Laura Loomer doxxed someone which is why her account was demonitized (this just stops her from making money from posting clickbait). She was never suspended/banned..thats just completely false. And Laura Loomer is where all this "Elon is banning maga accounts for disagreeing with him" bullshit started from.
She now finally apologized for it becasue she needs her blue check/monetization back so she can start making money from clickbait again. Notice she kept quiet about this doxxing reason the whole time this shitstorm was happening.
Laura Loomer has given a grovelling public apology to President-elect Donald Trump‘s AI advisor Sriram Krishnan after she “accidentally doxxed” him.
Loomer took a break from her scheduled programming on X, namely saying Elon Musk is censoring her and then begging for her blue check back, to blurt out the apology after she revealed some of his personal information when she posted his Federal Election Commission records.
he's the only youtuber i follow who isn't trying to gaslight us on this issue. everyone else fucked this issue up bad, trying to call it an op, or completely changed their positions on it stabbing us all in the back.
For this issue we can leave H1B aside. Elon simply believes in limits to free speech. Add in the H1B issue and this reaction, Elon should not be part of the Trump administration.
Elon wants X to be the primary banking platform for crypto currency. This would amount to debunking people for expressing their option.
Elon should NOT be banning ANYONE. Not after 4 years of prattle of him talking about "How important freedom of speech" is.
He just took out a gun and shot him self in the leg. Should he talk about H1B? yes.
Should he support H1B? don't care. Should he ban people over talking about it? NO!
I'm not seeing the connection to Elon in all of this. If the reasoning is "Elon owns X, everything bad that happens is his fault,"... I would ask if the same logic applies to Trump's first presidential term. Is Trump to blame for everything that the Executive Office did from 2017 to 2020?
There are some circumstantial links, but I can't see how this can be laid at Elon's feet. Now, if nothing is done about these demonitizations and bans, then maybe there's a bit of a link. Even so, I'm skeptical of taking anything at face value during these interdasting times.
Elon Musk owns X.
Elon is pro H1-B.
Elon said he'd go to war on this issue.
Elon told detractors to do some face f---ing.
People who oppose Elon's views have been demonitized or banned.
What I can't do, is use those givens tonarrove at these conclusions:
Elon Musk is demonitizing people on X, because they disagree.
Elon Musk is banning people on X, because they disagree.
Elon Musk is against free speech.
Again, I'm not trying to say "Elon good." I just haven't seen any convincing evidence that Elon Musk is personally and purposefully silencing anyone's voice on X.
If I'm wrong, or I've missed something, I'm ENTIRELY willing to admit it. Thank you for your response. You included relevant info, and left out any person attacks on me. I appreciate that, and if you choose to take the time to help me understand your position, I would appreciate that as well.
"Freedom of speech" doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
If a business owner is loudly anti-Trump... that is their freedom of speech. However, I am free to never do business with them as a result.
If a person is supporting abortion, or spouting racism or woke agenda, which is their right... then I am free to not hold an elevator for them, and refuse to help them with anything.
Free speech has seldom been free. There are often consequences.
X mods are suppressing racist rants against Indians since that is one of the primary policies of any social media including this board. People are mistaking that as Elon Musk suppressing free speech.
Laura Loomer ranted many racial slurs against Indians and Chinese, so her chekmark was removed. If you dig all her posts, you will see those.
Its important to behave civilized on any board, courteous and respectful to fellow human beings regardless of race/religion/nationality, and be accurate in our reporting after thorough due diligence.
This is the excuse they are using to cover the fact they are banning people who spoke out against the visa for taking jobs from americans. The moment Elon got ratio'd to hell, all hell broke lose. And regular people got the ban hammer.
I asked Grok to find Laura Loomer's posts that broke X policies, here is what it said -
"Based on information available on X, there have been instances where @LauraLoomer's account has faced consequences for violating content policies. Posts found on X indicate that she was temporarily limited in her account capabilities for 12 hours due to violations of the X Rules. Additionally, there are mentions of her account being flagged for doxxing and using abusive or racist language, although specific posts flagged for these reasons are not detailed in the available information. It's important to note that these details are based on user reports rather than direct evidence from the platform itself."
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Then I asked if its possible to find direct evidence from the platform itself, this is the response:
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Finding direct evidence from the X platform itself about account violations or specific content issues can be challenging due to several reasons:
Privacy and Policy Considerations: X, like many social media platforms, does not publicly disclose detailed information about user violations or account actions taken due to privacy concerns and adherence to their own policies.
Transient Nature of Content: Posts, especially those that violate content policies, are often removed or their visibility is limited, making it difficult to access them after the fact.
Platform Transparency: While X provides some transparency through features like Transparency Reports, these do not typically delve into specifics about individual user accounts or exact posts but rather offer broad insights into enforcement actions.
User Interface Limitations: The interface of X is not designed to display historical data on content policy violations for individual accounts in a publicly accessible manner.
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I suggest anyone blindly accusing X censoring unreasonably, read X content policies and use Grok to do your research, its extremely helpful and find the truth yourself.
I said regular people and you make a long winded post about laura loomer. Literally normal people sharing their stories about losing jobs to this program got banned because Elon got ratio'd
Racist policy is on all social media and forums including here as I given the example for, whether we like it or not. Its not recently installed after this H1B fiasco.
Racial slurs do affect the targets mentally, it is inhumane, unjust and uncalled for. You have to experience to feel it.
Devil is in the details as always. People always want to hide details to push their narratives obscured by high level distractions. Problem is, it takes LOT of time to dig and do the research, which people don't have time or patience. It took me half hour to create that response. I don't have any favoritism towards Elon Musk, he is an enigma and we don't have a clear verdict on him, but we need solid proofs of him wrongdoing. This isn't.
I have just experienced it from Trumps team with Elon and V. Before that it was HRC and the MSNBC crews.
It is OK to HATE WHITE MEN, Christens, straight people. It can leak out through new wording or direct like being called retards by people wanting to clean up the government.
Being called a racist sort of means nothing like being called Hitler. The one thing is does not do... remove hate... it actually seems to foment it.
I do appreciate the view points and discussion about this.
People bottle it up and it comes out at the moments of emotional outbursts. If one has to evolve spiritually, he/she must face all types of verbal abuse. Trump indeed endured all of it and still stands tall. When one has clear consciousness of doing right thing he/she would care less what others call him/her.
Laura Loomer doxxed someone which is why her account was demonitized (this just stops her from making money from posting clickbait). She was never suspended/banned..thats just completely false. And Laura Loomer is where all this "Elon is banning maga accounts for disagreeing with him" bullshit started from.
She now finally apologized for it becasue she needs her blue check/monetization back so she can start making money from clickbait again. Notice she kept quiet about this doxxing reason the whole time this shitstorm was happening.
Never trusted Laura Loomer. Drama city.
Thank you.
He also banned the account of a mother that relayed her son’s inability to get a tech job due to H1B taking all of the entry level positions.
There is zero evidence that happened.
he's the only youtuber i follow who isn't trying to gaslight us on this issue. everyone else fucked this issue up bad, trying to call it an op, or completely changed their positions on it stabbing us all in the back.
For this issue we can leave H1B aside. Elon simply believes in limits to free speech. Add in the H1B issue and this reaction, Elon should not be part of the Trump administration.
Elon wants X to be the primary banking platform for crypto currency. This would amount to debunking people for expressing their option.
Seems very Democratic of him.
wow.
Is he banning those who speak out or those who do NOT UNDERSTAND the difference between H1B visas and bought H1B visas?
Elon should NOT be banning ANYONE. Not after 4 years of prattle of him talking about "How important freedom of speech" is.
He just took out a gun and shot him self in the leg. Should he talk about H1B? yes. Should he support H1B? don't care. Should he ban people over talking about it? NO!
exactly, he shouldn't be banning people for disagreeing with him. he's fucking psychotic.
At the very least, sociopathic.
I'm not seeing the connection to Elon in all of this. If the reasoning is "Elon owns X, everything bad that happens is his fault,"... I would ask if the same logic applies to Trump's first presidential term. Is Trump to blame for everything that the Executive Office did from 2017 to 2020?
There are some circumstantial links, but I can't see how this can be laid at Elon's feet. Now, if nothing is done about these demonitizations and bans, then maybe there's a bit of a link. Even so, I'm skeptical of taking anything at face value during these interdasting times.
you really missed the boat didn't you
Elon wanted to “go to war on this issue” and telling detractors to “F— yourself,”
I do not dispute the following:
Elon Musk owns X. Elon is pro H1-B. Elon said he'd go to war on this issue. Elon told detractors to do some face f---ing. People who oppose Elon's views have been demonitized or banned.
What I can't do, is use those givens tonarrove at these conclusions:
Elon Musk is demonitizing people on X, because they disagree. Elon Musk is banning people on X, because they disagree. Elon Musk is against free speech.
Again, I'm not trying to say "Elon good." I just haven't seen any convincing evidence that Elon Musk is personally and purposefully silencing anyone's voice on X.
If I'm wrong, or I've missed something, I'm ENTIRELY willing to admit it. Thank you for your response. You included relevant info, and left out any person attacks on me. I appreciate that, and if you choose to take the time to help me understand your position, I would appreciate that as well.
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I don't know anymore. Axios is the best but LL got banned for a dox via public info. It lists a few others.
https://www.axios.com/2024/12/27/musk-x-loomer-h1b-maga-verification
I might be into Bongio rule territory wait at least 24 hours.
Deplorable, Racist, White Supremacist, ... now add mediocre and lazy. Our politicians sure love us!
"Freedom of speech" doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
If a business owner is loudly anti-Trump... that is their freedom of speech. However, I am free to never do business with them as a result.
If a person is supporting abortion, or spouting racism or woke agenda, which is their right... then I am free to not hold an elevator for them, and refuse to help them with anything.
Free speech has seldom been free. There are often consequences.
Expressing your political option is a free speech issue. This WAS ELON's reason for buying Twitter... did we just all forget that?
X mods are suppressing racist rants against Indians since that is one of the primary policies of any social media including this board. People are mistaking that as Elon Musk suppressing free speech.
Laura Loomer ranted many racial slurs against Indians and Chinese, so her chekmark was removed. If you dig all her posts, you will see those.
Racist posts are not entertained on any board. You want an example here? https://greatawakening.win/p/19A12uUcOy/im-a-6/ (comments are permanently removed and accounts are nuked).
Its important to behave civilized on any board, courteous and respectful to fellow human beings regardless of race/religion/nationality, and be accurate in our reporting after thorough due diligence.
This is the excuse they are using to cover the fact they are banning people who spoke out against the visa for taking jobs from americans. The moment Elon got ratio'd to hell, all hell broke lose. And regular people got the ban hammer.
u/HenryTheRed
I asked Grok to find Laura Loomer's posts that broke X policies, here is what it said -
"Based on information available on X, there have been instances where @LauraLoomer's account has faced consequences for violating content policies. Posts found on X indicate that she was temporarily limited in her account capabilities for 12 hours due to violations of the X Rules. Additionally, there are mentions of her account being flagged for doxxing and using abusive or racist language, although specific posts flagged for these reasons are not detailed in the available information. It's important to note that these details are based on user reports rather than direct evidence from the platform itself."
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Then I asked if its possible to find direct evidence from the platform itself, this is the response:
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Finding direct evidence from the X platform itself about account violations or specific content issues can be challenging due to several reasons:
Privacy and Policy Considerations: X, like many social media platforms, does not publicly disclose detailed information about user violations or account actions taken due to privacy concerns and adherence to their own policies.
Transient Nature of Content: Posts, especially those that violate content policies, are often removed or their visibility is limited, making it difficult to access them after the fact.
Platform Transparency: While X provides some transparency through features like Transparency Reports, these do not typically delve into specifics about individual user accounts or exact posts but rather offer broad insights into enforcement actions.
User Interface Limitations: The interface of X is not designed to display historical data on content policy violations for individual accounts in a publicly accessible manner.
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I suggest anyone blindly accusing X censoring unreasonably, read X content policies and use Grok to do your research, its extremely helpful and find the truth yourself.
Here is an evidence of Laura admitting about doxxing - https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1873235570320916488
Here is a testimonial from an Indian account about Laura's racist remarks - https://x.com/RituRathaur/status/1872899004356542645
Another user: https://x.com/Peaceluvwoodstk/status/1873056926470418590
Note, Laura already has another backup account with blue checkmark still active - https://x.com/LoomerUnleashed
I said regular people and you make a long winded post about laura loomer. Literally normal people sharing their stories about losing jobs to this program got banned because Elon got ratio'd
👍 I only care about the doxing to be honest.
Being a 'racist' is just a ploy to lose rights. There are clear laws about inciting violence. The rest is really just authoritarianism bull shit.
Elon took what could have been a clear and surgical like strike about the issue and decided to launch a starship off of it.
Now if the move was for everyone to 'look here' then it might have been brilliant.
Racist policy is on all social media and forums including here as I given the example for, whether we like it or not. Its not recently installed after this H1B fiasco.
Racial slurs do affect the targets mentally, it is inhumane, unjust and uncalled for. You have to experience to feel it.
Devil is in the details as always. People always want to hide details to push their narratives obscured by high level distractions. Problem is, it takes LOT of time to dig and do the research, which people don't have time or patience. It took me half hour to create that response. I don't have any favoritism towards Elon Musk, he is an enigma and we don't have a clear verdict on him, but we need solid proofs of him wrongdoing. This isn't.
I have just experienced it from Trumps team with Elon and V. Before that it was HRC and the MSNBC crews.
It is OK to HATE WHITE MEN, Christens, straight people. It can leak out through new wording or direct like being called retards by people wanting to clean up the government.
Being called a racist sort of means nothing like being called Hitler. The one thing is does not do... remove hate... it actually seems to foment it.
I do appreciate the view points and discussion about this.
People bottle it up and it comes out at the moments of emotional outbursts. If one has to evolve spiritually, he/she must face all types of verbal abuse. Trump indeed endured all of it and still stands tall. When one has clear consciousness of doing right thing he/she would care less what others call him/her.
Most of us do not care for Trump at this moment. Just another Tech bro. Meh.
Racist rants are free speech. you don't have to read them .
I may agree with you, but mods of social media don't and they have strict policies.
Racist rants aren't my thing. I go where the Racists hang out more freedom and unfiltered info there.