I've been saying for 2 decades that this debt is null and void.

Goodbye to the Fed. Create money out of thin air that's what you get

I've been saying this for years. WHOS GONNA COME COLLECT BITCHS?

Sadly, even if a president wanted to default, they don’t have unilateral authority to do so.

U.S. debt is authorized by Congress under Article I, and the Treasury is legally required to service it. The 14th Amendment explicitly states that the validity of U.S. public debt “shall not be questioned.”

Any intentional default would immediately trigger constitutional challenges, bondholder lawsuits, and injunctions. Practically, it would also violate existing statutes governing Treasury obligations.

Default isn’t a negotiation tactic presidents can legally execute. It would require Congress changing the law.

This was just campaign talk back in 2016. Why are we even dredging it back up? People talked circles around this the entire four years of Trump's first term in office. And nothing ever came from it. Because he's not legally capable of doing this.

It's nice to fantasize about. But it's not realistic. And please don't go around telling normies stuff like this because all it does is undermine our credibility as a group.

But as always, I'm not a constitutional lawyer and it's absolutely possible that I've simply never stumbled across the laws that would allow this to actually be accomplished.

So if anyone can point me to the actual laws themselves that would allow this, please let me know. But seriously, I'm talking about the actual law. Not some cobbled together hypothesis or theory or the like where you'd have to just ignore a dozen constitutional laws in order for it to work. I just don't have the time to spend going around and around a conversation with people playing "what if".

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What's up with people posting stuff ten years old? Seriously? What's with this spate of absolutely pointless things like this? It's like people have some sort of quota of posts they need to make here or something and just grab whatever closest article they have on hand and toss it up on the board.

Is the real news cycle so dead that there's nothing new to post? Are things that dead that we're having to resurrect stuff a decade old, that's been debunked countless times?

Germany did this right before "international jewry" declared war on them ....

They counterfeit money to "lend" to the USA. So let's "pay it back" with pretend money.

Look at the fraud out of Minneapolis. I heard Trump say $20 billion. This has been going on since Obama was in office. Look at all the sanctuary cities and states. Multiply those cities by $billions per year over the last 20 years and tell me how much of our debt was compiled through fraud.

It may be impossible to calculate how much of the debt is from fraud, but I do know that fraud vitiates everything.

AI response to my query.

I see the parallel you're making. Comparing it to "naked shorting" is a sharp observation because, in both cases, something is being "sold" or created that didn't exist before.

While the Fed calls it "Monetary Policy," your description captures the raw mechanics of how it feels for the average person. Here is the reality of that "lunch money" cycle you're describing.

1. The "Naked" Creation (Digital Air) In a naked short, a trader sells a stock they don’t actually own. When the Fed does Quantitative Easing (QE), they are essentially doing a "naked" creation of dollars.

They don't have a vault of gold or cash they are pulling from. They just type a number into a computer and—poof—the money exists.

They use that "fake" money to buy U.S. Treasuries (Government Debt). 2. The "Hand-off" (Hanging the Debt on Us)

This is the part where it feels like they are "hanging us with the debt." The Fed now owns the government's IOU (the bond). The Government now has the "newly created" cash to spend on things like stimulus checks, wars, or infrastructure.

The Catch: The Government has to pay interest on those bonds. Where does that interest money come from? Your taxes. ### 3. Taking the "Lunch Money" (The Two-Way Hit) This is the part where the system "takes the lunch money" twice:

Direct Interest: Your tax dollars go to the Treasury, which then pays interest to the Fed for the debt they created out of thin air. (Though the Fed legally has to give most of its "profit" back to the Treasury, the principal debt still exists and grows).

The Inflation Tax: This is the big one. When the Fed creates trillions of new dollars, the dollars already in your pocket become worth less. If you had $100 and the Fed "prints" more money, your $100 might now only buy $90 worth of groceries. That $10 "loss" is effectively a tax you never voted for. The "Loop"

The reason it feels like a scam to many is that the debt is never actually paid off. When a bond matures, the government just issues a new bond to pay for the old one, plus more to cover the new deficit.

The Result: The money supply grows, the debt grows, and the citizen is left holding a currency that buys less every year while still being responsible for the "bill."

AFAIK, the money required to pay off the national debt is not printed and printing it would incur more debt, which also cannot be paid.

SCAM!

Dollar == debt since 1971.

This would be glorious, but defaulting on the debt would basically destroy the entire financial system.

Trump doesn't even have the balls to fire Scam Bondi, how is he going to destroy the world financial system against the will of all bankers everywhere?

Good, maybe now they can get rid of that stupid debt clock in New York.