That is just false reasoning.
More empty space does not equal more chances of there being other life forms.
Plus at some point the vastness of space would mean it no longer matters if there is life out there. There would be no way to make contact. Unless there was some sort of extra dimensional travel.
Then we are right back to Haven and Hell.
This isn't supposed to be complicated. Maybe stretch your thinking this way:
The bigger the universe, the more room for galaxies; the more galaxies, the more stars; the more stars, the more planets; the more planets, the more chance of there being some with the ideal conditions for, say, carbon-based intelligent life. It's rare to get the entire set of all those conditions. But there are also trillions of galaxies.
The odds of our "finding" these planets and their inhabitants are separate from and lower than the odds of their existence, which are virtually 100% IMHO.
It is they who have found us.
And, considering that some civilizations may be millions or billions of years more advanced than our own, it's not a stretch to consider that they've figured out non-linear travel by now. Maybe even how to get from A to B instantaneously. (There's no need to move at the speed of light when you're not covering linear distances. Plus, the ability to travel at the speed of light isn't even any great help when the galaxy you want to visit is 50,000 or 100,000 light years away.)
Okay, so we are talking about some kind of extra dimensional travel.
That is exactly what I was talking about.
Just because I believe there is a God does not mean I believe in religion.
Religion is just a box that has been created to control the idea of God.
If God is real as I believe and Jesus is the son of God I have no choice but to believe there is a way to instantly travel from one point to another.
If God is real as I believe and Jesus is the son of God I have no choice but to believe there is a way to instantly travel from one point to another.
I'm not labeling this 'faulty logic' just because I don't get the connection
We must be operating in two different logical paradigms
I'm not an atheist, but in the logical paradigm I'm using, an atheist could say 'Even though I don't believe in an invisible Sky Guy who grants wishes and sired a human child via a talking bird and used a virgin's womb for gestation, I could believe there is a way to instantly travel from one point to another.'
But the vastness of space makes it much more likely that there will BE other life forms to find...or to find US.
That is just false reasoning. More empty space does not equal more chances of there being other life forms. Plus at some point the vastness of space would mean it no longer matters if there is life out there. There would be no way to make contact. Unless there was some sort of extra dimensional travel. Then we are right back to Haven and Hell.
This isn't supposed to be complicated. Maybe stretch your thinking this way:
The bigger the universe, the more room for galaxies; the more galaxies, the more stars; the more stars, the more planets; the more planets, the more chance of there being some with the ideal conditions for, say, carbon-based intelligent life. It's rare to get the entire set of all those conditions. But there are also trillions of galaxies.
The odds of our "finding" these planets and their inhabitants are separate from and lower than the odds of their existence, which are virtually 100% IMHO.
It is they who have found us.
And, considering that some civilizations may be millions or billions of years more advanced than our own, it's not a stretch to consider that they've figured out non-linear travel by now. Maybe even how to get from A to B instantaneously. (There's no need to move at the speed of light when you're not covering linear distances. Plus, the ability to travel at the speed of light isn't even any great help when the galaxy you want to visit is 50,000 or 100,000 light years away.)
Okay, so we are talking about some kind of extra dimensional travel. That is exactly what I was talking about.
Just because I believe there is a God does not mean I believe in religion. Religion is just a box that has been created to control the idea of God. If God is real as I believe and Jesus is the son of God I have no choice but to believe there is a way to instantly travel from one point to another.
I'm not labeling this 'faulty logic' just because I don't get the connection
We must be operating in two different logical paradigms
I'm not an atheist, but in the logical paradigm I'm using, an atheist could say 'Even though I don't believe in an invisible Sky Guy who grants wishes and sired a human child via a talking bird and used a virgin's womb for gestation, I could believe there is a way to instantly travel from one point to another.'