It took years of me being a non-confrontational PITA-by-refusal to help prod that person to come around… on their own… which is one of a small handful of times I’ve been blessed enough to be convincing of something, somehow. Praise be to The Lord!
Proof that u/christine_grab ‘s method works, it’s just hard to execute!!!
Saved it somewhere but don’t see it at the moment. Wasn’t like some 12 step method or anything, just some suggestions like “don’t be overbearing. Not too much information.”
Through something totally not affiliated with politics that happened in my life 20 years ago, I learned the hard way that people will not believe what they see with their own eyes if they don't want to. I learned that if you tell them "Hey, look at this!" they will disregard you. You have to wait for them to ask you about it. Then, when they ask, you have to answer their questions and ONLY their questions, because if you offer more information than they asked about, they will shut down. If you only answer their questions, they will go away and process that information, then come back and ask you another question, go away to process it, etc. But they only come back if you didn't overwhelm them with too much info when they weren't yet emotionally ready to handle it.
I learned that they more often than not do come around, it just takes them time to process that reality is different than what they were led to believe. Some people come around quickly, most take a while, and some will continue to deny it even when what they are denying exists is right in front of them. You can't make them change their perception of reality. They have to want to.
I've found that saying things like, "c'mon dude... you don't actually think XYZ works that way, do you?" can be effective in getting them to admit gullibility to themselves and think about things in a new way.
I've recently had people come back and admit, "When you told me about the child trafficking... I thought you were nuts. Now I can't believe how most people can't see it everywhere...
Bottom line: Keep chipping away even if you think you're not making a difference. Plenty of seeds planted years ago have grown deep roots into the rabbit hole... You just don't know what influence you're having on the world from your perspective... because few will report back that you were right even though they thought you were nuts before.
It's really interesting the opportunities that come up. At a party, a guy was saying that the idea that there was an elite pedophile ring was crazy. I said "Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison right now for running that ring." And I actually saw the lightbulb click on in his head that the propaganda that he'd been fed didn't line up with reality. I believe, at that moment, he became willing to open up his mind to the possibility. I didn't say another word since he didn't initiate, but I'll bet he started digging on his own after that.
It took years of me being a non-confrontational PITA-by-refusal to help prod that person to come around… on their own… which is one of a small handful of times I’ve been blessed enough to be convincing of something, somehow. Praise be to The Lord!
Proof that u/christine_grab ‘s method works, it’s just hard to execute!!!
Congrats on helping someone to open their eyes when they were ready!
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Not familiar with Christine_grab method? Got a pointing?
Saved it somewhere but don’t see it at the moment. Wasn’t like some 12 step method or anything, just some suggestions like “don’t be overbearing. Not too much information.”
u/ILoveIvermectin pointed out the same thing yesterday.
https://greatawakening.win/p/19BtL7Ru0W/x/c/4eVLQNwQxtA
Whereas I tend to be more of an all-firehose, all-the-time kinda operator. HAVE SOME! DRINK IT UP! YUM! GLUG GLUG GLUG
LoL
u/#catpopcorn
Through something totally not affiliated with politics that happened in my life 20 years ago, I learned the hard way that people will not believe what they see with their own eyes if they don't want to. I learned that if you tell them "Hey, look at this!" they will disregard you. You have to wait for them to ask you about it. Then, when they ask, you have to answer their questions and ONLY their questions, because if you offer more information than they asked about, they will shut down. If you only answer their questions, they will go away and process that information, then come back and ask you another question, go away to process it, etc. But they only come back if you didn't overwhelm them with too much info when they weren't yet emotionally ready to handle it.
I learned that they more often than not do come around, it just takes them time to process that reality is different than what they were led to believe. Some people come around quickly, most take a while, and some will continue to deny it even when what they are denying exists is right in front of them. You can't make them change their perception of reality. They have to want to.
Yep ... this has been my experience as well.
I've found that saying things like, "c'mon dude... you don't actually think XYZ works that way, do you?" can be effective in getting them to admit gullibility to themselves and think about things in a new way.
I've recently had people come back and admit, "When you told me about the child trafficking... I thought you were nuts. Now I can't believe how most people can't see it everywhere...
Bottom line: Keep chipping away even if you think you're not making a difference. Plenty of seeds planted years ago have grown deep roots into the rabbit hole... You just don't know what influence you're having on the world from your perspective... because few will report back that you were right even though they thought you were nuts before.
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It's really interesting the opportunities that come up. At a party, a guy was saying that the idea that there was an elite pedophile ring was crazy. I said "Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison right now for running that ring." And I actually saw the lightbulb click on in his head that the propaganda that he'd been fed didn't line up with reality. I believe, at that moment, he became willing to open up his mind to the possibility. I didn't say another word since he didn't initiate, but I'll bet he started digging on his own after that.