That's no better than saying "cash or crypto is only used by criminals"
The thing about any type of technology that helps preserve Liberty is that outside of the people that create it to meet a specific need, it's often adopted by criminals early on (as they are highly driven to conceal illegal activities)
Even with a predominantly legitimate user base the people trying to oppress you will label it as something that only criminals use in order to legislate against it and give it a bad reputation so people like you will "think" just what they want you to. Basically "Don't go where we can't see and hear you. Only criminals do that"
Sucker.
Over time other people start to adopt this technology for other purposes. This isn't much different than the first pagers / beepers being used primarily by doctors, businessmen and Wall Street types then quickly adopted by drug dealers, then shortly after that practically everyone had one including high school kids. Then we see this repeated with cell phones and other tech.
My church, our abortion ministry / legislative efforts, and a huge network of christian business owners as well as the leadership of some other like-minded churches we communicate with, use signal (like telegram but better) to keep our communications private from government surveillance. I know someone that was making fake vax cards and mailing them all around the world that used telegram. If he hadn't he would have been busted in a month or 2.
What are you going to say next? Only criminals use guns?
Is it a fucking stupid thing to say? But its true. Perhaps the answer isn't a platform that allows for the hidden sharing of child porn and terrorism, that you apparently support but perhaps the answer is for the government to stay the fuck out of our business and quit spying on and retaining every ladt piece of communication we have. If they are able to obtain a warrant based on PC then obtain information on a specific person, you know, like how the Constitution lays it out.
Nice straw man and intellectual dishonesty mixed in with a personal attack on my character you POS. F U. Seriously. I mean that with the upmost disrespect. Id sock you in the mouth for that if we were f2f.
I don't support CP or terrorism, I support privacy. The same privacy recognized in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You can share child porn and plan terrorism in your home, business, office, church or anywhere else. You can also do it in your mind or in a private conversation away from other people. Should the government be able to monitor that?
Just because somebody wants privacy and security doesn't mean they have anything to hide. I don't consent to searches and I don't answer questions from long enforcement. Because I don't have anything to hide but because that's my god-given right.
Your dumb argument is dumb. Seriously if you want to support totalitarian boot licking you better bring your A game against me. I'm gonna knock your logical fallacies down and make you look stupider than you already look. (Getting kind of hard to do at this point after your last comment since you seem to be giving me a run for my money)
I'd LOVE to live in This fantasy Utopia where we didn't need privacy after the globohomo faggot wicked sociopaths that currently hold power have been delt with..... But untill then should we just route all our communications openly in front of them?
The need for privacy doesn't go away until Jesus returns and sin has been ended.
We have a God given right to privacy. Currently the government doesn't respect that. That doesn't not equate to crime.
Also you seem to be under the assumption that the majority of telegram and encrypted communications is used by terrorists and for child porn and that just shows how wildly ignorant you are.
Telegram has 900 million monthly active users as of 2024.
Signal has roughly 50 million monthly users.
So I guess that's all terrorists and child porn huh?
First off fuck you too cunt. Fuck your mother. Fuck off. Again, i stand by keeping the government out of our communications. End all.patriot act and illegal spying. You are for keeping an app that is impossible to even get a search warrant and get pedos. That tells me all i need to know about you dick face. Keep saying nasty personal shit. I can do that all day to.
Perhaps for pedophilia seeing as how that and terrorism are about all telegram is used for
What a fucking stupid thing to say.
That's no better than saying "cash or crypto is only used by criminals"
The thing about any type of technology that helps preserve Liberty is that outside of the people that create it to meet a specific need, it's often adopted by criminals early on (as they are highly driven to conceal illegal activities)
Even with a predominantly legitimate user base the people trying to oppress you will label it as something that only criminals use in order to legislate against it and give it a bad reputation so people like you will "think" just what they want you to. Basically "Don't go where we can't see and hear you. Only criminals do that" Sucker.
Over time other people start to adopt this technology for other purposes. This isn't much different than the first pagers / beepers being used primarily by doctors, businessmen and Wall Street types then quickly adopted by drug dealers, then shortly after that practically everyone had one including high school kids. Then we see this repeated with cell phones and other tech.
My church, our abortion ministry / legislative efforts, and a huge network of christian business owners as well as the leadership of some other like-minded churches we communicate with, use signal (like telegram but better) to keep our communications private from government surveillance. I know someone that was making fake vax cards and mailing them all around the world that used telegram. If he hadn't he would have been busted in a month or 2.
What are you going to say next? Only criminals use guns?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/08/24/telegram-messaging-app-founder-and-ceo-arrested-in-france/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/breaking-telegram-ceo-arrested-french-authorities-refusing-follow/ "laws" - Can't have enough people protecting against censorship!! Fighting pedophilia is protecting the public and the laws associated with fighting such crimes... The are not mutually exclusive.
Is it a fucking stupid thing to say? But its true. Perhaps the answer isn't a platform that allows for the hidden sharing of child porn and terrorism, that you apparently support but perhaps the answer is for the government to stay the fuck out of our business and quit spying on and retaining every ladt piece of communication we have. If they are able to obtain a warrant based on PC then obtain information on a specific person, you know, like how the Constitution lays it out.
Nice straw man and intellectual dishonesty mixed in with a personal attack on my character you POS. F U. Seriously. I mean that with the upmost disrespect. Id sock you in the mouth for that if we were f2f.
I don't support CP or terrorism, I support privacy. The same privacy recognized in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
You can share child porn and plan terrorism in your home, business, office, church or anywhere else. You can also do it in your mind or in a private conversation away from other people. Should the government be able to monitor that?
Just because somebody wants privacy and security doesn't mean they have anything to hide. I don't consent to searches and I don't answer questions from long enforcement. Because I don't have anything to hide but because that's my god-given right.
Your dumb argument is dumb. Seriously if you want to support totalitarian boot licking you better bring your A game against me. I'm gonna knock your logical fallacies down and make you look stupider than you already look. (Getting kind of hard to do at this point after your last comment since you seem to be giving me a run for my money)
I'd LOVE to live in This fantasy Utopia where we didn't need privacy after the globohomo faggot wicked sociopaths that currently hold power have been delt with..... But untill then should we just route all our communications openly in front of them?
The need for privacy doesn't go away until Jesus returns and sin has been ended.
We have a God given right to privacy. Currently the government doesn't respect that. That doesn't not equate to crime.
Also you seem to be under the assumption that the majority of telegram and encrypted communications is used by terrorists and for child porn and that just shows how wildly ignorant you are.
Telegram has 900 million monthly active users as of 2024.
Signal has roughly 50 million monthly users.
So I guess that's all terrorists and child porn huh?
Go suck an egg.
Well said! u/#correct
First off fuck you too cunt. Fuck your mother. Fuck off. Again, i stand by keeping the government out of our communications. End all.patriot act and illegal spying. You are for keeping an app that is impossible to even get a search warrant and get pedos. That tells me all i need to know about you dick face. Keep saying nasty personal shit. I can do that all day to.
Nah, that Russian spyware is used by a lot of people in the conservative movement.
People latched on to that hard for some reason.
It provides faster flow of information for news and better than other platforms for videos.
I never really saw its value, but more power to you if you did.