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Report from the trenches, Cashless Sweden (media.greatawakening.win) 🔍 Notable
posted 2 years ago by WestCelt 2 years ago by WestCelt +204 / -0
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– John_6_29 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Won't let you cash out? That sounds like theft.

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– NoticingLoicense 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Tho everyone should recognize that cash is still fiat, just a printed version of the same ponzi scheme the banks operate. To actually "cash out" you need something with actual value, like gold or bitcoin.

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– redtoe-skipper 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Peculiar. I was in Sweden and payment with cash was totally tippie top.

But, IF you only have a bank account then you will be screwed. Get a crypto account with a prepaid card connected to it. You are free to go. You can even get an IBAN connected to it in Switserland.

Fuck the banking system!

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– Space_Monkey 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Your prepaid crypto card is custodial too. Unless you set up your own wallet and use it directly it is just as controlled as the banking system.

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– redtoe-skipper 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

There is one corrorally indeed, to fund it from a different location (wallet) and keep the majority of the funds decentral.

It is all about risk analysis and remediation.

O and the best thing: trigger sellers to accept crypto. Either by using a quick and cheap system peer to peer, or with a P.O.S.

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– NoticingLoicense 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That's the fine thing about crypto tho, it works just like cash. You don't have to carry your mattress around at all time with millions in your life savings, you only carry what you need and what you can afford to lose. I.e only transfer a small amount to the custodial wallet before you go shopping.

With this method you can even use multiple cards and might have a chance to pay still if one of the exchanges or card processors are down.

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– Space_Monkey 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's all good if you wanna do it that way, but the card account is still:

  • custodial
  • treated as a capital gain/loss when you buy something
  • can be frozen/seized and traced back to you
  • from that account they can trace any funding sources, so they will know your other wallets too.
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– NoticingLoicense 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Beats bank accounts monopolies when society goes cashless. Nobody wants a cashless society but unfortunately it's inevitable because banks have monopoly on cash.

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– Space_Monkey 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's fine, I agree. People should just understand what they are getting into and not just assume because some new banking service uses crypto that it isn't just as scummy.

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– NoticingLoicense 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

True, "crypto banks" are just as scummy as fiat banks.

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– Dark_Shroud 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

We're almost there with the digital wallet apps being able to make NFC payments.

Until then I have a coinbase debit card that I use on the regular. Coinbase accounts can also accepts direct deposits. So they're one of the better middle men for the moment.

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– Dark_Shroud 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I'm in the US so I use a Credit Union and Coinbase for crypto.

Coinbase can also accept direct deposits.

There are a few options out there. People just have to use them.

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– redtoe-skipper 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

coinbase is central. = high risk. Go decentral. And make sure you have burner addresses on monero and Kiiro

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– NoticingLoicense 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

You don't put everything there, only what you plan to spend in the next few hours. Just like with cash.

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– Dark_Shroud 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah this seems lost on people at times.

I don't know of any wallet apps that support direct payments yet.

So that leaves Coinbase and Bitpay.

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– NoticingLoicense 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They all do, problem is that many merchants don't accept native crypto payments yet. Although more are starting to every day. 👌

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– AmberWins 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I've had people try and tell me they don't take cash but by the time I walked out my money was sitting on their counter.

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– Standingoak 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Nothing like counting/checking the bag before you pay. "....for All Debts Public and Private

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– Geralt-1776 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Better buy some Bitcoin

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– NoticingLoicense 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This is he correct solution. 👆

You'll save a lot of money by using this strategy, plus that crypto debit cards works everywhere in Europe and you can even pay your utility bills with card, there's really no need for a bank nowadays.

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– outsideop 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Sue, your Australians gave up their guns willingly. Shut the fuck up.

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– Saltyarmyanon 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Not just Sweden. Denmark their neighbor has same system where you once a week have to answer invasive questions to unlock access to your account or they could confiscate it. Your bank access is directly linked to mandatory “citizen account” controlled by the government. I had a bank account here for years and it was an absolute nightmare as some of the questions I was not able to answer since I don’t live there anymore. It got to the point where I just decided to close the account all together. Now I hear that people have to disclose what they need money for when asking for a withdrawal.

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– NoticingLoicense 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It depends on bank too, Sweden has 6 major banks, ironically the worst ones, i.e those that harass their customers the most are also the ones getting caught for money laundering all the time, we're talking billions of dollars. Often benefiting countries that are considering enemies of NATO such as Iran, North Korea, Russia and so on. These banks are the definition of evil who don't hesitate to kill thousands of people just to hide the truth of their shady business practices.

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– Standingoak 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

What part of :

"as if I was living under dictatorship and being treated like a criminal."

Is unclear ?

“The best slave is the one who thinks he is free.”― Johann von Goethe

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– Luminescent 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I'm about to start contracting heavily again, what do you think is a fair discount for cash, silver or BTC? I was thinking 20%...

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– Aussie_Lurker 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Not sure if this will work for you. I charge customers using a card EXTRA, works great for me.

Good luck with it.

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– Gotrek 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Ohh no you got asked questions… tell the teller it’s none of her fucking business and close your account. If they want to boss you around fight bavk

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– usernametaken4 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

As Americans are blindly and happily getting "points" for spending and being lured with that to spend more on credit cards....

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