We are called to be salt and light and test everything with scripture, including our own positions, not to be passive and say "you do you"
This is something you should seek and examine answer to by examining the scriptures and perhaps speaking with your qualified pastors or elders. Not for me but for yourself.
You are welcome to pray for me all you like. I have no problem with that. Again, this discussion is about praying TO angels, saints or anyone besides God. You keep making a basic category error.
Who said anything about praying TO anyone besides Jesus? I’m so fatigued regarding certain individuals who are unable to accept some of us actually ask those for help who have attained spiritual perfection and are enjoying the beatific vision of our Heavenly Father. I suggest you pluck the 2x4 out of your eye before you comment on the speck in mine. This conversation is going nowhere. You stay in your congregation and I’ll stay in mine. I’m done.
Fight the good fight brother! Yea I’ve noticed they wanna change the subject. I’m getting it as well. I’m like…??? Uh, lol. And exactly. Your comments are spot on! Pray to God people. Pray to Jesus our Lord and Savior! Love ya.
It's the experts that got us into this whole quagmire in the 1st place, silly.
BTW "...we humbly pray, and do thou oh prince...." is saying that we are praying (to God I presume) and ALSO requesting help of an archangel. It was brilliantly writing not to exclude anyone of any faith - except, of course, those that side with satan.
That didn't mean experts. That meant married men with obedient children that meet the biblical qualifications for pastors or elders as laid fourth in scripture.
You stepped right into a quagmire because of your ignorance.
I don't see anything wrong in what you are saying.
Of course we can request help from archangels! Worship only God but we are always free to ask anything of anyone. Trump wrote this in a brilliant way to not exclude anyone of any faith - (except, of course, those that side with satan.) He may be a Christian himself but he is a leader of not only Christians.
You do you. When we see God face to face it’ll be sorted out. Until then you’ll continue in my prayers.
"you do you" isn't a Christian position.
We are called to be salt and light and test everything with scripture, including our own positions, not to be passive and say "you do you"
This is something you should seek and examine answer to by examining the scriptures and perhaps speaking with your qualified pastors or elders. Not for me but for yourself.
You are welcome to pray for me all you like. I have no problem with that. Again, this discussion is about praying TO angels, saints or anyone besides God. You keep making a basic category error.
Who said anything about praying TO anyone besides Jesus? I’m so fatigued regarding certain individuals who are unable to accept some of us actually ask those for help who have attained spiritual perfection and are enjoying the beatific vision of our Heavenly Father. I suggest you pluck the 2x4 out of your eye before you comment on the speck in mine. This conversation is going nowhere. You stay in your congregation and I’ll stay in mine. I’m done.
Oh. My. Gosh.
THATS WHAT THIS POST AND COMMENT THREAD IS ABOUT.
No wonder this conversation was going nowhere. You were lost.
Please pay attention before stumbling into conversations and changing the subject without letting anyone else know you are not on the same page.
What a waste of time
Your discussion is about argument and accusing others of not being good enough Christians while the thread is about praying for DJT and nothing more.
What a slanderous misrepresentation.
I encourage every to pray for DJT.... EFFECTIVELY to GOD as scripture instructs us.
Fight the good fight brother! Yea I’ve noticed they wanna change the subject. I’m getting it as well. I’m like…??? Uh, lol. And exactly. Your comments are spot on! Pray to God people. Pray to Jesus our Lord and Savior! Love ya.
Take it up with Trump, obviously HE has NO problem asking the intercession and protection of the great warrior angel Michael.
Stop eating your own.
If I was "eating" them you'd know it. Trust me. This was insult free and mild toned argumentation.
Scripture teaches us "A wise man receives correction" and Christians should teach and correct each other. Iron sharpens iron.
It also has a verse that's very relevant to you... Proverbs 26:17
Qualified pastors or elders???!!! kek
It's the experts that got us into this whole quagmire in the 1st place, silly.
BTW "...we humbly pray, and do thou oh prince...." is saying that we are praying (to God I presume) and ALSO requesting help of an archangel. It was brilliantly writing not to exclude anyone of any faith - except, of course, those that side with satan.
whoosh
That didn't mean experts. That meant married men with obedient children that meet the biblical qualifications for pastors or elders as laid fourth in scripture.
You stepped right into a quagmire because of your ignorance.
I don't see anything wrong in what you are saying.
Of course we can request help from archangels! Worship only God but we are always free to ask anything of anyone. Trump wrote this in a brilliant way to not exclude anyone of any faith - (except, of course, those that side with satan.) He may be a Christian himself but he is a leader of not only Christians.