I used to think this way, more than anyone I ever met. Unexplainable circumstances put Jesus in my life. I found the truth about Jesus and my entire life changed the day I put my faith in him.
You can dismiss it, but I never met a person who did a deep dive on the history, the gospels and the prophets and wasn’t a believer.
I think the truth is shrouded by layers upon layers of manipulation like the structure of an onion. There are bits of truth in Christianity just as there are bits of truth in Satanism, ancient sumerians, Taoism, Buddhism, etc. There does seem to be a conscious aspect underlying the universe or our experience of it, and that consciousness does not seem to be limited entirely to within our heads. Whatever that means, I don't know, but the idea of God and Jesus is one possibility. Another could be pantheism or panentheism. Or perhaps we live in a simulation like The Truman Show or the Matrix. If that's the case, then there is no knowable reality.
I thought that same way my entire life until 4 years ago.
There is more evidence of Jesus Christ than anything I’ve ever seen. The gospels of Matthew, Luke, Mark, and John are the most researched books in history with more cross-referenced material than any other based on eye-witness accounts of over 25,000 manuscripts dating back to the 2nd century. With new findings proving the accuracy of the text, locations, and details every year.
That, coupled with the actions of the apostles and their extreme doubts pre and post crucifixion to their immense faith after the rising of Christ, are unexplainable any other way. They were ruined in their reputations, tortured in horrific ways (crucified upside down, submerged in acid for example) and maintained their faith for no worldly benefits, even after almost all of them doubting Jesus was before he rose. Then to after he came back, they never wavered in their trust.
From the history and my personal experiences from a huge skeptic and ‘agnostic’ to how out of nowhere, I was pulled into faith; the peace and love I feel in my life now, it would be way harder for me to be convinced it was all fake compared to me having even more faith.
I've gone back and forth like that over the years. I was so convinced when I believed the last time. Right now I think my own brain fills in gaps when I want to believe something - like an alter ego that is my own personal evangelical apologist. But when I think of what a world without a God behind it might look like, using causality and randomness, I end up with pretty much the world we live in. That is the only way to explain the gorgeous beauty of the aurora borealis while also explaining the atrocities of childhood leukemia and the Yulin Dog Meat Festival in China. There are extremes at both ends of the spectrum, indicating that no side is truly superior to the other, and that idea wipes out the idea that God is stronger than Satan. Perhaps an equal...but that would fall more in line with Zoroastrianism than Christianity. The Native American story of the Two Wolves has more truth in it than the idea of Jesus saving us all.
The problem with simulation theory (which includes Christianity) is that if this is not the real world and is some trial or simulation or cosmic video game or whatever, then there really is no way to prove that ANY reality is real. It could be a dream of a dream of a dream ad nauseum. Perhaps God and the Heavenly Kingdom are another simulation of some higher reality beyond that...and so on and so on. So for argument's sake, either this is the real world or there is no real world.
agree with much of this^ but I think there's a reality outside of this matrix,
and that's why Q posted this verse;
#1886
"For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."
– Corinthians 13:4-13
and this prayer;
#154
Our Father who art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
Q
we're in a distorted world, separated from God who lives in heaven. Q is helping us to ascend to a better life, without the swamp...
#2450
We are going to show you a new world.
Those who are blind will soon see the light.
A beautiful brave new world lies ahead.
We take this journey together.
One step at a time.
WWG1WGA!
Q
#4963
Runbeck.
Dominion.
SOS Offices.
Investigators.
Researchers.
Whistleblowers.
Patriots in trusted positions.
Trust yourself.
You have seen the truth.
Time to show the world.
Focus.
FOCUS.
Ascension.
Q
I used to think this way, more than anyone I ever met. Unexplainable circumstances put Jesus in my life. I found the truth about Jesus and my entire life changed the day I put my faith in him.
You can dismiss it, but I never met a person who did a deep dive on the history, the gospels and the prophets and wasn’t a believer.
I with you bolt. Very similar experience
I think the truth is shrouded by layers upon layers of manipulation like the structure of an onion. There are bits of truth in Christianity just as there are bits of truth in Satanism, ancient sumerians, Taoism, Buddhism, etc. There does seem to be a conscious aspect underlying the universe or our experience of it, and that consciousness does not seem to be limited entirely to within our heads. Whatever that means, I don't know, but the idea of God and Jesus is one possibility. Another could be pantheism or panentheism. Or perhaps we live in a simulation like The Truman Show or the Matrix. If that's the case, then there is no knowable reality.
I thought that same way my entire life until 4 years ago.
There is more evidence of Jesus Christ than anything I’ve ever seen. The gospels of Matthew, Luke, Mark, and John are the most researched books in history with more cross-referenced material than any other based on eye-witness accounts of over 25,000 manuscripts dating back to the 2nd century. With new findings proving the accuracy of the text, locations, and details every year.
That, coupled with the actions of the apostles and their extreme doubts pre and post crucifixion to their immense faith after the rising of Christ, are unexplainable any other way. They were ruined in their reputations, tortured in horrific ways (crucified upside down, submerged in acid for example) and maintained their faith for no worldly benefits, even after almost all of them doubting Jesus was before he rose. Then to after he came back, they never wavered in their trust.
From the history and my personal experiences from a huge skeptic and ‘agnostic’ to how out of nowhere, I was pulled into faith; the peace and love I feel in my life now, it would be way harder for me to be convinced it was all fake compared to me having even more faith.
I've gone back and forth like that over the years. I was so convinced when I believed the last time. Right now I think my own brain fills in gaps when I want to believe something - like an alter ego that is my own personal evangelical apologist. But when I think of what a world without a God behind it might look like, using causality and randomness, I end up with pretty much the world we live in. That is the only way to explain the gorgeous beauty of the aurora borealis while also explaining the atrocities of childhood leukemia and the Yulin Dog Meat Festival in China. There are extremes at both ends of the spectrum, indicating that no side is truly superior to the other, and that idea wipes out the idea that God is stronger than Satan. Perhaps an equal...but that would fall more in line with Zoroastrianism than Christianity. The Native American story of the Two Wolves has more truth in it than the idea of Jesus saving us all.
If that were the case, then you could not claim that reality exists or that you exist or that your thoughts exist or that your words mean anything.
That is losing touch with reality.
"Reality exists" is an axiom which cannot be denied.
If you deny it, you are hopelessly lost. And that is no way to live.
The problem with simulation theory (which includes Christianity) is that if this is not the real world and is some trial or simulation or cosmic video game or whatever, then there really is no way to prove that ANY reality is real. It could be a dream of a dream of a dream ad nauseum. Perhaps God and the Heavenly Kingdom are another simulation of some higher reality beyond that...and so on and so on. So for argument's sake, either this is the real world or there is no real world.
The fact that you are responding and participating in this forum proves that YOU don't believe that. If you did, you wouldn't bother.
Your fantasy is just as made-up as any religion.
Therefore, you have no real point. You are just making the same argument that you are arguing against, but from a different angle.
Essentially, you are arguing against yourself.
And that is self-contradictory.
And that means it cannot be true.
And that's why we have to get back to a philosophical root of AXIOMS.
If we cannot rely on axioms as a starting point to understand the world we live in, then there is no understanding of anything.
And that is just a stupid way to live.
agree with much of this^ but I think there's a reality outside of this matrix,
and that's why Q posted this verse;
#1886 "For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known." – Corinthians 13:4-13
and this prayer;
#154
Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Q
we're in a distorted world, separated from God who lives in heaven. Q is helping us to ascend to a better life, without the swamp...
#2450
We are going to show you a new world.
Those who are blind will soon see the light.
A beautiful brave new world lies ahead.
We take this journey together.
One step at a time.
WWG1WGA!
Q
#4963
Runbeck. Dominion. SOS Offices. Investigators. Researchers. Whistleblowers. Patriots in trusted positions. Trust yourself. You have seen the truth. Time to show the world. Focus. FOCUS. Ascension. Q
"Brave New World" is a book about a very NOT good reality.
but Q calls this a 'beautiful brave new world', so I'm assuming it will be differnt than the book.
tthink the book was the blackhat's plan...