I can't really see the Contras being the same as arming Mexican cartels. Too many qualitative differences to lump them together that way, and the 2nd amendment angle doesn't match.
The purpose of the Contras was relatively well defined, and did not expand beyond that to my knowledge. If you have evidence that the Contras were used against the U.S. or morphed into something other than an anti-Sandinista force, I'd be interested to see it.
I've seen a lot of negative revisionism of the Reagan years, and while I'll admit that the mujahedeen in Afghanistan turned into a problem later, I don't think it's fair to say that about the Contras. Over time we've had problems in the US from gangs that are Salvadoran, Mexican, Venezuelan (lol: autocorrect really wanted that to be vegetarian gangs), Colombian and even Brazilian; practically anything but Nicaraguan. I believe the Contras contained Nicaraguan evil so that it stayed within its borders, and that we'd have seen greater problems without them.
Not really trying to convince you, but just wanted to register my disagreement about lumping them together in the same category. I think that if we had not checked the Sandinistas, we'd have seen Nicaragua evolve into another hub for launching anti-U.S. activity like how Venezuela did.
You may be right about this. The part that was compelling was "practically anything but Nicaraguan. I believe the Contras contained Nicaraguan evil so that it stayed within its borders, and that we'd have seen greater problems without them."
I haven't dug deeply into the Contra affair. From what I understand, Congress passed laws prohibiting the funding of Contras so Reagan sold arms to Iran and diverted the funds to Contras. Do you think this was deep state trying to hobble Reagan's ability to contain Nicaraguan Cabal assets?
What about the other side of the equation - selling arms to Iran? Didn't that directly fuel the Iran Iraq war?
In anycase, if there was one action of foreign "inerference" by US that actually helped the country rather than turn the country into a socialist dictator hellhole, it makes me happy. I do hope this is what happened in Nicaragua
The similarity doesn't have anything to do with the second amendment. The similarity is destabilizing Mexico and greater Central America. Creating conditions for the rise of MS-13 and other narco gangs to infiltrate the United States through LAX border policy. To eventually act as a mercenary army against the American people in the 16-year plan to destroy America.
I disagree that the Nicaraguan Contras destabilized Central America, or that they were ever likely to be used against the U.S. Instead, they were reacting to the already-advanced destabilization from the Communist power grab of the Sandinista regime.
Circumstantial evidence to support this is that, despite the Contras funding over many years, none of the dangerous U.S. gangs are Nicaraguan.
This is relatively old history so it's probably not worth a big debate, but just wanted to register my disagreement on the topic.
Same as what they were doing with the Contras.
They even released a movie series "Fast and the Furious" to make sure the name get lost. Like BLM.
I can't really see the Contras being the same as arming Mexican cartels. Too many qualitative differences to lump them together that way, and the 2nd amendment angle doesn't match.
Here is the commonality: Illegally arming a foreign group of people for whatever purposes the elites wanted.
The purpose of the Contras was relatively well defined, and did not expand beyond that to my knowledge. If you have evidence that the Contras were used against the U.S. or morphed into something other than an anti-Sandinista force, I'd be interested to see it.
I've seen a lot of negative revisionism of the Reagan years, and while I'll admit that the mujahedeen in Afghanistan turned into a problem later, I don't think it's fair to say that about the Contras. Over time we've had problems in the US from gangs that are Salvadoran, Mexican, Venezuelan (lol: autocorrect really wanted that to be vegetarian gangs), Colombian and even Brazilian; practically anything but Nicaraguan. I believe the Contras contained Nicaraguan evil so that it stayed within its borders, and that we'd have seen greater problems without them.
Not really trying to convince you, but just wanted to register my disagreement about lumping them together in the same category. I think that if we had not checked the Sandinistas, we'd have seen Nicaragua evolve into another hub for launching anti-U.S. activity like how Venezuela did.
You may be right about this. The part that was compelling was "practically anything but Nicaraguan. I believe the Contras contained Nicaraguan evil so that it stayed within its borders, and that we'd have seen greater problems without them."
I haven't dug deeply into the Contra affair. From what I understand, Congress passed laws prohibiting the funding of Contras so Reagan sold arms to Iran and diverted the funds to Contras. Do you think this was deep state trying to hobble Reagan's ability to contain Nicaraguan Cabal assets?
What about the other side of the equation - selling arms to Iran? Didn't that directly fuel the Iran Iraq war?
In anycase, if there was one action of foreign "inerference" by US that actually helped the country rather than turn the country into a socialist dictator hellhole, it makes me happy. I do hope this is what happened in Nicaragua
The similarity doesn't have anything to do with the second amendment. The similarity is destabilizing Mexico and greater Central America. Creating conditions for the rise of MS-13 and other narco gangs to infiltrate the United States through LAX border policy. To eventually act as a mercenary army against the American people in the 16-year plan to destroy America.
I disagree that the Nicaraguan Contras destabilized Central America, or that they were ever likely to be used against the U.S. Instead, they were reacting to the already-advanced destabilization from the Communist power grab of the Sandinista regime.
Circumstantial evidence to support this is that, despite the Contras funding over many years, none of the dangerous U.S. gangs are Nicaraguan.
This is relatively old history so it's probably not worth a big debate, but just wanted to register my disagreement on the topic.