While this is happening in CA and NY as you said (also Chicago, Minneapolis, and other deep blue cities), don't think that it's an inevitable thing nationwide. Normal people don't, and won't, live like that. Law and order, and personal responsibility still mean something out here in the heartland.
I'll give you two small examples of this. About a year ago a spot along my drive from my home to the gym, a location near an interstate that runs through our area, an overnight homeless camp sprung up. This is near some businesses, a school, a church, and some apartment buildings.
I thought, "Oh my God, where did THESE people come from?!" I spent about 2 hours at the gym, stopped for some lunch, and as I drove home, that spot had been cleared out and cleaned out. One county sheriff's car was there as the last bit of trash was being removed. That's how you do it...zero tolearnce for that kind of behavior.
The same thing happened in an area about 5 miles away, also near the interstate, and it was GONE in about 18 hours.
These are not isolated incidents, all across America there are good communities that simply will not tolerate their places being sullied by criminals, homeless, and illegal immigrants. We do have occasional crimes here by those people, but they are handled swiftly and to the full extent of the law.
So no, while CA and NY (etc.) may choose slow societal suicide, the rest of the nation is not going down that path.
I agree. I live in a deep blue state. I also live in a very large town. Our mayor will not put up with this kind of behavior. He has spent so much of his time making the town better (getting rid of abandoned buildings, making parks nicer, bringing in more business). My state is also a sanctuary state. When the first bus of illegals came to our town, he kicked them out. We also have a large, well-paid police force.
I'd rather not say where I live but the mayor is from India originally. We have a lot of immigrants from India who are high tech workers (H1B Visas) and they will not put up with shit policies. Many of these people invest in buying homes that they rent out and they do not want the home values to go down because of homeliness tents nearby.
It's easier for the commies to get shit like this done in big cities because the condensed large populations are easier to spread lies through before the truth can be spread to counter them
Because in big cities it's easy to hide this shitty Behavior by hiding in the crowd. In a small town with like 2,000 people where everybody knows each other it's really hard to be a criminal because everybody is going to know who you are and your reputation actually matters
I have a question about this mentality. Might be more than a question.
Let me ask though. If you use your vacuum and it picks up the dirt and crumbs, does the dirt and crumbs cease to exist?
One way we usher in communism and Marxism is just by what I perceive as your statement.
So if we are to have law and order with the constitution how do we deem homeless Americans (legal Americans) as dirt and crumbs and since you do not see them do they cease to exist?
The multi-angled was we are in and many claim Chyna is paying for a lot of this in the USA is to kneel at the boots of Law Enforcement while law enforcement is factually doing evil to Americans and we use the disguise of they are illegal or criminals.
So if we want the constitution to be upheld we are innocent until PROVEN guilty are we not? Under the 5th Amendment.
Evil has a backup plan too. Their first may fail but they will also still show how easily it is to beguile you.
The best answer if people REALLY want homeless people to cease to exist is to remove these policies and put USA FIRST.
why do so many people and to be honest the bluer one is the more easily ignorant they are about this magical thing that they believe they are in a fairy tale and only if they see it does it affect them. It is very sad and very disturbing.
Not mad. However this is how they will get concentration camps in the USA. See you will see homeless people and -NOT- see Americans.
While that is an overly broad interpretation of what I initially said, I see your point. But the answer is one you may not like. "What to do" with all these people, mostly undesirables and "lost souls" who have little chance or skills to improve their own lots, is WAY above my paygrade. I'm just an average conservative citizen of a southern state in a concentration of like-minded Red conservatives.
We simply do not want the pathologies that we see in San Francisco, Los Angeles, NYC, Chicago, and elsewhere visited upon us. Nor do we have the resources to save every person -- malcontent, misfit, lazy bum, drug addict/alcoholic, or mentally ill person -- who decides to set up house on our streets and sidewalks.
If you're familiar with the Broken Window Theory (https://www.simplypsychology.org/broken-windows-theory.html) you will know that social disorder begins, not with a massive breakdown of a society, but in little incremental ways. A broken window here that goes unrepaired, graffiti that is left for all to see for years on end, a lone tent on a sidewalk.... pretty soon people in that area get used to the decline and will tolerate more and more until they wake up one day and find their neighborhood unlivable.
What happened? I'll TELL you what happened. Tolerance... that's what happened. We are so used to leftists telling us that we need to "tolerate" this and "tolerate" that, same sex marriages, gay pride parades with dancing nudes in the streets, prostitutes roaming the streets at night, dangerous Venezuelan gangs taking over entire city blocks... all in the name of tolerance.
Um, no thanks. It's not that I don't care about these people, but having little resources to fix the problem, having just enough resources to help our own poor and unfortunate without bringing in other people who hate us and will resort to crime as the only way of life they know.... no. Simply NO.
Go do that shit somewhere else, and I don't care WHERE they do it, just not here in my hometown, my county, my state. And if it takes making examples of a few of therm, or even MANY of them, so be it.
No offense taken at your question, but your question involves an answer and responses that are frankly beyond our resources.
The GREATEST thing that can (and likely will be) done is when Trump follows through on his promise to conduct the greatest deportation program in history and we get rid of approx. 50% of the problem immediately. The rest of it may take some time, but however it's done, I assure you, it WON'T be fixed in my hometown.
We'll ship those parasites off somewhere else if we have to. I have little patience for parasites... I may feel sorry for them, a little, but they just need to move on and take their multitudinous pathologies with them.
1-WW3 and a forced draft -
2-USA repents and we cast our the beam in our eyes and start manufacturing again.
One of the biggest hoaxes is to force kids into going to college to indoctrinated into this communism and lied to about getting some magical job.
College is good for many but manufacturing is good for the masses. Bring back hospitality and honor.
The democratic policies create the homeless problem and depression brings on a person willing to drown their sorrows in drugs.
The evil is communism. Not you wanting peace.
It will take you and those like you to usher in what is required. Both outcomes have consequences and we are reaping what we have sown as a society in decline for a long time.
Miracles can happen. Blood is required on both paths sadly.
While this is happening in CA and NY as you said (also Chicago, Minneapolis, and other deep blue cities), don't think that it's an inevitable thing nationwide. Normal people don't, and won't, live like that. Law and order, and personal responsibility still mean something out here in the heartland.
I'll give you two small examples of this. About a year ago a spot along my drive from my home to the gym, a location near an interstate that runs through our area, an overnight homeless camp sprung up. This is near some businesses, a school, a church, and some apartment buildings.
I thought, "Oh my God, where did THESE people come from?!" I spent about 2 hours at the gym, stopped for some lunch, and as I drove home, that spot had been cleared out and cleaned out. One county sheriff's car was there as the last bit of trash was being removed. That's how you do it...zero tolearnce for that kind of behavior.
The same thing happened in an area about 5 miles away, also near the interstate, and it was GONE in about 18 hours.
These are not isolated incidents, all across America there are good communities that simply will not tolerate their places being sullied by criminals, homeless, and illegal immigrants. We do have occasional crimes here by those people, but they are handled swiftly and to the full extent of the law.
So no, while CA and NY (etc.) may choose slow societal suicide, the rest of the nation is not going down that path.
I agree. I live in a deep blue state. I also live in a very large town. Our mayor will not put up with this kind of behavior. He has spent so much of his time making the town better (getting rid of abandoned buildings, making parks nicer, bringing in more business). My state is also a sanctuary state. When the first bus of illegals came to our town, he kicked them out. We also have a large, well-paid police force.
Where the heck do you live ? Good on your mayor !!
I'd rather not say where I live but the mayor is from India originally. We have a lot of immigrants from India who are high tech workers (H1B Visas) and they will not put up with shit policies. Many of these people invest in buying homes that they rent out and they do not want the home values to go down because of homeliness tents nearby.
It's easier for the commies to get shit like this done in big cities because the condensed large populations are easier to spread lies through before the truth can be spread to counter them
Because in big cities it's easy to hide this shitty Behavior by hiding in the crowd. In a small town with like 2,000 people where everybody knows each other it's really hard to be a criminal because everybody is going to know who you are and your reputation actually matters
I have a question about this mentality. Might be more than a question.
Let me ask though. If you use your vacuum and it picks up the dirt and crumbs, does the dirt and crumbs cease to exist?
One way we usher in communism and Marxism is just by what I perceive as your statement.
So if we are to have law and order with the constitution how do we deem homeless Americans (legal Americans) as dirt and crumbs and since you do not see them do they cease to exist?
The multi-angled was we are in and many claim Chyna is paying for a lot of this in the USA is to kneel at the boots of Law Enforcement while law enforcement is factually doing evil to Americans and we use the disguise of they are illegal or criminals.
So if we want the constitution to be upheld we are innocent until PROVEN guilty are we not? Under the 5th Amendment.
Evil has a backup plan too. Their first may fail but they will also still show how easily it is to beguile you.
The best answer if people REALLY want homeless people to cease to exist is to remove these policies and put USA FIRST.
why do so many people and to be honest the bluer one is the more easily ignorant they are about this magical thing that they believe they are in a fairy tale and only if they see it does it affect them. It is very sad and very disturbing.
Not mad. However this is how they will get concentration camps in the USA. See you will see homeless people and -NOT- see Americans.
While that is an overly broad interpretation of what I initially said, I see your point. But the answer is one you may not like. "What to do" with all these people, mostly undesirables and "lost souls" who have little chance or skills to improve their own lots, is WAY above my paygrade. I'm just an average conservative citizen of a southern state in a concentration of like-minded Red conservatives.
We simply do not want the pathologies that we see in San Francisco, Los Angeles, NYC, Chicago, and elsewhere visited upon us. Nor do we have the resources to save every person -- malcontent, misfit, lazy bum, drug addict/alcoholic, or mentally ill person -- who decides to set up house on our streets and sidewalks.
If you're familiar with the Broken Window Theory (https://www.simplypsychology.org/broken-windows-theory.html) you will know that social disorder begins, not with a massive breakdown of a society, but in little incremental ways. A broken window here that goes unrepaired, graffiti that is left for all to see for years on end, a lone tent on a sidewalk.... pretty soon people in that area get used to the decline and will tolerate more and more until they wake up one day and find their neighborhood unlivable.
What happened? I'll TELL you what happened. Tolerance... that's what happened. We are so used to leftists telling us that we need to "tolerate" this and "tolerate" that, same sex marriages, gay pride parades with dancing nudes in the streets, prostitutes roaming the streets at night, dangerous Venezuelan gangs taking over entire city blocks... all in the name of tolerance.
Um, no thanks. It's not that I don't care about these people, but having little resources to fix the problem, having just enough resources to help our own poor and unfortunate without bringing in other people who hate us and will resort to crime as the only way of life they know.... no. Simply NO.
Go do that shit somewhere else, and I don't care WHERE they do it, just not here in my hometown, my county, my state. And if it takes making examples of a few of therm, or even MANY of them, so be it.
No offense taken at your question, but your question involves an answer and responses that are frankly beyond our resources.
The GREATEST thing that can (and likely will be) done is when Trump follows through on his promise to conduct the greatest deportation program in history and we get rid of approx. 50% of the problem immediately. The rest of it may take some time, but however it's done, I assure you, it WON'T be fixed in my hometown.
We'll ship those parasites off somewhere else if we have to. I have little patience for parasites... I may feel sorry for them, a little, but they just need to move on and take their multitudinous pathologies with them.
2 ways to fix (I am not an expert though)
1-WW3 and a forced draft - 2-USA repents and we cast our the beam in our eyes and start manufacturing again.
One of the biggest hoaxes is to force kids into going to college to indoctrinated into this communism and lied to about getting some magical job.
College is good for many but manufacturing is good for the masses. Bring back hospitality and honor.
The democratic policies create the homeless problem and depression brings on a person willing to drown their sorrows in drugs.
The evil is communism. Not you wanting peace.
It will take you and those like you to usher in what is required. Both outcomes have consequences and we are reaping what we have sown as a society in decline for a long time.
Miracles can happen. Blood is required on both paths sadly.
Amen!!