The Israel today is not the same Israel of the bible. This belief was created in 1900 by a single man named scoville. You will see that prior to this 1900 there was not a hint of any Christians believing such a thing.
You're right that God wins. That means it Israel needs Jesus.
Thank you! Excellent summary & true! When I first came to Christ over 40 years ago I was introduced to the teachings of E. I. Scofield. That system of theology is called "dispensationalism" right? It took me over 20 years to realize that dispensational teaching was wrong. I am reading some of the comments on this thread and it reminds me of the power of false teaching. Guys like us really have our work cut out for us!
Men like SOTH Mike Johnson seem to be a staunch dispensationalist. That is somewhat frightening to me. All I can say is that he can send his sons/daughters/grandchildren to fight and die for "Israel". But as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. In some circles this would be called "antisemitic" LOL!
BTW I come from an Ashkenazi "Jewish" background thru my father's side of the family. My Gr-Gr-grandfather was 1 of 10 men who founded a synagogue in a town in New Hampshire. I did a lot of digging into this "Jewish" question. What I've concluded is that today's "Jews" have no connection with the ancient Hebrews or Israelites. The Jews in Israel are Europeans who have adopted the Jewish religion. I'd say most aren't even religious and don't even believe in God. I think the scriptures in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 says it all - "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan" (Rev 2:9).
I could go on and on friend because this is a subject near and dear to my heart. But it's encouraging to read comments like yours! It gives me hope that American Christians are starting to wake up to the deception.
I'm proud of you that you that you decided to seek the truth instead of seeking a special class because of your bloodlines.
It amazes me how many Christians repeat the alleged promise of God will bless those the bless israel. The history of Israel seems to show that did not apply even to the biblical israel.
The Roman empire conquered Israel in 63 BC. They then slaughtered around a million Hebrews in 70 ad. If anything should trigger a curse you would think this would be it, instead the Roman empire prospered for hundreds of more years.
Why do so many Christians ignore so many beautiful and important promises of blessings or curses from the new testament? Whatever you do to the least of these you do onto me. Blessed are the peacemakers. Blessed are the poor in spirit.
It seems the only blessings that many modern day Christians get excited about is the blessings that come from giving money to their offering plate and the blessing that comes from giving money to the state of israel.
Seems like there is some manipulation behind this theology, wouldn't you say?
I’ll say this- u/Young_Patriot, are on fire this morning, kiddo! I got a rush from seeing someone younger knowing their Bible as well as you do! May God bless you and your family richly.
Yes I'm on the same page as "Young Patriot". You might call me an "Old Patriot" - I'm 72 yrs old - retired military! My children, who are in the their 20's & 30's (I started late), in no way want to have anything to do with the war in the middle east. This is a war that Israel is trying to drag us into. No thanks Bibi!
The Israel today is not the same Israel of the bible. This belief was created in 1900 by a single man named scoville. You will see that prior to this 1900 there was not a hint of any Christians believing such a thing.
You're right that God wins. That means it Israel needs Jesus.
Thank you! Excellent summary & true! When I first came to Christ over 40 years ago I was introduced to the teachings of E. I. Scofield. That system of theology is called "dispensationalism" right? It took me over 20 years to realize that dispensational teaching was wrong. I am reading some of the comments on this thread and it reminds me of the power of false teaching. Guys like us really have our work cut out for us!
Men like SOTH Mike Johnson seem to be a staunch dispensationalist. That is somewhat frightening to me. All I can say is that he can send his sons/daughters/grandchildren to fight and die for "Israel". But as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. In some circles this would be called "antisemitic" LOL!
BTW I come from an Ashkenazi "Jewish" background thru my father's side of the family. My Gr-Gr-grandfather was 1 of 10 men who founded a synagogue in a town in New Hampshire. I did a lot of digging into this "Jewish" question. What I've concluded is that today's "Jews" have no connection with the ancient Hebrews or Israelites. The Jews in Israel are Europeans who have adopted the Jewish religion. I'd say most aren't even religious and don't even believe in God. I think the scriptures in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 says it all - "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan" (Rev 2:9).
I could go on and on friend because this is a subject near and dear to my heart. But it's encouraging to read comments like yours! It gives me hope that American Christians are starting to wake up to the deception.
I'm proud of you that you that you decided to seek the truth instead of seeking a special class because of your bloodlines.
It amazes me how many Christians repeat the alleged promise of God will bless those the bless israel. The history of Israel seems to show that did not apply even to the biblical israel.
The Roman empire conquered Israel in 63 BC. They then slaughtered around a million Hebrews in 70 ad. If anything should trigger a curse you would think this would be it, instead the Roman empire prospered for hundreds of more years.
Why do so many Christians ignore so many beautiful and important promises of blessings or curses from the new testament? Whatever you do to the least of these you do onto me. Blessed are the peacemakers. Blessed are the poor in spirit.
It seems the only blessings that many modern day Christians get excited about is the blessings that come from giving money to their offering plate and the blessing that comes from giving money to the state of israel.
Seems like there is some manipulation behind this theology, wouldn't you say?
I’ll say this- u/Young_Patriot, are on fire this morning, kiddo! I got a rush from seeing someone younger knowing their Bible as well as you do! May God bless you and your family richly.
Yes I'm on the same page as "Young Patriot". You might call me an "Old Patriot" - I'm 72 yrs old - retired military! My children, who are in the their 20's & 30's (I started late), in no way want to have anything to do with the war in the middle east. This is a war that Israel is trying to drag us into. No thanks Bibi!