I like how everyone is suddenly taking China at face value. Disregarding their history of lying to save face and make geopolitical opponents look bad. Much like our own Government come to think of it.
I’d imagine this is going to be a Sputnik moment though. And a lot of people in the AI field are getting very sternly worded messages and promises of more funding.
This coding was very likely not stolen from any of the big players in the West. If you follow ai development closely you will know that the main track of progress for the big dogs has been spending more money on more robust chips and compute.
Meanwhile, Chinese companies like the one behind deepseek have been denied access to these cutting edge chips, and they supposedly trained this model on inferior chips. This model's improvements were made through algorithmic progress, not by just throwing more compute or expensive hardware at the well.
What's more, this model is completely open source with open weights. There are people running the local models on their computer and even got it to output info about tiananmen square and the censorship surrounding it. Whereas their webchat version is much more censored.
And how is that supposed to make me feel better? Because recent events and embarrassments within the OSS community has severely damaged my trust in the community's ability to detect malicious code on a timely basis. Sure nothing too damaging has occurred yet, but it is more to dumb luck than actual strength in the OSS community.
And with the CCP likely backing this DeepSeek project, I will refuse to rely on dumb luck to keep my systems safe from CCP attacks.
I like how everyone is suddenly taking China at face value. Disregarding their history of lying to save face and make geopolitical opponents look bad. Much like our own Government come to think of it.
I’d imagine this is going to be a Sputnik moment though. And a lot of people in the AI field are getting very sternly worded messages and promises of more funding.
I am not.
I have known China for lying about their tech for years, why wouldn't they lie about their AI achievements?
I bet they stole the AI coding too.
^^This^^
This coding was very likely not stolen from any of the big players in the West. If you follow ai development closely you will know that the main track of progress for the big dogs has been spending more money on more robust chips and compute.
Meanwhile, Chinese companies like the one behind deepseek have been denied access to these cutting edge chips, and they supposedly trained this model on inferior chips. This model's improvements were made through algorithmic progress, not by just throwing more compute or expensive hardware at the well.
What's more, this model is completely open source with open weights. There are people running the local models on their computer and even got it to output info about tiananmen square and the censorship surrounding it. Whereas their webchat version is much more censored.
And how is that supposed to make me feel better? Because recent events and embarrassments within the OSS community has severely damaged my trust in the community's ability to detect malicious code on a timely basis. Sure nothing too damaging has occurred yet, but it is more to dumb luck than actual strength in the OSS community.
And with the CCP likely backing this DeepSeek project, I will refuse to rely on dumb luck to keep my systems safe from CCP attacks.