I hope it's soon! I'm on Short Term Disability and I don't want to have to go back to work.
I'd love to call in and tell them "Today's my last day, I'm calling in retired!"
I like the people I work with so I won't be shitting on the boss's desk. Although I might have made my last boss Rick of Spades himself. JK, but he was an ass.
Yeah. What I’m saying is that I don’t see how “covered” shorts aren’t made-up stocks as well.
Fidelity loans 10 shares from Customer A to Hedgie B. Hedgie B sells them to Investor C.
At this point, even though Fidelity “owns” the covers for the 10 shares, there are technically 20 shares outstanding as Customer A still “owns” his shares at Fidelity. If Customer A sells those shares, Fidelity is obligated to buy 10 more shares to cover to prevent FTD, but that doesn’t change that there are still 20 shares instead of 10.
Even once the short is closed out, how do those additional 10 shares stop existing?
Am I missing something here? Basically what’s the destructive process for the 10 shares that don’t exist after the short is closed, and how are there not 2x as many shares for sure while it’s open?
Imo there is no valid justification for short sales other than price manipulation. Full stop.
Right, I think my concern is for those who have cheated the system from the beginning why are we to think they will all fall into line and play by the rules. Who controls the price of the stock? Supply demand, market makers...again lots of grey area there.
However, with that being said if WH are in control then putting my stock in them. If they arn't, then nothing has changed and we are in same plight we've always been in.
In the end I do think MOASS will happen but as its been stated "timing is everything" so I believe it will come when we least expect it.
There are so many references to watching a movie. Good guys win when all seems lost; maybe MOASS will happen when we least expect it too.
Oh, I absolutely agree. I'm not one for manipulating a company through their stocks in any way or any type of manipulation. They've made the process so complicated for smooth brains, they are basically able to do whatever they want. That should not be happening. My apologies if I sounded as if I thought shorting was okay, I was just sharing the "definitions"
I am watching people who live in the shadows step forward.
I am watching the entire system collapse because everyone in any position of power stick their hand out for a bribes.
America's retirement and pensions funds are on the short side of this trade.
when this goes, it's going to be epic
these rich assholes are threatening to burn the world if we don't walk away.
here is the match and we are dumping gasoline. fucking burn it you pussy billionaires or capitulate. today I have things to lose. tomorrow my children will have nothing. you know what. fuck it. it's either we have nothing or all of us have nothing. when I find you rich fucks in the street after this collapse begging for help, you will wish you jumped from your ivory tower. your unground bunkers, I hope someone backs the exhaust of a diesel truck to the fresh air intake.
Cancelcoclo provides much better info and a rabbit hole. This is "only" 7 mins but the "epic battle" background music and robogenerated "old wojak" make it an insufferable watch
Q disappeared in December 2020, after posting for a few years.
On 6/24/22 Q suddenly reappeared after more than a year and half of silence, with a drop that merely said "Shall we play a game once more?"
What else happened that same day, on 6/24/22? Congress released its report on GameStop, which concluded that 226% of GameStop's shares were shorted.
If you haven't realized that the GameStop saga is one leg of the Q plan, then you haven't been paying attention.
u/#q4954
God bless you APE!
I hope it's soon! I'm on Short Term Disability and I don't want to have to go back to work.
I'd love to call in and tell them "Today's my last day, I'm calling in retired!"
I like the people I work with so I won't be shitting on the boss's desk. Although I might have made my last boss Rick of Spades himself. JK, but he was an ass.
They'll never come right out and say it, "We create shares out of thin air, backed by vapor."
A soon to be a multi trillion-dollar hole none of them with be able to cover.
If someone can correct me on this, I’m all ears, but isn’t shorting a stock effectively hypothecating new shares into existence?
How is it any different than diluting the stock without a single check or balance?
It looks like it’s every bit as fraudulent as how the federal reserve works to “create” “our” money.
Shorts are borrowed stock from someone else, so they are actual stocks. Naked shorts are made up stock, that's why they are illegal or supposed to be.
Yeah. What I’m saying is that I don’t see how “covered” shorts aren’t made-up stocks as well.
Fidelity loans 10 shares from Customer A to Hedgie B. Hedgie B sells them to Investor C.
At this point, even though Fidelity “owns” the covers for the 10 shares, there are technically 20 shares outstanding as Customer A still “owns” his shares at Fidelity. If Customer A sells those shares, Fidelity is obligated to buy 10 more shares to cover to prevent FTD, but that doesn’t change that there are still 20 shares instead of 10.
Even once the short is closed out, how do those additional 10 shares stop existing?
Am I missing something here? Basically what’s the destructive process for the 10 shares that don’t exist after the short is closed, and how are there not 2x as many shares for sure while it’s open?
Imo there is no valid justification for short sales other than price manipulation. Full stop.
Right, I think my concern is for those who have cheated the system from the beginning why are we to think they will all fall into line and play by the rules. Who controls the price of the stock? Supply demand, market makers...again lots of grey area there.
However, with that being said if WH are in control then putting my stock in them. If they arn't, then nothing has changed and we are in same plight we've always been in. In the end I do think MOASS will happen but as its been stated "timing is everything" so I believe it will come when we least expect it. There are so many references to watching a movie. Good guys win when all seems lost; maybe MOASS will happen when we least expect it too.
Oh, I absolutely agree. I'm not one for manipulating a company through their stocks in any way or any type of manipulation. They've made the process so complicated for smooth brains, they are basically able to do whatever they want. That should not be happening. My apologies if I sounded as if I thought shorting was okay, I was just sharing the "definitions"
Not at all, was just clarifying that my opinion applies to both types of shorts.
Hard to suddenly realize you can't win a crooked game....unless you don't play.
wtf is going on?
I am watching people who live in the shadows step forward.
I am watching the entire system collapse because everyone in any position of power stick their hand out for a bribes.
America's retirement and pensions funds are on the short side of this trade.
when this goes, it's going to be epic
these rich assholes are threatening to burn the world if we don't walk away.
here is the match and we are dumping gasoline. fucking burn it you pussy billionaires or capitulate. today I have things to lose. tomorrow my children will have nothing. you know what. fuck it. it's either we have nothing or all of us have nothing. when I find you rich fucks in the street after this collapse begging for help, you will wish you jumped from your ivory tower. your unground bunkers, I hope someone backs the exhaust of a diesel truck to the fresh air intake.
America is a business, now fucking pay me!
Bankruptcy is a Bitch......Pills or Windows for them this time around ? Either way Freedom but not paid.
Nah - “you will own nothing and you will be happy” [assuming you are one of the 500 million allowed to still be alive . . .]
Cancelcoclo provides much better info and a rabbit hole. This is "only" 7 mins but the "epic battle" background music and robogenerated "old wojak" make it an insufferable watch
Wen moon?