout, summer camp and am in leadership. They background check, I personally have done my own background check on every individual in the Troop. The program is a good one and teaches these kids leadership and self sufficiency through the Patrol Method. Yeah, they had issues with pedo fags in the past. I can tell you that I am proud that my Son wishes to achieve his Eagle Rank and enjoys our monthly outings. If I were not heavily involved, looking from the outside in. I would probably have the same opinion as others here. Everyone here by now should know, we Frogs are everywhere. Do your part in the places you go.
I hope you can make sure it stay based. It just seems like when a certain entity get big, all kinds of shit happened with corruption and pedo.
Girl Scouts enter the chat in 3,2,1…
LOL
Because Feminists, Wokeists, and Liberals kept whining, protesting, and threatening Legal action.
As has happened with countless Clubs, Hobbies, Entertainment and Groups aimed specifically at and for Men. And much like before. The issues about the condition of BSA is only being brought up now. Because Calls are growing to demand Girl Scouts start allowing Boys in. So now society is pushing back.
Much like how the Trans stuff only really became an issue that people decided to take action on. The Minute it started affecting Women and Women’s sports and spaces.
Somewhat Ironically. If even a fraction of the energy people spent on losing their shit over things that affect Women was spent on ensuring Men had and maintained their own spaces, groups, and hobbies.
We’d probably solve a fair portion of the Trans issue as well. As while I don’t have evidence to back it up. I’d imagine a not insignificant portion of it is being driven by self-hating Men and Boys swallowing too much of the propaganda being pedaled in schools and popular media. Would it be any wonder why they’re so desperate to get their dick chopped off and get all sorts of hormones and drugs. If they’re made to feel repulsive and horrible for simply having the nerve to exist as a Man?
Frog, I have no answer for this insanity but according to some science circle, all this trans and things have to do with vaccines and also the chemical pumped into us (if you can believe such thing).
Go to Africa and live with the Masai, you will not find gay or trans or no such nonsense. Go to those places where people eat pure food and don't use a bunch of store bought chemical (toothpaste, shampoo, cosmetics....etc) and you will not find this problem.
Cannot say it 's all Psychological is what I am trying to say.
I’d put better odds of it being a mix of psychological issues, social contagion, and the Medical and Vaccine crap. Rather then it solely being from Vaccine crap. Irregardless of what the Science Nerds say.
And frankly having a space where men could talk and work through their problems with other men going through the same shit they are. Would probably reduce the numbers of them feeling it’s necessary to lop bits off and play pretend imaginary gender. Irregardless of whatever shit is in the Water and Food.
Men have a metric fuckload of problems. And there’s a definitive push on both sides of the aisle including in the alternative spheres. To do everything possible to avoid meaningfully discussing the problems, causes, and potential causes in their entirety. And instead find some boogeyman to place 100% of the blame on. Ala “It’s the Vaccines, It’s the chemicals in the water, etc” instead of acknowledging all the factors. Because to do otherwise would invite Socially and Politically inconvenient conversations.
The Trans crap is a symptom. And while it is possible to treat symptoms without addressing the root causes. Your only asking for the problems to manifest new symptoms if you do that.
Good summary.
You also know that most men don't like to talk about their problems no matter which kind, right?
TBH. Having thought about it. I’m willing to bet a few things.
Though I think there’s very much a lot of unspoken communication that goes on between men’s social groups. Though that’s purely from my outside observation of my father and his friends meeting up. One of them was diagnosed with terminal cancer. Hadn’t breathed a word of it to his buddies. Yet they knew something was up and pried it out of him after a few beers. They might be an exception, being particularly close and having grown up together, rather then a rule. I’m not sure on that front. I’m on the spectrum so I’m probably not approaching this correctly as I’m mostly talking from the perspective of observing people around me when I’m out doing stuff or at work.
And it’s true Men don’t generally do the touchy feely directly talk about our problems/feelings kinda conversation. I worded it rather poorly when I said it that way. I was more so referring to just the unspoken support one could get from having people in the same boat you are to talk to. Just Average Joe trying to make his way in the world.
Even if it’s just talking about the weather, bitching about prices, getting advice about a hobby, or a DIY Home Improvement project or some other just trivial small talk kinda topic. Or even just the simple pleasure one could derive from having a place to belong to and visit that wasn’t explicitly related to one’s responsibilities at work, at church, or to their family.
I think church was also another club that serve a good purpose. I am glad you are summarizing this very beautifully. Just like I said, many do not want to talk about their problems no matter what.
Over 80,000 claimants in the lawsuit and 1,000 perps (I'm sure it was much worse) trailer 1 https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2597831193/?ref_=tt_vi_i_1
It's so sad to see this. I asked some of our friends who were scouts and leaders for the scouts and they did not witness anything.
I am sure some won't tell.
My wife is from the Philippines and she told me that the Ladyboys pay boys to perform oral sex on the boy. The boy, in puberty and horny, has a snack fund and an orgasm. A lot easier than to convince a girl to spread her legs and then there's the snack...
I think many gay men became gay after such encounters. An easy/Lazy way to have sex. The memes about gays being created through molestation a lot of the time are true. This holds true in prison for many men too! Any hole will do.
That's an interesting thing your wife said. I have no knowledge of any of that, but I always subscribe to a chemical theory. I think a lot of the chemicals in our surroundings are turning people gay. Cannot be sure but if you live in countries where everything is not mass produced and processed, you hardly find such people.
Legoland doesn't let adults in who aren't bringing in kids because pedos flocked there. Same thing in the Lake Eola park in downtown Orlando. Basically a lake with a park all the way around it. Decades ago they had to close the bathrooms, and they also started sprinklers in the flower beds to keep homeless out of them to sleep. A somewhat gay area just east of the Down Town. They closed the bathrooms because the gays, the homeless, or the gay-homeless were waylaying little boys with glory holes.
North of Orlando Just north of Longwood is a wetlands area part of which is a Park called Big Tree Park, in an area across the highway there are nature trails and mountain bike trails, and now a bike/walk/run/skate trail. Also had major problems.
I'm not sure how pervasive similar situations are in other cities, but IMHO. When Disney first offered Insurance for live ins was the start of a huge increase in pedophelia in Central Fla. When Sheriff Grady Judd said there are always Disney employees mixed in every pedo ring he has busted, its not rhetoric...
They are the true pedo trafficking area. I am sure it was all intentional. I used to live on the west coast, but I was too blind to see much because the Pacific NW, there's not many kids except in their respective neighborhood. People there have more dogs than kids.
While regaining some sanity in the aftermath of the Storm will be true, it will take generations to fix the mess completely.
I'm a tough on crime minded person. I was happy when Fla (I grew up there) passed the law that Capital punishment for child rape, when Idaho became the second state to pass it, bravo! Now the state where I live, Tenn has also passed it, Heck Ya!
Not sure what the numbers are, but a huge portion of the gay community were molested, while a much smaller portion had a bad experience regarding hetrosexual sex, and gay of whatever flavor became the easy orgasim.
So to, start reducing that problem, we need fair but harsh justice.
Thank you. I like the tough on crime also. If adults want to do something, they are welcome to it (none of my business).
Now, kids, different story.
There’s a lot of abuse in that organization so revamping after exposure of everything will be needed anyway. It’s infuriating how the DS has infected every thing that helps us be strong and independent! But how else do you destroy the people but to crush them when they are young.
Target the young is the MOST effective way.
There's a sinister aspect to the "Leave no Trace Behind' Motto... Many pedophiles aren't looking to be serviced, they prey on horny boys and there isn't physical damage.
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I can see how this motto would have double meaning. Good analysis on that.