“In Moscow offices, it is being discussed that if German troops strike Moscow with German weapons… the only option left for us is to strike Berlin,” she said.
She went on to explain that a Taurus strike on Moscow would have to be prepared and executed by German service members because the Ukrainians “cannot maintain [the Taurus] or program it for flight missions.”
"480 kilogram warhead system. Taurus can fly under enemy radar at high speed at an altitude of less than 50 meters. This makes them difficult to hit by enemy air defenses. On impact with the target, a first charge blows a gap in the wall or ceiling of the target." Search result from Google
This type of targeting requires the latest high-resolution map material, which, as far as I know, only Germany and the USA acquire. The exact programming of the approach must be carried out precisely by well-trained personnel. This personnel is only available at the manufacturer in Schrobenhausen and at the German Armed Forces. The absolutely necessary up-to-dateness of the map material presupposes the presence of German soldiers in the Ukraine.
A recording of an online discussion between senior German air force officers in which the above problems were addressed was leaked back in March 2024. One option discussed there was to provide the control information to the British NATO troops already in Ukraine (target programming and use of the Strom Shadow/SCALP system), as they had the technical capabilities to also use TAURUS systems. The Russian government already warned at the time that this would mean war.
In an editorial, the editor of a Russian military magazine called for the pre-emptive deployment of two Orechniks to destroy the production facilities in Schrobenhausen, which would result in little civilian collateral damage.
In an editorial, the editor of a Russian military magazine called for the pre-emptive deployment of two Orechniks to destroy the production facilities in Schrobenhausen, which would result in little civilian collateral damage.
As I said previously, Russians already know where the missiles are made, and have coordinates.
But it seems that leadership in the West has taken leave of their senses, in their blind hatred.
If Trump wasn’t being bamboozled into Ukraine, we could get out ahead of this and leave NATO asap before article 5 is invoked after an attack on Berlin.
I agree USA should leave NATO. It has been milking the US taxpayer for nearly eighty years. However, being part of NATO was like a badge of honor for US presidents, wasn't it? Hard to give up such power. American presidents were able to wield control over all those impoverished Europeans, with the promise of weapons and 'support'. And then there is the MIC to consider. They NEED MOAR.
IS it the case that Trump will spend more money on the Southern border, and less on Ukrainian borders? We shall find out. As some other posters have pointed out - there is the precipice to consider.
Question. If China sent a missile into America, say landing on Washington, do you think America would retaliate? Yes? No? Every single country has the right to defend itself. Including Russia and America. That’s your answer.
in any case, the Russians are talking of Schrobenhausen - you see, they don't want to glass Berlin, beause this is a Special Military Operation. And you are right, politial leaders are off the menu in an SMO.
Instead, the Oreshniks likely will hit the Taurus factory, prolly at about 4:00 AM, so that they can limit the civvie deaths that way.
Provoke the Russians to declare war, and then Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt, Bonn, what's the diff?
Gotta give it to that professor i had as a college freshman, who said the Germans started both world wars and if there's a third, it will be them again.
“In Moscow offices, it is being discussed that if German troops strike Moscow with German weapons… the only option left for us is to strike Berlin,” she said.
She went on to explain that a Taurus strike on Moscow would have to be prepared and executed by German service members because the Ukrainians “cannot maintain [the Taurus] or program it for flight missions.”
"480 kilogram warhead system. Taurus can fly under enemy radar at high speed at an altitude of less than 50 meters. This makes them difficult to hit by enemy air defenses. On impact with the target, a first charge blows a gap in the wall or ceiling of the target." Search result from Google
This type of targeting requires the latest high-resolution map material, which, as far as I know, only Germany and the USA acquire. The exact programming of the approach must be carried out precisely by well-trained personnel. This personnel is only available at the manufacturer in Schrobenhausen and at the German Armed Forces. The absolutely necessary up-to-dateness of the map material presupposes the presence of German soldiers in the Ukraine.
A recording of an online discussion between senior German air force officers in which the above problems were addressed was leaked back in March 2024. One option discussed there was to provide the control information to the British NATO troops already in Ukraine (target programming and use of the Strom Shadow/SCALP system), as they had the technical capabilities to also use TAURUS systems. The Russian government already warned at the time that this would mean war.
In an editorial, the editor of a Russian military magazine called for the pre-emptive deployment of two Orechniks to destroy the production facilities in Schrobenhausen, which would result in little civilian collateral damage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Taurus_leak https://www.bundle.app/en/breakingNews/full-transcript-of-german-top-military-officials'-leaked-plot-to-attack-crimean-bridge-15a59c62-f695-4d07-852d-788455d17230 https://armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2024/leaked-audio-reveals-german-officials-discussing-taurus-missile-support-for-ukraine https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-taurus-missiles-ukraine-war-russia-leaked-audio/
Do you think Merz is just doing this crap?
4407 Jun 04, 2020 3:39:26 PM EDT Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 00792f No. 9468936 http://www.citypages.com/news/minneapolis-city-council-members-consider-disbanding-the-police/570993291 Important to understand. ONLY AT THE PRECIPICE [moment of destruction] WILL PEOPLE FIND THE WILL TO CHANGE. Q
As I said previously, Russians already know where the missiles are made, and have coordinates.
But it seems that leadership in the West has taken leave of their senses, in their blind hatred.
If Trump wasn’t being bamboozled into Ukraine, we could get out ahead of this and leave NATO asap before article 5 is invoked after an attack on Berlin.
Agreed, but it may be harder than just saying so.
I agree USA should leave NATO. It has been milking the US taxpayer for nearly eighty years. However, being part of NATO was like a badge of honor for US presidents, wasn't it? Hard to give up such power. American presidents were able to wield control over all those impoverished Europeans, with the promise of weapons and 'support'. And then there is the MIC to consider. They NEED MOAR.
IS it the case that Trump will spend more money on the Southern border, and less on Ukrainian borders? We shall find out. As some other posters have pointed out - there is the precipice to consider.
Germany didn't learn the last time I guess.
Indeed. Merz might as well grow that toothbrush mustache.
Question. If China sent a missile into America, say landing on Washington, do you think America would retaliate? Yes? No? Every single country has the right to defend itself. Including Russia and America. That’s your answer.
in any case, the Russians are talking of Schrobenhausen - you see, they don't want to glass Berlin, beause this is a Special Military Operation. And you are right, politial leaders are off the menu in an SMO.
Instead, the Oreshniks likely will hit the Taurus factory, prolly at about 4:00 AM, so that they can limit the civvie deaths that way.
Provoke the Russians to declare war, and then Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt, Bonn, what's the diff?
Gotta give it to that professor i had as a college freshman, who said the Germans started both world wars and if there's a third, it will be them again.