Well the problem that I ran into is that absolutely nothing was being done before Obamacare. And you guys want to sit there and say that our medical system was this shining glorious thing and it really wasn't. You still had to pay $200 to see the fucking doctor. You still had private insurance companies telling you what treatments you could and couldn't get and looking for every excuse they could to just take your money and not pay. My memory isn't that short. I remember what it was like before Obamacare. Obamacare made it possible for people under 18 to see the doctor without bankrupting their parents. It made it possible for me to see the doctor and get treated when I was shitting blood every 10 to 15 minutes and I couldn't even leave the house. Talk all the shit you want about it but Obamacare I would say is probably the only reason I'm even alive today. The alternative would have been to go to a gastroenterologist, get the prescription, get the colonoscopy, and pay for my meds all completely out of pocket because private insurance wanted $1,000 a month and they would only cover two doctors visits a year and only partially, and I would have had to fight them to get my medication even covered halfway. I wouldn't have been able to afford it and eventually I would have gone on disability because of it. So yes overall for my perspective it was a good thing. Sorry if you guys hate the idea that a society should take care of its elderly and sick so they don't wind up on the street or die.
I mean beyond that, it's my personal belief that hospitals should be considered public infrastructure because this private for-profit medical system is a bloated monstrosity that's making us all sick. The entire insurance industry ought to be abolished or neutered.
My memory isn’t short. I, while on Tricare, had better doctors, didn’t pay crap to see a doctor, and didn’t pay any premiums. Now I pay premiums (on EFFING TRICARE), get tossed to Doctors who I wonder how they got their damn license to practice and pay a high deductible every year BEFORE I don’t have to pay. So I’m quite aware of what Obamacrap did to me and my family (daughters all had insurance go sky high with ridiculous unaffordable deductibles.). So don’t assume I have no idea what a crap deal that was for me and mine. It doesn’t work for the majority of people and therefore something else needs to be done.
I somewhat agree with you, and have empathy. My mom has UC and it sucks. Especially now that she is in a nursing home with dementia.
Here is something most people don't think about though. Obamacare is a huge reason why costs go up for treatments and meds. Just like Pell Grants and student loans for college. If the government subsidizes something, the places that provide the service or make the product will always raise their prices because the govt will continue to pay - forcing the US taxpayer to cover their overspending.
I agree the insurance industry should be abolished, but big pharma needs reigned in immediately.
"It made it possible for me to see the doctor and get treated when I was shitting blood every 10 to 15 minutes and I couldn't even leave the house."
With a screen name like "Gay4Jesus" there's probably a more chronic behavioral source of your colonic problems that socialized medicine and its bastard stepchild, Obamacare, can't cure.
I mean beyond that, it's my personal belief that hospitals should be considered public infrastructure because this private for-profit medical system is a bloated monstrosity that's making us all sick.
I have friends who live in Canada.
You do not want the system that you think you want.
There may be some non-pharmakeical solutions to ulcerative colitis. I’ve seen some things that I forwarded to a friend of mine with it before, though you have a more severe sounding case. Will see if I can dig them back up, though you will still need to do your own research and take accountability for your own outcomes.
I believe it can come down to what’s causing it rather than treating the symptoms, and suggest looking into terrain theory detoxing and natureopathy.
I am glad someone benefitted from it. I know quite a few people who got royally screwed by it, including myself and multiple friends and family members. Our medical system had issues before, and has issues now, but we can’t look at things through lenses of “this thing doesn’t fix my problem, therefore bad” or “this thing fixes my problem, therefore justified”, but all things have to be seen through first principles.
Well the problem that I ran into is that absolutely nothing was being done before Obamacare. And you guys want to sit there and say that our medical system was this shining glorious thing and it really wasn't. You still had to pay $200 to see the fucking doctor. You still had private insurance companies telling you what treatments you could and couldn't get and looking for every excuse they could to just take your money and not pay. My memory isn't that short. I remember what it was like before Obamacare. Obamacare made it possible for people under 18 to see the doctor without bankrupting their parents. It made it possible for me to see the doctor and get treated when I was shitting blood every 10 to 15 minutes and I couldn't even leave the house. Talk all the shit you want about it but Obamacare I would say is probably the only reason I'm even alive today. The alternative would have been to go to a gastroenterologist, get the prescription, get the colonoscopy, and pay for my meds all completely out of pocket because private insurance wanted $1,000 a month and they would only cover two doctors visits a year and only partially, and I would have had to fight them to get my medication even covered halfway. I wouldn't have been able to afford it and eventually I would have gone on disability because of it. So yes overall for my perspective it was a good thing. Sorry if you guys hate the idea that a society should take care of its elderly and sick so they don't wind up on the street or die.
I mean beyond that, it's my personal belief that hospitals should be considered public infrastructure because this private for-profit medical system is a bloated monstrosity that's making us all sick. The entire insurance industry ought to be abolished or neutered.
My memory isn’t short. I, while on Tricare, had better doctors, didn’t pay crap to see a doctor, and didn’t pay any premiums. Now I pay premiums (on EFFING TRICARE), get tossed to Doctors who I wonder how they got their damn license to practice and pay a high deductible every year BEFORE I don’t have to pay. So I’m quite aware of what Obamacrap did to me and my family (daughters all had insurance go sky high with ridiculous unaffordable deductibles.). So don’t assume I have no idea what a crap deal that was for me and mine. It doesn’t work for the majority of people and therefore something else needs to be done.
I somewhat agree with you, and have empathy. My mom has UC and it sucks. Especially now that she is in a nursing home with dementia.
Here is something most people don't think about though. Obamacare is a huge reason why costs go up for treatments and meds. Just like Pell Grants and student loans for college. If the government subsidizes something, the places that provide the service or make the product will always raise their prices because the govt will continue to pay - forcing the US taxpayer to cover their overspending.
I agree the insurance industry should be abolished, but big pharma needs reigned in immediately.
There are a lot of ancaps out there who used to argue that insurance was a great solution for a lot of market issues.
Not mandatory insurance, obviously. Not sure if they still think those theories are a good idea, but it was interesting to chew on.
But yeah pharma can get bent.
"It made it possible for me to see the doctor and get treated when I was shitting blood every 10 to 15 minutes and I couldn't even leave the house."
With a screen name like "Gay4Jesus" there's probably a more chronic behavioral source of your colonic problems that socialized medicine and its bastard stepchild, Obamacare, can't cure.
I have friends who live in Canada.
You do not want the system that you think you want.
There may be some non-pharmakeical solutions to ulcerative colitis. I’ve seen some things that I forwarded to a friend of mine with it before, though you have a more severe sounding case. Will see if I can dig them back up, though you will still need to do your own research and take accountability for your own outcomes.
I believe it can come down to what’s causing it rather than treating the symptoms, and suggest looking into terrain theory detoxing and natureopathy.
I am glad someone benefitted from it. I know quite a few people who got royally screwed by it, including myself and multiple friends and family members. Our medical system had issues before, and has issues now, but we can’t look at things through lenses of “this thing doesn’t fix my problem, therefore bad” or “this thing fixes my problem, therefore justified”, but all things have to be seen through first principles.