I've seen a lot of flight logs, and I've never seen one that neat. It's not always the same pen, you're not always the same amount of tired, sometimes the pen doesn't start flowing ink instantly. Looks too consistent to me, like it was transcribed rather than written as the flights occurred.
Devils advocate here. If I was blackmailing the rich and famous using a private island, I’d make sure, and pay extra to make sure, my flight logs were legible.
My overall point being that sure, it could mean it’s a fake for whatever reason. Or if it’s genuine, in my opinion, it’s just more proof of the efforts Epstein went to try and blackmail Trump, without him succeeding to. If Trump worked with slimy characters in NYC real estate for his whole life, I doubt Epstein and whoever piloted him was the first person(s) to try and blackmail him. I honestly think Trump used him for free plane rides while managing to not get blackmailed, the sort of thing he’s great at, turning the tables and using malicious intent against him for his own benefit, it’s a truly impressive trained skill of his.
Epstein was making trips to Little St James all the way back to 1990. Little St James was owned by someone named Arch Cummins, who doesn't appear to exist. The only mention of Arch Cummins is from a movie where the character is a CIA operative.
I'm pretty sure these documents are fake, but I did a deep deep dive finding everything Trump has said about Epstein, and he changed his story a few times about riding on his plane and going to the island. Maxwell said during her trial that Trump brought his kids to the island twice, these documents show that, so I just don't know anymore.
Palm Beach International to New York? That ain't the "Island" and people hopping on other PJs happens all the time when planes are not available due to maintenance.
So, Trump and little Eric flew from Mar-a-Lago back to New Jersey to their New York home on Epstein's plane when Trump's own plane was being serviced? I remember Trump telling us he did that.
This was also about 9 years before Trump banned Epstein and his 'girl recruiters' from Mar-a-Lago after he learned they were trying to recruit the teenage towel girls into the massage business.
I finally looked through the whole logs I posted, Trump and young Eric are on there 7 times between 1993 and 1997. Most were FL to NJ, but a few went to Bahamas.
I don't think it's fake. Trump and Epstein had a rapport before Trump threw him out of Mar a Lago.
Not everyone Epstein had associated with at some point in his life is suspect, and if they really had more than a stupid talking point on Trump they'd have thrown it already.
They don't, because this is simply what happens when you have a private jet and want to gain some influence.
I agree is sketchy, but my friend has his own small plane and for his logs he has this metal clipboard thing with a pen built into it, so he uses the same pen every time because it's right there.
Understood: ink could be the same. Handwriting will vary, regardless, unless you're an old school engineer who hand details designs and whose lettering is REQUIRED to be near perfect and consistent. My lettering sucks, thank God for computer software.
Paperwork says that Little St james was bought by Epstein from Arch Cummins in 1998. There is ZERO evidence anyone named Arch Cummins ever existed. The only mention of Arch Cummins anywhere is from the movie The Good Shepherd where the character named Arch Cummins was a CIA operative.
Epstein bought the island for 8 million, it was valued at 45 million at the time.
If you look at the deed for the island, Arch Cummins owned the island from 1917 to 1998 which is 81 years. 1917 was also the year the US claimed ownership of the island and took it over.
Can you link where he said this, because I've only ever seen him deny ever getting on Epsteins plane like he did on Hannity a few times and on Truth Social in January. The thing I'm posting from has him on the plane 7 times between 1993 and 1997, three times going to the bahamas and Miami.
Well if he said it, he probably knows. I was thinking he said he hitched a ride but maybe someone SAID he hitched a ride. I know if he did, it will come out and I don't think he would say anything that could be proven a lie!!
Paperwork says that Little St james was bought by Epstein from Arch Cummins in 1998. There is ZERO evidence anyone named Arch Cummins ever existed. The only mention of Arch Cummins anywhere is from the movie The Good Shepherd where the character named Arch Cummins was a CIA operative.
Epstein bought the island for 8 million, it was valued at 45 million at the time.
If you look at the deed for the island, Arch Cummins owned the island from 1917 to 1998 which is 81 years. 1917 was also the year the US claimed ownership of the island and took it over.
I've seen a lot of flight logs, and I've never seen one that neat. It's not always the same pen, you're not always the same amount of tired, sometimes the pen doesn't start flowing ink instantly. Looks too consistent to me, like it was transcribed rather than written as the flights occurred.
BINGO...the DS (dip shits) are "trying" to tie PDJT to Epstein...OHHHH MY...What Will they DO?????
100% Agree.
Devils advocate here. If I was blackmailing the rich and famous using a private island, I’d make sure, and pay extra to make sure, my flight logs were legible.
If you've seen the others, this is clearly an anomaly.
My overall point being that sure, it could mean it’s a fake for whatever reason. Or if it’s genuine, in my opinion, it’s just more proof of the efforts Epstein went to try and blackmail Trump, without him succeeding to. If Trump worked with slimy characters in NYC real estate for his whole life, I doubt Epstein and whoever piloted him was the first person(s) to try and blackmail him. I honestly think Trump used him for free plane rides while managing to not get blackmailed, the sort of thing he’s great at, turning the tables and using malicious intent against him for his own benefit, it’s a truly impressive trained skill of his.
Agree was gonna say all that but I did it for me.
FYI people: Epstein didn’t by little st James until 1998.
He denied ever being on the plane a TON of times: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111727606183781019
Epstein was making trips to Little St James all the way back to 1990. Little St James was owned by someone named Arch Cummins, who doesn't appear to exist. The only mention of Arch Cummins is from a movie where the character is a CIA operative.
I'm pretty sure these documents are fake, but I did a deep deep dive finding everything Trump has said about Epstein, and he changed his story a few times about riding on his plane and going to the island. Maxwell said during her trial that Trump brought his kids to the island twice, these documents show that, so I just don't know anymore.
That being said, these do look fake.
Epstein bought the island in 1998.
Exactly my point.
Yes. Lending private jets to friends and associates with influence isn't even unheard of. The destination and frequency is what matters.
Palm Beach International to New York? That ain't the "Island" and people hopping on other PJs happens all the time when planes are not available due to maintenance.
Yeah it’s known he flew to New York with Epstein when Epstein belonged to Maralago before Trump kicked him out.
Yep PBI to Teterboro in NJ.
From: PBI = Palm Beach International Airport
To: TEB = Teterboro Airport in New Jersey
So, Trump and little Eric flew from Mar-a-Lago back to New Jersey to their New York home on Epstein's plane when Trump's own plane was being serviced? I remember Trump telling us he did that.
This was also about 9 years before Trump banned Epstein and his 'girl recruiters' from Mar-a-Lago after he learned they were trying to recruit the teenage towel girls into the massage business.
I finally looked through the whole logs I posted, Trump and young Eric are on there 7 times between 1993 and 1997. Most were FL to NJ, but a few went to Bahamas.
Epstein bought the island in 1998.
Have we ever heard from any of the pilots who wrote these logs about who was on those planes and where they went?
Yeah, the main pilot is testifying at the Maxwell trial soon.
Easily proven false. Then sue.
I'm betting MSM and CNN have already proven with experts and people close to the situation this is indeed true.
I don't think it's fake. Trump and Epstein had a rapport before Trump threw him out of Mar a Lago.
Not everyone Epstein had associated with at some point in his life is suspect, and if they really had more than a stupid talking point on Trump they'd have thrown it already.
They don't, because this is simply what happens when you have a private jet and want to gain some influence.
Day to day, flight to flight ... no way the handwriting would be so consistent. Also ... same pen? Same color? Gimme a break.
I agree is sketchy, but my friend has his own small plane and for his logs he has this metal clipboard thing with a pen built into it, so he uses the same pen every time because it's right there.
Understood: ink could be the same. Handwriting will vary, regardless, unless you're an old school engineer who hand details designs and whose lettering is REQUIRED to be near perfect and consistent. My lettering sucks, thank God for computer software.
Here's the whole thing, the news article I saw said Trump was on it 17 times ... hmm
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell
Did you even bother to check as to when Epstein bought the island?
Here's a rabbit hole for you.
Paperwork says that Little St james was bought by Epstein from Arch Cummins in 1998. There is ZERO evidence anyone named Arch Cummins ever existed. The only mention of Arch Cummins anywhere is from the movie The Good Shepherd where the character named Arch Cummins was a CIA operative.
Epstein bought the island for 8 million, it was valued at 45 million at the time.
If you look at the deed for the island, Arch Cummins owned the island from 1917 to 1998 which is 81 years. 1917 was also the year the US claimed ownership of the island and took it over.
Those logs were manufactured all at once. they look like someone copied someone's homework.
They came out Monday at the Maxwell trial.
Gonna need some sauce for that maxwell trial from Monday.
It's all over the place, just search
I did, didn’t see a single mention of it.
Which maxwell trial?
https://communities.win/c/GreatAwakening/p/17tL1Zwg2C/deep-state-is-desperate--they-re/c/4ZBKpV6508n
Fake. Doesn't look anything like the other leaked pages.
Trump said he hitched a ride once----Palm Beach to New Jersey.
Can you link where he said this, because I've only ever seen him deny ever getting on Epsteins plane like he did on Hannity a few times and on Truth Social in January. The thing I'm posting from has him on the plane 7 times between 1993 and 1997, three times going to the bahamas and Miami.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111727606183781019
I can't remember. He said he never went to the Island but did hitch a ride. Been years ago.
He posted on Truth that he's never been on the plane in January of this year.
Well if he said it, he probably knows. I was thinking he said he hitched a ride but maybe someone SAID he hitched a ride. I know if he did, it will come out and I don't think he would say anything that could be proven a lie!!
I linked to Trump's statement in another comment
I take your word for it. I am glad he did not fly on it.
Dude, Epstein didn’t buy little st James until 1998. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Saint_James,_U.S._Virgin_Islands
Yeah, you commented this three times:
Here's a rabbit hole for you.
Paperwork says that Little St james was bought by Epstein from Arch Cummins in 1998. There is ZERO evidence anyone named Arch Cummins ever existed. The only mention of Arch Cummins anywhere is from the movie The Good Shepherd where the character named Arch Cummins was a CIA operative.
Epstein bought the island for 8 million, it was valued at 45 million at the time.
If you look at the deed for the island, Arch Cummins owned the island from 1917 to 1998 which is 81 years. 1917 was also the year the US claimed ownership of the island and took it over.
Dude, it’s been 4 days since you posted this. I expected a response before now. Here is a case involving Arch and his former wife. https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ny-supreme-court-appellate-division/1227187.html
I'm sorry I don't spend 24 hours a day on this website. I own three businesses and travel a lot for work, so maybe settle down a little bit?
Want to go even deeper? Look at who owned St James before the US took it over. His name was Julius Colberg, go have a search of that.
Also, why is there a single divorce case, but no marriage records, no birth records ...
Maybe open your eyes a bit and have a look around.
No link to the deed that you keep going on about?
Did you do a basic search? It is easy to find, I'm not going to spoonfeed someone who is being so rude and demanding and lives online.
Maybe it’s because you’re misspelling the last name. Got a link for the little st James title deed history?