I'm seeking, clarity, not conflict here -
So the death factories of Auschwitz, Treblinka, Maidanek, Chelmno, Sobibor and Belzec are lies? I have seen that the Soviet estimates on killed numbers were much higher than many current day estimates.
The death squads of Einstazgruppe(n) A, B, C, D never happened? The allies allegedly caught wind of Auschwitz and were going to bomb it - no truth to that? What about the trials? What about the convicted?
Think of the death camps as Adrenochrome distribution centers...
AGAIN - not looking for an argument, not calling anyone wrong - just looking for clarity and facts. I believe that something happened in Poland during WWII and it was horrible, but there were also serbian camps and I think some in ukraine as well. What is the truth?
This is one of those topics that just requires a boat load of dedication to researching...im certainly not close to being done yet and while I feel confident of stating what many of the lies were, I am NOT as confident in what ALL the truths are...
Here is one of the places that I started and perhaps it will serve as a great kicking off point for you as well.
Zyklon B - delouser. Gas chambers were not air tight. Not enough ash in area to account for the bodies. Not enough time to gas and cremate that amount of bodies. There were swimming pools in the camps. They had bands. They had dances. They were quite well cared for actually.
The camps were there, yes. Eisenhower cut off food supplies to Germany and the people in the camps starved.
Was there atrocities? Of that I am sure, but there is not enough evidence to support millions being methodically and systematically killed.
Were the Jews rounded up? Yes. Were there innocents caught up in it all? Yes. Did the Zionists know Jews were being starved? Yes, it was the plan all along. They needed someone to play the role they were going to assume for the next 100 years of their plan.
Cant disagree with any of this. Its a tough subject for sure because there is ALMOST no way to speak truth to the general public without getting hit with the AntiSemitic tag.
You cant deny a peoples suffering, real or imagined....it is part of their identity.
There’s a video that I’ve seen posted here where concentration camp survivors detailed all the stuff you mentioned, bands, games, plays, being treated well by guards etc.
I thought I saved it but now I can’t find it anywhere. Just wondering if anyone else has it saved. Thanks.
The only 'camp' that used to come close to your description was Theresienstadt and that was sometimes referred to as a camp and other times a ghetto. Theresienstadt's big claim was that it apparently had a large library, but no pool... There are pictures of the guards torturing prisoners in Buchenwald and tons of pictures of the selection lines at Auschwitz. Almost all camps had some sort of musical 'entertainment' The commandants liked hearing Wagner and the boys quite a bit... They were always billed as ultra-horrible places. The serbian camps were supposedly more brutal, but that is for another time.
One more thing - there was a widely publicized event where himmler took in an execution in Minsk and got brains or something on his spiffy uniform and apparently made hm real sick and he turned green, well himmler made some sort of procedural changes b/c of that... So there were executions and whatever did or did not happen kept Simon Wiesenthal very busy after the war. I think there definitely was a final solution and I'd like to know the truth about what happened. I do think that a far worse version of the final solution will happen again...
Been thinking about this recently. So basically, I think I understand that he put his potential enemies. (Bolshevics, Marxists, who happened to be Jewish for the most part) In labor camps. The war went badly, food shortages, disease, etc. many died. To me this is no different than the US putting Germans and Japanese in internment camps all over the US during the war. We didn't have the disease and food shortages since we were not located in the actual war zone, but really same idea. The Japanese also commented horrible war crimes and most people don't even know. Communists across the globe have genocide more people than any other ideology.
Once one realizes how much of the Holocaust history is pure lies, especially the Gas Chamber BS ...the entire view of Hitler changes.
At one time I was led to believe he was the most evil man in history...now I think differently.
Right? And there are countless movies about how awful the German were. Hollywood isn’t controlled by the Germans sooo….
IPOT has a bunch of research about this subject. Interesting stuff.
I'm seeking, clarity, not conflict here - So the death factories of Auschwitz, Treblinka, Maidanek, Chelmno, Sobibor and Belzec are lies? I have seen that the Soviet estimates on killed numbers were much higher than many current day estimates. The death squads of Einstazgruppe(n) A, B, C, D never happened? The allies allegedly caught wind of Auschwitz and were going to bomb it - no truth to that? What about the trials? What about the convicted?
Think of the death camps as Adrenochrome distribution centers...
AGAIN - not looking for an argument, not calling anyone wrong - just looking for clarity and facts. I believe that something happened in Poland during WWII and it was horrible, but there were also serbian camps and I think some in ukraine as well. What is the truth?
Thank you in advance frens - God† bless.
This is one of those topics that just requires a boat load of dedication to researching...im certainly not close to being done yet and while I feel confident of stating what many of the lies were, I am NOT as confident in what ALL the truths are...
Here is one of the places that I started and perhaps it will serve as a great kicking off point for you as well.
https://lovkap.blogspot.com/2018/01/auschwitz.html
Zyklon B - delouser. Gas chambers were not air tight. Not enough ash in area to account for the bodies. Not enough time to gas and cremate that amount of bodies. There were swimming pools in the camps. They had bands. They had dances. They were quite well cared for actually.
The camps were there, yes. Eisenhower cut off food supplies to Germany and the people in the camps starved.
Was there atrocities? Of that I am sure, but there is not enough evidence to support millions being methodically and systematically killed.
Were the Jews rounded up? Yes. Were there innocents caught up in it all? Yes. Did the Zionists know Jews were being starved? Yes, it was the plan all along. They needed someone to play the role they were going to assume for the next 100 years of their plan.
Cant disagree with any of this. Its a tough subject for sure because there is ALMOST no way to speak truth to the general public without getting hit with the AntiSemitic tag.
You cant deny a peoples suffering, real or imagined....it is part of their identity.
There is another story I came across via Eric "winkle" Brown yt videos, the UKs no1 test pilot.
In a documentary about the German planes he tested during the end of the war, he recounts how typhoid broke out at a camp.
And how the Germans were so petrified they suspended activities...giving safe passage to and from,for the allies to treat the outbreak.
A rather different narrative.
There’s a video that I’ve seen posted here where concentration camp survivors detailed all the stuff you mentioned, bands, games, plays, being treated well by guards etc.
I thought I saved it but now I can’t find it anywhere. Just wondering if anyone else has it saved. Thanks.
The only 'camp' that used to come close to your description was Theresienstadt and that was sometimes referred to as a camp and other times a ghetto. Theresienstadt's big claim was that it apparently had a large library, but no pool... There are pictures of the guards torturing prisoners in Buchenwald and tons of pictures of the selection lines at Auschwitz. Almost all camps had some sort of musical 'entertainment' The commandants liked hearing Wagner and the boys quite a bit... They were always billed as ultra-horrible places. The serbian camps were supposedly more brutal, but that is for another time.
One more thing - there was a widely publicized event where himmler took in an execution in Minsk and got brains or something on his spiffy uniform and apparently made hm real sick and he turned green, well himmler made some sort of procedural changes b/c of that... So there were executions and whatever did or did not happen kept Simon Wiesenthal very busy after the war. I think there definitely was a final solution and I'd like to know the truth about what happened. I do think that a far worse version of the final solution will happen again...
Henry turns green - https://www.holocausthistoricalsociety.org.uk/contents/einsatzgruppen/himmlervisitsminsk.html
Does this resemble the story of Auschwitz of history books?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-qXISYy2Pk
A very different version of mengele, 24X7 crematoriums, Arbeit Macht Frei and Zyklon B...
Here is another interesting video that paints an entirely different view of these camps than history books.
https://photos.onedrive.com/share/29D79AEE4648511D!232?cid=29D79AEE4648511D&resId=29D79AEE4648511D!232&authkey=!AC12C61E_xsohXI&ithint=video
Here is one more you may find interesting
https://historicaltribune.wordpress.com/tag/holocaust-survivors-tell-the-truth/
Been thinking about this recently. So basically, I think I understand that he put his potential enemies. (Bolshevics, Marxists, who happened to be Jewish for the most part) In labor camps. The war went badly, food shortages, disease, etc. many died. To me this is no different than the US putting Germans and Japanese in internment camps all over the US during the war. We didn't have the disease and food shortages since we were not located in the actual war zone, but really same idea. The Japanese also commented horrible war crimes and most people don't even know. Communists across the globe have genocide more people than any other ideology.
Typhus and starvation were a MOFO but it would be a shame for propagandists to let all these deaths go to waste.