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"Can someone honestly explain to me how a book titled "The Shooting of Charlie Kirk: A Comprehensive Account of the Utah Valley University Attack, the Aftermath, and America’s Response" was published on Amazon.com on SEPTEMBER 9TH, when the event took place on SEPTEMBER 10TH??" (twitter.com)
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– FractalizingIron 1 point 274 days ago +1 / -0

Attn u/purkiss80

Can someone honestly explain to me how a book titled "The Shooting of Charlie Kirk....

Yes, very easy!

Question: If the book is self-published on Amazon, is it possible that the Author/publisher can simply fill-in the 'publication date' as a data entry field? As opposed to this being a field that Amazon auto-fills when something is 'published' or made available to Amazon?

If yes, then the published could simply have mistakenly or purposely entered Sept 9 as the publishing date, which would (in fact has) generated a massive amount of exposure and publicity.

Here's the ISBN number for reference.

https://isbnsearch.org/isbn/9798264842788

The Shooting of Charlie Kirk: A Comprehensive Account of the Utah Valley University Attack, the Aftermath, and America’s Response

ISBN-13: 9798264842788

Author: Anastasia J. Casey


Grok:

How Long Does It Take to Get an ISBN-13?

The time varies by country and processing method, but you can typically obtain the ISBN number itself almost instantaneously upon purchase or application.

The Process

The exact steps depend on your location (ISBNs are issued by national agencies under the International ISBN Agency). Self-publishers or small publishers typically apply directly.

When registering a book for ISBN, who fills in the 'publication date'?

When registering a book for an ISBN (which involves assigning the number to your title and submitting metadata to the national ISBN agency), the publisher (or self-publisher) is responsible for filling in the publication date. This is a required piece of bibliographic metadata that you provide during the title assignment process.

Can an Independent Publisher Backdate the ISBN Publication Date to the Day Before Registration?

Yes, an independent publisher can typically enter a publication date that is earlier than the date they register the book with the ISBN agency, including just one day prior, as long as it aligns with the actual or planned date when the book becomes available for public sale or distribution.

FI Note: The author is supposed to register a legitimate publication date. They could have published the book 2 months earlier, then register with ISBN, but fill in the publication date field as 2 months earlier. Amazon etc, all sellers would, most likely, be relying on the publication date registered with ISBN

This field allows flexibility for pre-registration (e.g., submitting months in advance) or even slight retroactive entry, but it must reflect reality to avoid misleading buyers, retailers, or databases—intentionally false dates could lead to corrections, removal from listings, or credibility issues.

FI Note: So, they are supposed to give a proper or accurate 'publication date' of when the work was available, and if they do not, the listing could be pulled or corrected etc. It's very possible that the book has been pulled from Amazon because a faulty 'publication date' was registered with ISBN.

Can You Find the Registration Date of a Specific Book's ISBN?

No, it is generally not possible for the public to find the exact date when a specific book's ISBN was registered (i.e., when the publisher assigned the ISBN to the title and submitted metadata like title, author, and publication details to the national ISBN agency). This registration timestamp is an internal record maintained by the agency and is not made publicly available.

However, you can often find related information, such as the publication date (the date the book was intended to be available for sale, which is provided by the publisher during registration and can be set before or after the actual registration).


I think the controversy can easily be resolved:

a) the author rush-published the book in digital form. Whether the content was AI written, or the author wrote it, (possibly had already planned a Charlie Kirk book and then pivoted that research and writing into this publication due to unfolding events), that requires more research.

b) when the author/publisher registered the book with ISBN, obtaining an ISBN number instantly, they accidentally or purposely back-dated the publication date to September 9.

c) the book appeared on Amazon, September 11, after the assassination/murder, but with the back-dated publication date, generated massive curiosity, suspicion, etc, feeding into confirmation biases, generating this level of publicity.

This seems to be an extremely plausible possibility. It could easily be done, but of course, questions remain:

How did the author/publisher get this book up to printable status so quickly? (although note, its apparently only 68 pages!)

What was the motivation for publishing so quickly?

Given the Sept. 9 'publication date', which is apparently provided by the publisher when registering the book with ISBN, why did they choose that date? Was it a mistaken, or on purpose? If on purpose, then why?


BUT, Can someone honestly explain to me how, after 7 years of Q, there are so many truthers and so-called 'awake' people who simply fall again and again for confirmation bias and psychological manipulation?

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– purkiss80 [S] 2 points 274 days ago +2 / -0

BUT, Can someone honestly explain to me how, after 7 years of Q, there are so many truthers and so-called 'awake' people who simply fall again and again for confirmation bias and psychological manipulation?

🙄🙄🙄🙄I'm asking a Damm question.... I didn't fall for anything..... WOW, but some people here are extremely condescending...... 🤬

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 274 days ago +1 / -0

Oh, dear. Apologies, Purr.

I guess I expressed that all rather poorly. BUT, please note the wording "so many truthers and so-called awake people". I was not referring to any specific person, but a group of people.

So, firstly, I didn't see it as you asking the question, but rather as the X.com OP asking the question, and you were simply posting this to the board as a noteworthy post and a question worth asking.

My comment was NOT in reference to you AT ALL. You came across this post on X (I assume) and posted it here for our consideration. Nothing wrong with that, if you ask me.

My question about "how, after 7 years of Q, there are so many truthers and so-called 'awake' people who simply fall again and again for confirmation bias a...." was made in reference to the many comments I've just read in the last 2 hours, not even asking 'how is this possible?' but instead declaring confidently that it happened because the author publisher knew about the assassination and this publication is part of a much grander conspiracy to psyop us all.

I mean, that's possible, but I don't think people reach that conclusion instantly via critical thinking or research, but simply because it confirms what they already believe about everything.

The OP's question is a valid one. The overly confident knee-jerk responses that simply go "see? Proof!!! It's all one giant conspiracy!!!" are not valid responses. They are, in my opinion, far too easy and unreasonable. Dig first, then analyze.

So, hey, comon fren. We're veterans now. You and I have been contributing here for a long time. I think I know your massive contribution here, enough to have some decent respect.

And, in case there is any doubt of that, please DO accept my sincere apology for wording this poorly, such as you took it as a personal criticism. it wasn't. I was in no way thinking of you or referring to you.

That said, I mean, dang. I try NOT to be condescending, but maybe criticizing some frogs or online anons for not even thinking about the question and instead just going with confirmation bias IS being condescending. I don't mean it to be.

And, I generally try hard to NOT convey that sense. In any case, it's usually never personal, and more of a general comment on certain segments of our peer group. We have to be able to self-criticize, if we want to improve, right?

Hope this clarifies my viewpoint and my intent.

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– purkiss80 [S] 1 point 274 days ago +1 / -0

Absolutely, no problem my friend, I'm also just a little touchy at the moment considering, so I apologize if I came on a bit strong... Im being "attacked" on X because I'm defending Charlie to all these fucking demonic accounts...but that will NOT stop me in the least 🙏🏻🙏🏻

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 274 days ago +2 / -0

Whew. Thanks Fren. Appreciate your understanding. It's a very tough time at the moment. Deliberately created by the cabal, imo.

Glad you are here.

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– ConspiracyLinks 1 point 274 days ago +1 / -0

☝🏻 This. Or the same way London news announced the fall of building seven before it fell…

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 274 days ago +2 / -0

Yes, there is that. Hmmm...

But, the evidence for that BBC news is quite clear (imo).

This book thing, I'm not so sure about.

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