Yes but the 10 commandments are still the character of God, they will never become outdated. Only the need to follow for salvation/holiness had been altered by Jesus’ death. The purpose of the Law is to condemn, so having knowledge of the Law allows non believers to see where they fall short and need a savior. Without that we have a sinful society that doesn’t acknowledge sin.
That scripture is speaking of the covenant regarding Jewish ceremonial laws, not the moral laws given by God to Moses. If you read Hebrews chapter 9 it details exactly what the old covenant was and the new covenant that replaces it is. Gods moral laws are timeless and as a Christian you are still expected to obey them. Calling Christ your savior is not a free pass to willingly live in sin. The preaching of the law of the commandments is useful for convicting the lost of their wickedness and drawing them to the arms of Jesus where they can be forgiven, cleansed, reborn, and find salvation in Him. If you ask 100 people if they think they're a good person, 90 will say yes. Too many walking around thinking their own self-righteousness is good enough for God. That's a big problem because according to the Bible none are good but God, all have fallen far short of the mark of moral perfection which is the benchmark. The commandments emphasize just how far from the mark we all are and will compel us of our need to seek the righteousness of Christ as a shelter as we all get closer to the judgement throne with every passing minute.
The purpose of the 10 commandments is 1. a guideline on how to act as a Christian, as mandated by God, and 2. as the means with which we as humans can obviously see we cannot follow the commandments perfectly because we are sinful creatures as it stands rn, and subsequently need Jesus as our savior because we can't get to heaven or be perfectly righteous in God's eyes without HIM. As for all the saints and Godly people who died before Christ, I have an interesting theory about where they went as the heaven 'placeholder' till Jesus fulfilled the prophecies and reunited us with our Father and opened the pearly gates for us again. Abrahams bosom. But thats a little bit sidetracking kek
I would add that it was Israel alone, not any of the Gentile nations (including USA, sorry Christian Nationalists) that were bound in covenant with God to obey all 10 commandments perpetually so that they can maintain peace and blessings in that land God gave them. The 10 commandments include prohibition against any false religion, and strict adherence to the sign of the Sabbath which was meant to distinguish Israel as a nation granted certain privileges by God.
However a good portion of the 10 commandments (6 - 9 or 10) handily summarize the general equity of a righteous society that can function peacably and justly. Murder, theft, adultery, and so on. This portion overlaps with the Noahic code and covenant that God mad with all nations in Gen 11, a means by which societies and nations may be preserved and justice would protect the injured or vulnerable. But idolatry and false religious beliefs were not in purview for how society can continue to preserve humanity.
All that to say, the 10 commandments were really a handy pocket constitution for the nation of Israel, summarizing their responsibilities as a special nation with God as their covenant Lord. To rip it out of that covenantal context and think it applies to America or anywhere else at the nation-state level, is both wrong and dangerous to the mission of the Gospel.
I agree with your addition as well fren! Thank you for expanding on it. Thats what discussion is all about! Definitely not trying to take it out of a covenantal status by any means, but its quite interesting how, like you said better than me, TTC double as a pocket constitution on how to preserve a functioning society as well. Almost like God knows best or something kek
Ten Commandments are God, not Moses. Jesus is God.
Jesus distinguished the Ten Commandments from his own commandment, which is to love God and to love one another.
Jesus and God have the same character.
The Old Testament religion is a different religion to which Jesus is the antidote.
Yes but the 10 commandments are still the character of God, they will never become outdated. Only the need to follow for salvation/holiness had been altered by Jesus’ death. The purpose of the Law is to condemn, so having knowledge of the Law allows non believers to see where they fall short and need a savior. Without that we have a sinful society that doesn’t acknowledge sin.
Hebrews 8:13 — By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.
That scripture is speaking of the covenant regarding Jewish ceremonial laws, not the moral laws given by God to Moses. If you read Hebrews chapter 9 it details exactly what the old covenant was and the new covenant that replaces it is. Gods moral laws are timeless and as a Christian you are still expected to obey them. Calling Christ your savior is not a free pass to willingly live in sin. The preaching of the law of the commandments is useful for convicting the lost of their wickedness and drawing them to the arms of Jesus where they can be forgiven, cleansed, reborn, and find salvation in Him. If you ask 100 people if they think they're a good person, 90 will say yes. Too many walking around thinking their own self-righteousness is good enough for God. That's a big problem because according to the Bible none are good but God, all have fallen far short of the mark of moral perfection which is the benchmark. The commandments emphasize just how far from the mark we all are and will compel us of our need to seek the righteousness of Christ as a shelter as we all get closer to the judgement throne with every passing minute.
The purpose of the 10 commandments is 1. a guideline on how to act as a Christian, as mandated by God, and 2. as the means with which we as humans can obviously see we cannot follow the commandments perfectly because we are sinful creatures as it stands rn, and subsequently need Jesus as our savior because we can't get to heaven or be perfectly righteous in God's eyes without HIM. As for all the saints and Godly people who died before Christ, I have an interesting theory about where they went as the heaven 'placeholder' till Jesus fulfilled the prophecies and reunited us with our Father and opened the pearly gates for us again. Abrahams bosom. But thats a little bit sidetracking kek
Correct.
I would add that it was Israel alone, not any of the Gentile nations (including USA, sorry Christian Nationalists) that were bound in covenant with God to obey all 10 commandments perpetually so that they can maintain peace and blessings in that land God gave them. The 10 commandments include prohibition against any false religion, and strict adherence to the sign of the Sabbath which was meant to distinguish Israel as a nation granted certain privileges by God.
However a good portion of the 10 commandments (6 - 9 or 10) handily summarize the general equity of a righteous society that can function peacably and justly. Murder, theft, adultery, and so on. This portion overlaps with the Noahic code and covenant that God mad with all nations in Gen 11, a means by which societies and nations may be preserved and justice would protect the injured or vulnerable. But idolatry and false religious beliefs were not in purview for how society can continue to preserve humanity.
All that to say, the 10 commandments were really a handy pocket constitution for the nation of Israel, summarizing their responsibilities as a special nation with God as their covenant Lord. To rip it out of that covenantal context and think it applies to America or anywhere else at the nation-state level, is both wrong and dangerous to the mission of the Gospel.
I agree with your addition as well fren! Thank you for expanding on it. Thats what discussion is all about! Definitely not trying to take it out of a covenantal status by any means, but its quite interesting how, like you said better than me, TTC double as a pocket constitution on how to preserve a functioning society as well. Almost like God knows best or something kek
The 10 Commandments are not for Christians. Jesus gave us His commandments.
Hebrews 8:14 — By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.