VERY WELL Put...IF more people went to church (NO MATTER WHICH ONE) this country would be in better shape...this all started in the '60s nonsense...Time for this nonsense to end!!!!
I beg to respectfully differ. I was born overseas to military family, came to this country when I was about 10.
When I turned 12, I was baptized Lutheran (my mother’s religious background). This was about the start of the “Born Again” movement that I had never heard, but went mainstream, I guess. Among the tenets were love everyone, forgive everything, ignore all else. As a result, going through confirmation two years later, a number my peers were solidly into sex and drugs (pot, but some pills and worse), smoking, and of course, tons of alcohol.
There was no solid faith leadership, even then. No admonition of how harmful sin was, that we are all poor and humble sinners and our only salvation is to give ourselves to God and Christ is our hope for salvation.
I went to that exact church 20-25 years later for a friend’s wedding of his son. I could not recognize the place. Rainbow designs all over, LGTB and whatever else was an in-your-face priority, the “pastor” was clearly a lesbian woman with a “wife” it turns out, and of course, calls to donate and host mass import of sub-sarharans to give them a better life. A Jews for Jesus poster was prominent.
Martin Luther must have been rolling over in his grave. If you know anything about the man, none of this is what he stood for. I sadly said goodbye forever. I hear it’s turned, but I’ll never go back to that denomination or specifically that church.
So, if you choose a church, choose a faithful, accurately representing one. Jesus did not tolerate sin, he called the sinners to repent, which is why he preferred to be with them. Any church focused on growing and getting money, and those that have lost their way to the Word of God need to be shunned.
Secular denominations are dead ends. They feed the emotion only. The Word of God is the will of God. It feeds the mind but pray tell how done feed the spirit? My Bible says we do it by operating speaking in tongues. Every believer should be doing it as we all have the ability. We simply don't all have the believing. Learn about that powerful leaver of spiritual worship. Read receiving the holy spirit today by V.P. weirwille. It changed my life. No more secular churchianity for me.
2 Timothy 3:5 - Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
The Pentecostals will say that if you don’t speak in tongues, you aren’t saved. I don’t buy that at all, but it probably is good real evidence that someone likely is saved.
I.e. it’s a one-way indicator not a bi-directional dependency.
In 1 Cor. 14, it is not speaking in tongues that is emphasized, it is prophesying. It is prophesying that builds the church (v. 4). "Greater is he who prophesies than he who speaks in tongues...(v. 5). Prophesying isn't necessarily foretelling. It is speaking for God, and even speaking God into others like Peter did on the day of Pentecost. God told Ezekiel to eat this scroll, fill your inward parts, and go, speak My words to the house of Israel (Ez. 3:1-4). In Rev. 10:9-11, this same thing was told to the Apostle John. This was called prophesying in v. 11. Jesus said, He who eats Me, he also shall live because of Me (Jn. 6:57). He wasn't talking about cannibalism. He explained that He was talking about His words, which are spirit and life. When we eat His words, we receive the Spirit, and it is the Spirit who gives life (v. 63).
Yeah, thr context is it is better to prophesy in the church than speak in youngest out loud in the church. Generally the language won't be known by the hearers in the church. Unless he who speaks in tongues believes to interpret that the church can receive edifying. The interpretation would be in the language of he people present. Therefore they get edifier. Then entire context of chapter 14 is the proper operation of the manifesting of lounges, interpretation of tounges and prophesy in the church. Corinthians were messing ot up this was pointing that out. Capter 14 says not to forbid speaking in tongues and let all things (in the church) be decent and in order. It's all there. In context.
If it gives you comfort the fastest growing church’s with the biggest young adult populations are more conservative. The whatever just pay your tithes churches aren’t as it turns out attractive when people hunger for the word but only get styrofoam this is across ALL denominations and the more conservative denominations are the fastest growing
The Catholic church...that worked out well....you might want to wait just a little longer, May isn't even started yet. Wait till you see the REAL CHURCH vs Man Made, you will see it soon. It was NEVER A CHURCH it was about a NATION.
VERY WELL Put...IF more people went to church (NO MATTER WHICH ONE) this country would be in better shape...this all started in the '60s nonsense...Time for this nonsense to end!!!!
I beg to respectfully differ. I was born overseas to military family, came to this country when I was about 10.
When I turned 12, I was baptized Lutheran (my mother’s religious background). This was about the start of the “Born Again” movement that I had never heard, but went mainstream, I guess. Among the tenets were love everyone, forgive everything, ignore all else. As a result, going through confirmation two years later, a number my peers were solidly into sex and drugs (pot, but some pills and worse), smoking, and of course, tons of alcohol.
There was no solid faith leadership, even then. No admonition of how harmful sin was, that we are all poor and humble sinners and our only salvation is to give ourselves to God and Christ is our hope for salvation.
I went to that exact church 20-25 years later for a friend’s wedding of his son. I could not recognize the place. Rainbow designs all over, LGTB and whatever else was an in-your-face priority, the “pastor” was clearly a lesbian woman with a “wife” it turns out, and of course, calls to donate and host mass import of sub-sarharans to give them a better life. A Jews for Jesus poster was prominent.
Martin Luther must have been rolling over in his grave. If you know anything about the man, none of this is what he stood for. I sadly said goodbye forever. I hear it’s turned, but I’ll never go back to that denomination or specifically that church.
So, if you choose a church, choose a faithful, accurately representing one. Jesus did not tolerate sin, he called the sinners to repent, which is why he preferred to be with them. Any church focused on growing and getting money, and those that have lost their way to the Word of God need to be shunned.
AMEN
Secular denominations are dead ends. They feed the emotion only. The Word of God is the will of God. It feeds the mind but pray tell how done feed the spirit? My Bible says we do it by operating speaking in tongues. Every believer should be doing it as we all have the ability. We simply don't all have the believing. Learn about that powerful leaver of spiritual worship. Read receiving the holy spirit today by V.P. weirwille. It changed my life. No more secular churchianity for me.
2 Timothy 3:5 - Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
The Pentecostals will say that if you don’t speak in tongues, you aren’t saved. I don’t buy that at all, but it probably is good real evidence that someone likely is saved.
I.e. it’s a one-way indicator not a bi-directional dependency.
In 1 Cor. 14, it is not speaking in tongues that is emphasized, it is prophesying. It is prophesying that builds the church (v. 4). "Greater is he who prophesies than he who speaks in tongues...(v. 5). Prophesying isn't necessarily foretelling. It is speaking for God, and even speaking God into others like Peter did on the day of Pentecost. God told Ezekiel to eat this scroll, fill your inward parts, and go, speak My words to the house of Israel (Ez. 3:1-4). In Rev. 10:9-11, this same thing was told to the Apostle John. This was called prophesying in v. 11. Jesus said, He who eats Me, he also shall live because of Me (Jn. 6:57). He wasn't talking about cannibalism. He explained that He was talking about His words, which are spirit and life. When we eat His words, we receive the Spirit, and it is the Spirit who gives life (v. 63).
Yeah, thr context is it is better to prophesy in the church than speak in youngest out loud in the church. Generally the language won't be known by the hearers in the church. Unless he who speaks in tongues believes to interpret that the church can receive edifying. The interpretation would be in the language of he people present. Therefore they get edifier. Then entire context of chapter 14 is the proper operation of the manifesting of lounges, interpretation of tounges and prophesy in the church. Corinthians were messing ot up this was pointing that out. Capter 14 says not to forbid speaking in tongues and let all things (in the church) be decent and in order. It's all there. In context.
If it gives you comfort the fastest growing church’s with the biggest young adult populations are more conservative. The whatever just pay your tithes churches aren’t as it turns out attractive when people hunger for the word but only get styrofoam this is across ALL denominations and the more conservative denominations are the fastest growing
The Catholic church...that worked out well....you might want to wait just a little longer, May isn't even started yet. Wait till you see the REAL CHURCH vs Man Made, you will see it soon. It was NEVER A CHURCH it was about a NATION.