1530s, "secret, not divulged," from French occulte and directly from Latin occultus "hidden, concealed, secret," past participle of occulere "cover over, conceal," from assimilated form of ob "over" (see ob-) + a verb related to celare "to hide" (from PIE root *kel- (1) "to cover, conceal, save"). Meaning "not apprehended by the mind, beyond the range of understanding" is from 1540s. The association with the supernatural sciences (magic, alchemy, astrology, etc.) dates from 1630s.
The definition here comes all the way from ancient Greece, and likely from before.
The association with the definition you are using comes from the Cabal in 1630, a change of definition designed to, well, occult (hide, or make secret), the actual meaning. Indeed, there is no such thing as a phenomenon that is "supernatural" by definition. "Super"-natural means "outside of what is Natural" AKA "outside of the set of all possible phenomena". If a phenomenon can exist, it is by definition, "Natural."
So if a spiritual realm (or "other dimension of existence" or whatever) exists, it is, by definition, Natural; a part of What Is. The creation of the word "supernatural" was created, by the Cabal, specifically to make people believe that these other phenomena "aren't real," i.e. some of the phenomena you naturally and intuitively think exist, don't. "Even if you have evidence for it, it isn't something we should consider because it's supernatural (it's not a possible phenomenon)." These redefinitions of important words confuse us. They are part of the "partial truths" I was talking about.
These redefinition of words are, quite literally, spells. Magical spells. They create false realities for the whole world.
All false religions &the use of evil supernatural power had their origin at Babylon
What is a "false religion?" Is it any one than the one you believe in? What about the people who have different religions? Are they just wrong? It is easy to find evidence that all of the other religions have been infiltrated by the Cabal. How is it that yours survived?
What if, and just work with me here, what if EVERYTHING has been convoluted by the Cabal. I mean, it has been in every other way. Is it possible that your religion has been as well? Maybe at least a little bit? Maybe even in the most important ways? Have you really looked at the evidence? Are you afraid to do so?
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy" -- The Bard.
What is a "false religion?" Is it any one than the one you believe in? What about the people who have different religions?
John 10:7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Acts 4:12
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
Yet if a phenomenon can exist, it is by definition, "Natural."
That's the view of the Materialist e.i. There is nothing beyond the physical reality which is a denial of God's existence who is outside time, space & matter. (The physical universe)
John 4:24
God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
Your human spirit is also immaterial, we were created in God's image & according to His likeness. Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
Truth is absolute, therefore if A is true Non A is false
All of those quotes from Jesus are, I suggest, misunderstood in full context. For example, who is "the Father?" Is it YHWH? Is it the Source of All Things? Are you sure those are the same thing? Have you looked at the evidence?
That's the view of the Materialist e.i. There is nothing beyond the physical reality which is a denial of God's existence who is outside time, space & matter. (The physical universe)
Everything in your response seems to so completely miss everything I was saying that I don't even know how to address your response. I suggest you re-read it.
Hint: ALL phenomena are Natural, including those things that we call "spiritual." Material, Spiritual, ALL are real phenomena. Not because "it's what I want." It's because THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD.
It seems to me that you are not understanding what I am trying to do. I am trying to show you how your definition (which you reiterated) could create such a misunderstanding, and who made the belief system, by redefining the words, that caused it.
From the etymological dictionary:
The definition here comes all the way from ancient Greece, and likely from before.
The association with the definition you are using comes from the Cabal in 1630, a change of definition designed to, well, occult (hide, or make secret), the actual meaning. Indeed, there is no such thing as a phenomenon that is "supernatural" by definition. "Super"-natural means "outside of what is Natural" AKA "outside of the set of all possible phenomena". If a phenomenon can exist, it is by definition, "Natural."
So if a spiritual realm (or "other dimension of existence" or whatever) exists, it is, by definition, Natural; a part of What Is. The creation of the word "supernatural" was created, by the Cabal, specifically to make people believe that these other phenomena "aren't real," i.e. some of the phenomena you naturally and intuitively think exist, don't. "Even if you have evidence for it, it isn't something we should consider because it's supernatural (it's not a possible phenomenon)." These redefinitions of important words confuse us. They are part of the "partial truths" I was talking about.
These redefinition of words are, quite literally, spells. Magical spells. They create false realities for the whole world.
What is a "false religion?" Is it any one than the one you believe in? What about the people who have different religions? Are they just wrong? It is easy to find evidence that all of the other religions have been infiltrated by the Cabal. How is it that yours survived?
What if, and just work with me here, what if EVERYTHING has been convoluted by the Cabal. I mean, it has been in every other way. Is it possible that your religion has been as well? Maybe at least a little bit? Maybe even in the most important ways? Have you really looked at the evidence? Are you afraid to do so?
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What is a "false religion?" Is it any one than the one you believe in? What about the people who have different religions?
John 10:7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Acts 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
Yet if a phenomenon can exist, it is by definition, "Natural."
That's the view of the Materialist e.i. There is nothing beyond the physical reality which is a denial of God's existence who is outside time, space & matter. (The physical universe)
John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
Your human spirit is also immaterial, we were created in God's image & according to His likeness. Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
Truth is absolute, therefore if A is true Non A is false
All of those quotes from Jesus are, I suggest, misunderstood in full context. For example, who is "the Father?" Is it YHWH? Is it the Source of All Things? Are you sure those are the same thing? Have you looked at the evidence?
Everything in your response seems to so completely miss everything I was saying that I don't even know how to address your response. I suggest you re-read it.
Hint: ALL phenomena are Natural, including those things that we call "spiritual." Material, Spiritual, ALL are real phenomena. Not because "it's what I want." It's because THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD.
It seems to me that you are not understanding what I am trying to do. I am trying to show you how your definition (which you reiterated) could create such a misunderstanding, and who made the belief system, by redefining the words, that caused it.