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Freedom of speech? : Elon Musk RAGES & DEMONITIZES & BANS Conservatives Speaking Out Against H1-B Immigration (rumble.com)
posted 7 months ago by HenryTheRed 7 months ago by HenryTheRed +46 / -2
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– AllMostThere 6 points 7 months ago +6 / -0

Laura Loomer doxxed someone which is why her account was demonitized (this just stops her from making money from posting clickbait). She was never suspended/banned..thats just completely false. And Laura Loomer is where all this "Elon is banning maga accounts for disagreeing with him" bullshit started from.

She now finally apologized for it becasue she needs her blue check/monetization back so she can start making money from clickbait again. Notice she kept quiet about this doxxing reason the whole time this shitstorm was happening.

Laura Loomer has given a grovelling public apology to President-elect Donald Trump‘s AI advisor Sriram Krishnan after she “accidentally doxxed” him.

Loomer took a break from her scheduled programming on X, namely saying Elon Musk is censoring her and then begging for her blue check back, to blurt out the apology after she revealed some of his personal information when she posted his Federal Election Commission records.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/laura-loomer-apologizes-after-she-doxxes-trumps-ai-guy/

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– supertootsday 5 points 7 months ago +5 / -0

Never trusted Laura Loomer. Drama city.

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– HenryTheRed [S] 2 points 7 months ago +2 / -0

Thank you.

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– BurnNewHistoryBooks 2 points 7 months ago +2 / -0

He also banned the account of a mother that relayed her son’s inability to get a tech job due to H1B taking all of the entry level positions.

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– AllMostThere 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

There is zero evidence that happened.

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– escapefromearth 3 points 7 months ago +3 / -0

he's the only youtuber i follow who isn't trying to gaslight us on this issue. everyone else fucked this issue up bad, trying to call it an op, or completely changed their positions on it stabbing us all in the back.

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– HenryTheRed [S] 2 points 7 months ago +5 / -3

For this issue we can leave H1B aside. Elon simply believes in limits to free speech. Add in the H1B issue and this reaction, Elon should not be part of the Trump administration.

Elon wants X to be the primary banking platform for crypto currency. This would amount to debunking people for expressing their option.

Seems very Democratic of him.

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– 1baldeagle 2 points 7 months ago +2 / -0

wow.

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– aumone 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

Is he banning those who speak out or those who do NOT UNDERSTAND the difference between H1B visas and bought H1B visas?

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– HenryTheRed [S] 5 points 7 months ago +5 / -0

Elon should NOT be banning ANYONE. Not after 4 years of prattle of him talking about "How important freedom of speech" is.

He just took out a gun and shot him self in the leg. Should he talk about H1B? yes. Should he support H1B? don't care. Should he ban people over talking about it? NO!

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– escapefromearth 2 points 7 months ago +3 / -1

exactly, he shouldn't be banning people for disagreeing with him. he's fucking psychotic.

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– Jtkirk5598 1 point 6 months ago +1 / -0

At the very least, sociopathic.

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– Scwurtle 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

I'm not seeing the connection to Elon in all of this. If the reasoning is "Elon owns X, everything bad that happens is his fault,"... I would ask if the same logic applies to Trump's first presidential term. Is Trump to blame for everything that the Executive Office did from 2017 to 2020?

There are some circumstantial links, but I can't see how this can be laid at Elon's feet. Now, if nothing is done about these demonitizations and bans, then maybe there's a bit of a link. Even so, I'm skeptical of taking anything at face value during these interdasting times.

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– escapefromearth 2 points 7 months ago +2 / -0

you really missed the boat didn't you

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– HenryTheRed [S] 2 points 7 months ago +2 / -0

Elon wanted to “go to war on this issue” and telling detractors to “F— yourself,”

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– Scwurtle 2 points 7 months ago +2 / -0

I do not dispute the following:

Elon Musk owns X. Elon is pro H1-B. Elon said he'd go to war on this issue. Elon told detractors to do some face f---ing. People who oppose Elon's views have been demonitized or banned.

What I can't do, is use those givens tonarrove at these conclusions:

Elon Musk is demonitizing people on X, because they disagree. Elon Musk is banning people on X, because they disagree. Elon Musk is against free speech.

Again, I'm not trying to say "Elon good." I just haven't seen any convincing evidence that Elon Musk is personally and purposefully silencing anyone's voice on X.

If I'm wrong, or I've missed something, I'm ENTIRELY willing to admit it. Thank you for your response. You included relevant info, and left out any person attacks on me. I appreciate that, and if you choose to take the time to help me understand your position, I would appreciate that as well.

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– HenryTheRed [S] 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

👍

I don't know anymore. Axios is the best but LL got banned for a dox via public info. It lists a few others.

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/27/musk-x-loomer-h1b-maga-verification

I might be into Bongio rule territory wait at least 24 hours.


Deplorable, Racist, White Supremacist, ... now add mediocre and lazy. Our politicians sure love us!

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– Retaining_H2O 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

"Freedom of speech" doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

If a business owner is loudly anti-Trump... that is their freedom of speech. However, I am free to never do business with them as a result.

If a person is supporting abortion, or spouting racism or woke agenda, which is their right... then I am free to not hold an elevator for them, and refuse to help them with anything.

Free speech has seldom been free. There are often consequences.

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– HenryTheRed [S] 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

Expressing your political option is a free speech issue. This WAS ELON's reason for buying Twitter... did we just all forget that?

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– escapefromearth 2 points 7 months ago +2 / -0

This is the excuse they are using to cover the fact they are banning people who spoke out against the visa for taking jobs from americans. The moment Elon got ratio'd to hell, all hell broke lose. And regular people got the ban hammer.

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– escapefromearth 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

I said regular people and you make a long winded post about laura loomer. Literally normal people sharing their stories about losing jobs to this program got banned because Elon got ratio'd

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– HenryTheRed [S] 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

👍 I only care about the doxing to be honest.

Being a 'racist' is just a ploy to lose rights. There are clear laws about inciting violence. The rest is really just authoritarianism bull shit.

Elon took what could have been a clear and surgical like strike about the issue and decided to launch a starship off of it.

Now if the move was for everyone to 'look here' then it might have been brilliant.

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– HenryTheRed [S] 1 point 6 months ago +1 / -0

I have just experienced it from Trumps team with Elon and V. Before that it was HRC and the MSNBC crews.

It is OK to HATE WHITE MEN, Christens, straight people. It can leak out through new wording or direct like being called retards by people wanting to clean up the government.

Being called a racist sort of means nothing like being called Hitler. The one thing is does not do... remove hate... it actually seems to foment it.

I do appreciate the view points and discussion about this.

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– HenryTheRed [S] 1 point 6 months ago +1 / -0

Most of us do not care for Trump at this moment. Just another Tech bro. Meh.

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– 1baldeagle 1 point 7 months ago +1 / -0

Racist rants are free speech. you don't have to read them .

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– 1baldeagle 1 point 6 months ago +1 / -0

Racist rants aren't my thing. I go where the Racists hang out more freedom and unfiltered info there.

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