Forgive me for being ignorant. Why is she not eligible? Supposedly she was born in Oakland CA which makes her a naturalized citizen. Unless her birth is shady like Obama, born in Kenya, is there something I am missing here? Even if Obama was born overseas, Constitutionally, as long as his mother was still a US citizen Obama has US birthright citizenship. So I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. Harvard Law Review - On the Meaning of “Natural Born Citizen”
The U.S. Constitution states that the president must be a natural-born citizen of the United States.
Per Cornell University Law, A natural born citizen refers to someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth, and did not need to go through a naturalization proceeding later in life.
Per Harvard Law Review, a “natural born Citizen” means a citizen from birth with no need to go through naturalization proceedings. The Supreme Court has confirmed that natural born citizens are persons born either within the USA or abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent.
To have become a naturalized citizen, either one of Kamala's parents would need to have resided in the United States as a lawful permanent resident for at least five years... and then completed the naturalization paperwork and process. They didn't before she was born. Her mother came to the U.S. in 1960, and her father in 1961. Kamala was born in 1964. It takes 5 years of residency within the U.S. to apply for citizenship, and both of her parents were here on visas when she was born. She is not a natural born citizen of the U.S..
Trump can let Kamala be selected as the Dem candidate at their convention in August, and then immediately challenge her candidacy to the Supreme Court. She doesn't meet the definition, and is therefor ineligible.
The 14th Amendment states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
In the landmark case of Wong Kim Ark (1898), the Supreme Court held that a person born in the United States to resident aliens (i.e., parents who are not US citizens) is still a natural-born citizen.
The CRS Report (2015) states: “The child born of alien parents in the United States is held to be a citizen thereof, and to be subject to duties with regard to this country which do not attach to the father.”
The Attorney General’s clarification (as quoted in the 2006 report) emphasizes that children born in the United States to alien parents are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and are therefore natural-born citizens.
In summary, based on the Constitution, Supreme Court decisions, and legal analyses, people born in the United States to alien parents are considered natural-born citizens. Only one of her parents needed to be here legally and even if not, I do not believe it matters based upon established jurisprudence. The prevailing legal consensus is that children born in the United States, regardless of their parents’ immigration status, are U.S. citizens. If that were not the case, then foreign parents would not spend all kinds of money just to have their children born in the US and pregnant illegals would not jeopardize their lives to make it across the border before they give birth. So frankly, I think that in the case of Harris, there is no case at present bringing her eligibility into question. However, I do agree that these laws need to be changed to take away the anchor baby situation but that is something Congress has establish and I do not see that happening any time soon.
Read the 1898 Supreme Court decision again. She is a natural born citizen under that ruling. Not saying it’s right, but unless things are challenged again and the Supreme Court clarifies the definition of natural born citizen unfortunately current president says she is
Quit trying to make your point...the US Constitution is VERY Clear as to what has been espoused here...And the references do make the point and if you can't understand that fine...
But to keep arguing about the salient points is beyond reproach of the individuals who have given the references...
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The above does not convey "natural born citizenship status"; only US Citizen.
Harris is not eligible; she is not a Natural Born Citizen.
I thought so. Thanks. People are trying to strain knats here when there are so many other things about Harris that can be emphasized. Anyone born in the US regardless of parental legal residency status are natural born US citizens - period. Children born in the US to illegals do not have to go through a naturalization process to claim US citizenship. So I do not understand why some people want to spin their wheels and drive down that eligibility road again. It is a dead end and a distraction.
This is a dead end being intentionally being pushed as a distraction. Obama’s supposed biological father was from Kenya. If the Kamala thing had any merit, it would have applied to Obama. Natural born means born in the United States, regardless of where your parents are from. Anyone saying otherwise is making it up. A quick google search can easily prove this.
Obama's birth certificate was fraudulent. He was not eligible to be President. President Trump repeatedly brought this to the media's attention; it will eventually be widely accepted, I have no doubt.
Here parents were here on student visas. The person claiming citizenship must be under the jurisdiction of the United States for them to claim birthright citizenship. Student vistas leave you under your home countries jurisdiction.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
That is not accurate. There is nothing that says that. A child born in the IS is a natural born citizen unless one of the 2 exceptions I mentioned above exists. I’m not saying I agree with this definition, but unless the Supreme Court clarifies the definition of natural, born citizen, she is considered a natural, born citizen
It is 100% accurate. It is literally the first sentence in the 14th amendment of the Constitution.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The 14th amendment was enacted in 1868. The legal ruling clarifying the 14th amendment was in 1898. The last time I looked at a calendar 1898 was AFTER 1868.
Harvard is a full of shit globalist indoctrination centre. Regardless of Kamalas US citizenship, when she was born, her parents (and by extension Kamala) were subject to "Foreign jurisdiction" making her ineligible to become President,
just like the two goofbags demonrats who preceded her. Don't believe the fake news. Read the constitution, with a copy of Blacks Law Dictionary to avoid confusion over terminology.
From what my understanding is from different sources, anchor babies do not qualify for the office of US president! Her parents were either here under student visas or contractual foreign government posts!
Kamala is an ANCHOR BABY. Persons born in the US but subject to foreign jurisdiction are NOT eligible to run for President. Reread the 14th amendment CAREFULLY:
Indo-Caribbean-Ugandan Cannibals are only eligible to become President if their parents were citizens at the time of birth. Kamala will be just as illegitimate as the two preceding demonrat "presidents".
Forgive me for being ignorant. Why is she not eligible? Supposedly she was born in Oakland CA which makes her a naturalized citizen. Unless her birth is shady like Obama, born in Kenya, is there something I am missing here? Even if Obama was born overseas, Constitutionally, as long as his mother was still a US citizen Obama has US birthright citizenship. So I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. Harvard Law Review - On the Meaning of “Natural Born Citizen”
The U.S. Constitution states that the president must be a natural-born citizen of the United States.
Per Cornell University Law, A natural born citizen refers to someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth, and did not need to go through a naturalization proceeding later in life.
Per Harvard Law Review, a “natural born Citizen” means a citizen from birth with no need to go through naturalization proceedings. The Supreme Court has confirmed that natural born citizens are persons born either within the USA or abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent.
To have become a naturalized citizen, either one of Kamala's parents would need to have resided in the United States as a lawful permanent resident for at least five years... and then completed the naturalization paperwork and process. They didn't before she was born. Her mother came to the U.S. in 1960, and her father in 1961. Kamala was born in 1964. It takes 5 years of residency within the U.S. to apply for citizenship, and both of her parents were here on visas when she was born. She is not a natural born citizen of the U.S..
Trump can let Kamala be selected as the Dem candidate at their convention in August, and then immediately challenge her candidacy to the Supreme Court. She doesn't meet the definition, and is therefor ineligible.
Specifically:
The 14th Amendment states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” In the landmark case of Wong Kim Ark (1898), the Supreme Court held that a person born in the United States to resident aliens (i.e., parents who are not US citizens) is still a natural-born citizen. The CRS Report (2015) states: “The child born of alien parents in the United States is held to be a citizen thereof, and to be subject to duties with regard to this country which do not attach to the father.” The Attorney General’s clarification (as quoted in the 2006 report) emphasizes that children born in the United States to alien parents are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and are therefore natural-born citizens.
In summary, based on the Constitution, Supreme Court decisions, and legal analyses, people born in the United States to alien parents are considered natural-born citizens. Only one of her parents needed to be here legally and even if not, I do not believe it matters based upon established jurisprudence. The prevailing legal consensus is that children born in the United States, regardless of their parents’ immigration status, are U.S. citizens. If that were not the case, then foreign parents would not spend all kinds of money just to have their children born in the US and pregnant illegals would not jeopardize their lives to make it across the border before they give birth. So frankly, I think that in the case of Harris, there is no case at present bringing her eligibility into question. However, I do agree that these laws need to be changed to take away the anchor baby situation but that is something Congress has establish and I do not see that happening any time soon.
Citizen, , ,maybe; but not natural born. There is a difference.
Agree. https://youtu.be/h9PxdDvgQks?si=Wy-UK9JMP2UMPp4i
Read the 1898 Supreme Court decision again. She is a natural born citizen under that ruling. Not saying it’s right, but unless things are challenged again and the Supreme Court clarifies the definition of natural born citizen unfortunately current president says she is
Quit trying to make your point...the US Constitution is VERY Clear as to what has been espoused here...And the references do make the point and if you can't understand that fine...
But to keep arguing about the salient points is beyond reproach of the individuals who have given the references...
Agreed, you obviously don’t understand how to read legal precedent.
Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The above does not convey "natural born citizenship status"; only US Citizen. Harris is not eligible; she is not a Natural Born Citizen.
And one of their visas was expired.
And her father was working under contract of the Jamaican government.
You arent missing anything. She was born in Oakland. She is a citizen.
I thought so. Thanks. People are trying to strain knats here when there are so many other things about Harris that can be emphasized. Anyone born in the US regardless of parental legal residency status are natural born US citizens - period. Children born in the US to illegals do not have to go through a naturalization process to claim US citizenship. So I do not understand why some people want to spin their wheels and drive down that eligibility road again. It is a dead end and a distraction.
This is a dead end being intentionally being pushed as a distraction. Obama’s supposed biological father was from Kenya. If the Kamala thing had any merit, it would have applied to Obama. Natural born means born in the United States, regardless of where your parents are from. Anyone saying otherwise is making it up. A quick google search can easily prove this.
But not a natural born citizen. Minor vs Happersett (1874) defines NBC as born of two (plural) US citizen parents.
Oh geeze. Onama, according the official story, had a father born in Kenya. Give it up! This is a distraction
The supreme court has since refuted Minor vs. Happersett several different times
Obama's birth certificate was fraudulent. He was not eligible to be President. President Trump repeatedly brought this to the media's attention; it will eventually be widely accepted, I have no doubt.
Yes. True.
In Wong Kim Ark, the Supreme Court (1898) identifies two specific examples of people not subject to U.S. jurisdiction:
She does not fall into either category.
Here parents were here on student visas. The person claiming citizenship must be under the jurisdiction of the United States for them to claim birthright citizenship. Student vistas leave you under your home countries jurisdiction.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
That is not accurate. There is nothing that says that. A child born in the IS is a natural born citizen unless one of the 2 exceptions I mentioned above exists. I’m not saying I agree with this definition, but unless the Supreme Court clarifies the definition of natural, born citizen, she is considered a natural, born citizen
It is 100% accurate. It is literally the first sentence in the 14th amendment of the Constitution.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The 14th amendment was enacted in 1868. The legal ruling clarifying the 14th amendment was in 1898. The last time I looked at a calendar 1898 was AFTER 1868.
Harvard is a full of shit globalist indoctrination centre. Regardless of Kamalas US citizenship, when she was born, her parents (and by extension Kamala) were subject to "Foreign jurisdiction" making her ineligible to become President,
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/14th-amendment
just like the two goofbags demonrats who preceded her. Don't believe the fake news. Read the constitution, with a copy of Blacks Law Dictionary to avoid confusion over terminology.
From what my understanding is from different sources, anchor babies do not qualify for the office of US president! Her parents were either here under student visas or contractual foreign government posts!
This is the wrong rabbit hole to go down. Focus elsewhere like her record in the past. This point will never fly!
Kamala is an ANCHOR BABY. Persons born in the US but subject to foreign jurisdiction are NOT eligible to run for President. Reread the 14th amendment CAREFULLY:
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/14th-amendment
Indo-Caribbean-Ugandan Cannibals are only eligible to become President if their parents were citizens at the time of birth. Kamala will be just as illegitimate as the two preceding demonrat "presidents".