Preface: I don't know shit about this because I care so little that I've totally ignored it. That aside-
To be fair, if it went straight up, was only in "space" for a few minutes, then came straight back down (which is my understanding), it would not be at all surprising that the capsule is not heat damaged, because it never achieved even close to orbital velocity. This can be done by hobby rockets with GoPros on them, and they too come back down unscathed. Weather balloons go nearly as high, that red bull guy that skydived from "space" also did so from about the same height.
Now, that's not saying they didn't fake it, but that the capsule isn't scorched simply isn't proof it is fake- it's only proof that this rocket didn't do much more than an airplane can.
Wait a minute. Ok, I'll try to learn something here.... Are you saying this particular space craft never left Earth's atmosphere? It just hit the top edge of it and then fell back? It never got into space, yet from some of the pics I saw they were weightless, I'm sitting here scratching my head, wondering how they never left the atmosphere yet are experiencing zero gravity. I'm not trying to stir the pot or anything like that. I've always believed that there was a boundary between the Earth's atmosphere and outer space. Only after you passed into outer space would a person become weightless, yet while inside of the atmosphere a person would have some gravity pulling on them, thus how could they float inside of the spacecraft. As far as the thermal mass not being scorched, it seems to me that if a object were to fall from twenty five miles, or so, above the Earth, wouldn't there be friction that might heat up the exterior and discolor it? Hey, killerspacerobot, thanks for taking the time to read my response. I'm sure from your reply above your are a lot more educated in the area of aerodynamics of a spacecraft than I. I appreciate your efforts to guide me into making better replies. Sometimes I type what pops into my head without considering the end results. Apologies if I come off as a know it all. God bless.
There is no sharp demarcation. It's not like you will see a balloon floating with a sign saying, "Here be the edge of space." The Von Karman Line at 100 km was chosen as a legal demarcation because below it, aerodynamic forces are predominant, and above it ballistic forces are predominant. They crossed the Line, so they are in "space" for all legal purposes. If they had stepped out unprotected, that would have been no less fatal than at a higher altitude. There is still vestigial atmosphere at higher altitudes. The International Space Station occasionally needs to "reboost" its orbit due to decay by atmospheric drag.
You can get weightless in a falling elevator car (no good ending) or in an airplane that flies a parabolic arch trajectory. A training aircraft for that purpose was nicknamed the Vomit Comet for good reason. So, what was happening with the Blue Origin passengers was that they were shot straight up and when the thrust ceased, were therefore subject to "free fall" (uniform acceleration of gravity) up to, at, and after their peak altitude.
They are falling with an initial velocity of zero, and as the drag increases, the descent acceleration decreases and they stop being weightless. All such bodies reach what is called a "terminal velocity" where the drag equals its weight, usually no faster than a hundred miles per hour or so. Not nearly fast enough to scorch anything. We have automobiles you can buy (e.g., Bugatti) that are capable of reaching 400 mph, which was once considered a land speed record. No scorching. Jetliners fly at 600+ mph. No scorching.
I hope that clears things up. Always willing to answer a sincere question. No snark.
That's because the Space X capsule re-entered at ~11 km/sec and the Blue Origin capsule re-entered at 0 km/sec. The person making this meme doesn't know shit about re-entry environments.
...the only thing "fried" concerning the Blue Origin capsule is its occupants...
The whole thing was just stupid— the resulting “reels” etc are hilarious— what a PR stunt joke that apparently fooled almost no one 😆
Preface: I don't know shit about this because I care so little that I've totally ignored it. That aside-
To be fair, if it went straight up, was only in "space" for a few minutes, then came straight back down (which is my understanding), it would not be at all surprising that the capsule is not heat damaged, because it never achieved even close to orbital velocity. This can be done by hobby rockets with GoPros on them, and they too come back down unscathed. Weather balloons go nearly as high, that red bull guy that skydived from "space" also did so from about the same height.
Now, that's not saying they didn't fake it, but that the capsule isn't scorched simply isn't proof it is fake- it's only proof that this rocket didn't do much more than an airplane can.
And people believe all those windows wouldn't create stress points upon reentry? And the paint was non marring. Pretty advanced technology.
A straight up ---- then down doesn't go that fast.
I wondered about that with Burt Rutan's SpaceShipOne (2000 mph)
re-entry speed from orbit is 17,500 mph (about 9 times faster)
u/#correct
Orbital reentry is a much different beast than simple free fall through atmosphere
For those wanting sauce: look at the size of the new shepard booster vs the falcon 9 booster. New shepard is the size of a tic tac
Considering there was no thermal environment on re-entry, it is no worse than passenger windows on a jetliner. Learn more, opine less.
Wait a minute. Ok, I'll try to learn something here.... Are you saying this particular space craft never left Earth's atmosphere? It just hit the top edge of it and then fell back? It never got into space, yet from some of the pics I saw they were weightless, I'm sitting here scratching my head, wondering how they never left the atmosphere yet are experiencing zero gravity. I'm not trying to stir the pot or anything like that. I've always believed that there was a boundary between the Earth's atmosphere and outer space. Only after you passed into outer space would a person become weightless, yet while inside of the atmosphere a person would have some gravity pulling on them, thus how could they float inside of the spacecraft. As far as the thermal mass not being scorched, it seems to me that if a object were to fall from twenty five miles, or so, above the Earth, wouldn't there be friction that might heat up the exterior and discolor it? Hey, killerspacerobot, thanks for taking the time to read my response. I'm sure from your reply above your are a lot more educated in the area of aerodynamics of a spacecraft than I. I appreciate your efforts to guide me into making better replies. Sometimes I type what pops into my head without considering the end results. Apologies if I come off as a know it all. God bless.
There is no sharp demarcation. It's not like you will see a balloon floating with a sign saying, "Here be the edge of space." The Von Karman Line at 100 km was chosen as a legal demarcation because below it, aerodynamic forces are predominant, and above it ballistic forces are predominant. They crossed the Line, so they are in "space" for all legal purposes. If they had stepped out unprotected, that would have been no less fatal than at a higher altitude. There is still vestigial atmosphere at higher altitudes. The International Space Station occasionally needs to "reboost" its orbit due to decay by atmospheric drag.
You can get weightless in a falling elevator car (no good ending) or in an airplane that flies a parabolic arch trajectory. A training aircraft for that purpose was nicknamed the Vomit Comet for good reason. So, what was happening with the Blue Origin passengers was that they were shot straight up and when the thrust ceased, were therefore subject to "free fall" (uniform acceleration of gravity) up to, at, and after their peak altitude.
They are falling with an initial velocity of zero, and as the drag increases, the descent acceleration decreases and they stop being weightless. All such bodies reach what is called a "terminal velocity" where the drag equals its weight, usually no faster than a hundred miles per hour or so. Not nearly fast enough to scorch anything. We have automobiles you can buy (e.g., Bugatti) that are capable of reaching 400 mph, which was once considered a land speed record. No scorching. Jetliners fly at 600+ mph. No scorching.
I hope that clears things up. Always willing to answer a sincere question. No snark.
It landed on the shore, in the sand. It looks like a bouncy house made of plastic and inflated. Well that's not fake and ghey at all.
I thought that the launch and landing was in West Texas. They must have meant West Texas, California.
One is actual space.
The other barely made it to low Earth orbit
One is actually in orbit, the other barely made it to space.
Less scorching, thanks to all the lube the ladies brought with them.
It was sub orbital. Just enough to officially call it space (62 miles up). The X-15 could zoom up there.
That's because the Space X capsule re-entered at ~11 km/sec and the Blue Origin capsule re-entered at 0 km/sec. The person making this meme doesn't know shit about re-entry environments.
Both fake and gay...
u/#clownworld
Jeff Bozo jealous of Elon's space dominance... Such a fake looking flimsy thing, I guess he is too cheap to make a decent fake.