"A vessel in international waters is required under UNCLOS to sail under the flag of a specific nation. If it does not, it is legally considered a stateless vessel. A stateless vessel has no right to the protections normally afforded to ships under a national flag, including immunity from interference by other states.
UNCLOS Articles 92, 94, 110, and customary maritime law spell out the consequences clearly:
Stateless vessels have no sovereign protection. A flagged ship is an extension of its flag-state’s sovereignty. A stateless vessel is not. This matters because “war crimes” presuppose protected persons or protected property. A stateless vessel is legally unprotected.
Any state may stop, board, search, seize, or disable, a stateless vessel. UNCLOS Article 110 explicitly authorizes boarding and seizure. The law does not require states to risk their own personnel or assets while doing so. Disabling a vessel that refuses inspection, including firing on it, is legally permitted under both UNCLOS and long-established state practice.
War crimes require an armed conflict. You cannot commit a “war crime” outside an armed conflict. War crimes occur only within the context of international humanitarian law (IHL). Enforcing maritime law against a stateless vessel is a law enforcement action, not an IHL situation.
No armed conflict = no war crime possible.
Lethal force may be used when a vessel refuses lawful orders. The International Maritime Organization’s “Use of Force” guidance for maritime interdiction recognizes that disabling fire, even lethal force, is lawful when a vessel refuses lawful boarding, attempts to flee, poses a threat, or engages in illicit activities such as piracy or narcotics trafficking.
Once again: law enforcement rules apply, not IHL.
Sinking a stateless vessel is not prohibited by UNCLOS. UNCLOS permits seizure of a stateless vessel and leaves the means entirely to the enforcing state so long as necessity and proportionality are respected. If the vessel flees, attacks, or refuses lawful commands, sinking it is legally permissible. Many states routinely do this to drug-smuggling vessels (e.g., semi-submersibles) without it ever being treated as a war crime.
No flag = no jurisdictional shield. The entire reason international law requires ships to fly a flag is to prevent this exact situation. Flagless vessels are legally vulnerable by design.
Because a stateless vessel has no protected status, because UNCLOS authorizes interdiction of such vessels, because lethal force may be used in maritime law enforcement when necessary, and because war crimes require an armed conflict that is not present here, sinking an unflagged ship in international waters is not a war crime."
Actually, sorry to bother you again, but I still can't post. It's not showing up in New. I can see my post in my personal feed though. I'm probably still too new. I can post fine on patriots.win for some reason.
A linked youtube video of Brass Facts about a potential civil war in the US that is being brigaded by Reddit heavily making it look like they are the majority against the conservatives!. Someone said to me I need more score to lose my handshake account and then I will be able to post.
Maybe the idea is to introduce the piracy laws up-front: These are pirates in international waters. It is obvious from the picture that they have stored enough fuel to 'get' to US coast. And there are some curious packages in waterproof containers at the front. Gee I wonder what that is? No fishing nets, or bait. Just one purpose, really. OK, so the casualties are just mules. sure.
hold up. just because someone chooses not to fly your flag doesnt make them a pirate. what if i live on a boat out in international waters, but im not really into flying a flag. not really buying the logic that its permissable to attack me for that
Do so at your own choosing. Just bear in mind you do not have any sovereign protection by refusing to fly a nation flag. You are identifying your vessel as a 'stateless' vessel, and foregoing your protection against being stopped, boarded, searched, SEIZED, and/or disabled to the point of sinking it.
Your call.
"A vessel in international waters is required under UNCLOS to sail under the flag of a specific nation. If it does not, it is legally considered a stateless vessel. A stateless vessel has no right to the protections normally afforded to ships under a national flag, including immunity from interference by other states. UNCLOS Articles 92, 94, 110, and customary maritime law spell out the consequences clearly:
I'm not holding my breath that zombie brained democrats will understand this distinction.
Well they think aliens have rights, so your probably spot on.
well hold on a minute…
citizen and person/people are distinct things
“We The People”
isn’t the same as
“We The Citizens”
Some argue that criminals have no rights, the Bill of Rights says otherwise
Somewhere i saw the word citizen has an ownership of the person implies. Not the same as a person or people.
The best part is they dont have to 'understand' it, if what Hegseth has been doing is legal and within the laws.....
As long as tje supreme.court recognizes it. Funny noninternational law junkies from the hague are complaining
Hague? Wasn't that a character from The Ghost and Mr. Chicken movie?
Atta boy Luther!
Great info, thanks for posting. 🤓
This is pretty str8 forward to me. Boggles my mind how libtards spout off about stuff that they cannot back up
I challenge you to find a time when liberals could back up their positions with logic and not emotional name calling.
Well, that's interesting.
Can someone help me, I'm trying to post something, and it doesn't show up. I'm new, so is that why I'm not able to?
You have to comment enough to lose the handshake next to your name first.
Handshakes are not allowed to post.
You can also contact a mod,and they can approved it for you.
Thanks man. I didn’t know all of that. I’ve been on GAW since 2020. I just never made an account till now.
Its gone now you can post.
Actually, sorry to bother you again, but I still can't post. It's not showing up in New. I can see my post in my personal feed though. I'm probably still too new. I can post fine on patriots.win for some reason.
Patriot win is different.
Give it a day or two,and then check with the mod's.
ok thank you
Thank you so much!
I can see your post?
What are you trying to post?
A linked youtube video of Brass Facts about a potential civil war in the US that is being brigaded by Reddit heavily making it look like they are the majority against the conservatives!. Someone said to me I need more score to lose my handshake account and then I will be able to post.
https://youtu.be/uT7XPXh6ras?si=cJ9W71ewgxHVFpRW.
Judge Napolitano will disagree. He is very adamant that what President Trump is doing is illegal and is murder.
How many people died because Barry droned them over in Africa?
Maybe the idea is to introduce the piracy laws up-front: These are pirates in international waters. It is obvious from the picture that they have stored enough fuel to 'get' to US coast. And there are some curious packages in waterproof containers at the front. Gee I wonder what that is? No fishing nets, or bait. Just one purpose, really. OK, so the casualties are just mules. sure.
Nobody complained when we blew up somali pirates who were flagless.
Exactly....
hold up. just because someone chooses not to fly your flag doesnt make them a pirate. what if i live on a boat out in international waters, but im not really into flying a flag. not really buying the logic that its permissable to attack me for that
Do so at your own choosing. Just bear in mind you do not have any sovereign protection by refusing to fly a nation flag. You are identifying your vessel as a 'stateless' vessel, and foregoing your protection against being stopped, boarded, searched, SEIZED, and/or disabled to the point of sinking it. Your call.
Well that sounds
like piracy to me!
lol omg wtf
a robbery!
on the high seas ?
so if i’m out
floatin’ me boat
out on the high seas,
then nobody has
any inherent right
to be bothering me
Just like i
don’t have
any inherent right
to be
bothering
anybody else
out on the high seas
So How about this?
The Golden Rule
i don’t bother you,
And you
don’t bother me?
Hmm? Ok?
I can’t hear too well,
Can you speak a little louder,
So the AI surveillance cameras
can catch every last detail?
Or is it gonna be,
More Like Ron Paul
getting boo’ed
By the GOP RNC
Just For invoking
the golden rule
Yeah we heard that too
So excuse me please
If i don’t carry on me,
your loysense to sail,
out on the high seas,
that i gotta pay,
or i go to jail,
or brig,
or even worse?
Ya gonna make me
walk the plank,
In shark
infested waters
out on the high seas?
You got some nerve,
You pirate wannabes
you think a big fancy boat
with a fancy little flag
gives your piracy
a facade
of legimacy?
HA HA
Surely you Jest!
Clowns
you are,
Court Jesters
at best
You would even plant a flag
on the moon,
and claim it for the USA
If only you could
without Russia
calling bull shit
without the help
of Stanley Kubrick
And all of Hollywood
Close cousins
You are,
to the Somalia Pirates
Claiming the high seas,
But somehow living
In me minnesota
And Voting for Democrats?
And Collecting a government check
For autism and such
And sending remittances to Somalia
To fund another Mossad proxy terror group
But you can’t even get
A little relief
Some space
to breathe
Claiming all of the high seas?!
HA HA
Nobody voted for you,
I don’t pay your taxes,
and you don’t represent me
nor do i represent you,
So I don’t recognize
your supposed authority
beyond
what you could command
at the barrel of a gun
and if you please
take a moment,
to closely assess
the situation,
you will quickly ascertain
that my love gun
is much bigger than yours
so kindly fuck off
in every possible way
that is
after we part ways
so please and thank you
and have a nice day then