For a quick moment, imagine you were born in 1900. When you are 14, World War I starts, and ends on your 18th birthday with 22 million people killed. Later in the year, a Spanish Flu epidemic hits the planet and runs until you are 20. Fifty million people die from it in those two years. Yes, 50 million.
When you're 29, the Great Depression begins. Unemployment hits 25%, global GDP drops 27%. That runs until you are 33. The country nearly collapses along with the world economy. When you turn 39, World War II starts. You aren’t even over the hill yet.
When you're 41, the United States is fully pulled into WWII. Between your 39th and 45th birthday, 75 million people perish in the war and the Holocaust kills six million. At 52, the Korean War starts and five million perish.
At 64 the Vietnam War begins, and it doesn’t end for many years. Four million people die in that conflict. Approaching your 62nd birthday you have the Cuban Missile Crisis, a tipping point in the Cold War. Life on our planet, as we know it, could well have ended. Great leaders prevented that from happening.
As you turn 75, the Vietnam War finally ends. Think of everyone on the planet born in 1900. How do you survive all of that? A child in 1985 didn’t think their 85 year old grandparent understood how hard school was. Yet those grandparents survived through everything listed above.
Perspective is an amazing thing. With so much going on right now and 2024 just beginning, let's try to put things in perspective, knowing that we can handle it all. There has never been a storm in world history that has lasted forever. This too shall pass.
Wow. You have brilliantly illustrated how far this board has strayed from its origin and source, the Q operation.
Q was an elite operation, inspiring a totally unprecedented worldwide movement of researchers, investigators, truth tellers and thinkers.
The fact that you state that there is "nothing wrong with giving sources, but its not mandatory" just shows that GAW has become a social media website, and strayed deeply from its real purpose.
Thank you.
And yet, this poster consistently, continuously REFUSES to respond to any such requests. So, do you mean, "Oh, it's OK if you ask for source, but no one posting here should have to provide it if they simply do not want to"?
u/bubble_bursts
u/fatality
Whoever needs to hear this:
Its kind of crazy that I was having the exact same debate with another poster on another thread by the same OP.
It goes WITHOUT SAYING (but we still keep saying ) that SAUCE is very important. You can post sauceless posts on facebook or telegram and have it be effective, but out here in GAW you are just wasting everyones time if you refuse to post sauce, esp when its just a question of pasting what you already have.
Posting sauceless content is how misinfo is laundered amongst good info by the channels that are controlled oppositions. Those who post them without thinking twice or even checking once, are becoming tools of these enemies.
"Maybe, I'm too far in one ditch and you're too far in another?" I was about to applaud you for making an effort to see the other side, but in the full reading, it's clear that you are just being silly. You paint an extreme, irrelevant example, and attempt to win rhetorical points with it? Sigh.
What a load of nonsense. The OP is not Q and this is not the Q board.
Yes, there is a valid distinction between certain types of post. Informational posts, for example require sauce. Opinion does not, at least not in the same way.
For informational posts, unless one is a complete newbie, not providing sauce is just plain lazy, and shows a disregard for all the other participants who make an effort to apply good practice.
Opinion or just discussion, these are a different type of post. Opinion does not require sauce for confirmation. They should, however, if not original, be honestly attributed to the original creator or origin (credit given where it is due).
OldPatriot does neither.
For some reason, you think this is relevant?
I do not care if people care. I care. I've been here more than four years. I think the board has a relevant role to play, and is worth the effort. I've invested a LOT of effort and time here. People that value that know it.
People who simply do not care can do what they want. But I do not count them among any of the participants I value engagement with here.
The real issue is a thorough and resolute disregard for the board standards, the purpose of the board, and the parameters that the creators here established. If it was incompetence, it would be a different issue. But, the poster's track record shows it clearly isn't.
Plagiarism is only plagiarism if the person intends to make a false representation. Sharing stuff on faesbuk, or twitter, or social media, people can do what they like. It's not plagiarism, because they are not pretending they are the origin of the material. It's just sharing.
This is not what the poster here does. His track record and behavior show it.
Do you think its a virtue that some people do not care about the quality or purpose of this board? Such people are exceedingly happy to take, but they do not give. They don't put in any effort to develop it, or upgrade it, or maintain the board. These are not pedes, or frogs. They are fly-by-night participants who take only with a thought for themselves. Ask a mod what they think.
Of those so-called positive comments, how many came away praising the poster for his thoughts, his comments, with a complete misunderstanding about the origin of the sentiments? Did you notice that the poster made zero effort to correct any mistaken attribution to himself?
How much have you done this? You've been here one year, have made zero posts, and have a comment record of less than 2k. The score is irrelevant, but it shows the extent of your engagement.
Somehow, I really do not think you have any foundation to lecture me on what is or should be standard practice here.
Yeah, nah. You have shown that you have no grasp of the issues, and in your fantasy world, you draw comparisons with Q not posting sauce, or the relationship between law and grace. You've missed the point so badly, it's ludicrous.
Frogs like myself are very grateful for sincere, good-faith participation, at whatever level can be done. Because, yes, indeed, not everyone has the time, or the skills to participate on all levels.
But OP has been doing this for three years, and consistently flaunted any effort in adhering to board standards, which exist to advance and benefit the whole board population, not a single, self-indulgent poster. He consistently ignores it when anyone asks for source, or comments on the absence, or even incorrectly attributes work to him when its not his. And yet, he can copy paste, and format, and apply text as suits the forum.
You're argument in defense of him is just plain silly. And if you were not so condescending or smug, I might thank you for it. As it is, I'll simply give you a blessing, and see you on your way.
Edit: Although I do think you are engaging in good faith, and I don't fault you for your lack of skills (if this is what they are), but in my view, you're simply dead wrong on this issue, and your reasoning is frankly nutso. But hey, maybe that's just you. Either way, have a great day.
And, in case you missed it, we have here a comment from a mod. Might be worth your considering it.
Now it makes sense. Now I understand why you were getting your feathers up, and rightly so. You're talking about posts, and I'm talking about regular comments, for some reason I was locked into comments (a brain freeze) I think the reason that happened is because the old Patriot post that started all this, I took as more like a comment,information that was readily known and it didn't register on me that it was a post. But when you said that I had made roughly 2,000 comments but zero posts, and click a light went on. My bad, I agree when it comes to posts, they should be scrutinized, and held to a high standard otherwise you'll have people posting all kinds of nonsense, wasting a lot of people's time,, and people like yourself would end up spending more time correcting them, then doing the good job of posting as you have been. Thank you for your hard work.
Ideas are not free my dude. They cost time. Do the right thing by linking the sauce at least. Its complete disrespect to the person who wrote it originally.
Well said.
It's all about integrity and respect.
It's concerning that not only do so few people have it or give it, but that it's openly and actively scorned when pointed out that people should do it.
I thought about making a point by copying your comment and making it a post, but then I realized how retarded your comment actually is and decided it would be a bad example.
Read his comments on this post leading anons to falsely believe he wrote this.
Oldpatriot (the "contractor" that somehow has time to make 20 posts here every day) is straight up deceiving other anons by doing this crap.
Do you know what the bible says about "deceit"?
Easy tiger. (You remind me a lot of the month of March you come in like a lamb and go out like a lion) in response to your comment, I just now read all the comments up to this time regarding this post, nowhere that I saw does "oldPatriot" say he is the originator of all the thoughts in his post (nor did I get that impression)and it seems neither did 33 other people, who seem truly thankful that he posted it. In response to others commenting on the original post, as best as I can gather "oldpatriot" just says he agrees with how hard they had it in that day and in the other comments to people he says, he agreed with what they said. To this time, 33 positive comments, three negative, which of the three you are one, and then interestingly you point out to me how "oldpatriot" somehow has time to make 20 posts here everyday. Hummmmm? Do you see it? What does the Bible say about deceit (you ask) God's word (the holy scriptures) speaks about deceit, the same way it does about compassion, understanding, Mercy, and treating others as you would have them treat you. My original comment, was to hopefully reveal how we are quick to point out the deceit (that we think) is in others (yet don't really know) as we overlook the deceit in our own lives. Truly, We are all guilty of deceit (deceiving ourselves). And plagiarizing,when we take credit for anything without giving the credit to God, from whom absolutely everything originates, without whom, we could do nothing. Once we realize this, we (hopefully) drop the stones representing our belief, that we are not like others (when we are) and we would never do what they did (when we do). "Deceiving ourselves"(James 1:22)