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Here's That Ex-CIA Spook Who Thought Iran Could Sink Our Aircraft Carriers (townhall.com)
posted 99 days ago by Mow-Lawn-Lah-Bay 99 days ago by Mow-Lawn-Lah-Bay +60 / -0
Here's That Ex-CIA Spook Who Thought Iran Could Sink Our Aircraft Carriers
Analysis of Iran's diminished military threat and the strategic impact on regional conflict and global oil markets.
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– Dogsoldier2 10 points 99 days ago +10 / -0

This guy is a total joke. He's been all over podcasts acting like an "expert" and dooming constantly. He may be former CIA but he's a current and active dumbass.

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– Plebbitimmigrant 5 points 99 days ago +5 / -0

The thing far too many people do. Is take the fact that someone was in the CIA or an Officer in the Military as some great declaration that they are broad topic experts.

The Reality is. The overwhelming majority of the time. If it’s outside the narrow realm of their actual job/service related expertise. They’re guessing the same as the rest of us. They just know more of the technical jargon to make their guess sound more official than our guesses.

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– HardWorkinPatriot 3 points 99 days ago +3 / -0

I'm always highly suspicious of anyone who claims to be former CIA. It seems like just another avenue to disperse their desired propaganda.

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– SaltyKarens 3 points 99 days ago +3 / -0

"Before we got into the thick of Operation Epic Fury, ex-CIA agent John Kiriakou, who went to jail for sharing sensitive materials with journalists about our enhanced interrogation program, said that Iran could take out our aircraft carriers, which could lead to World War III."

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– Notimportant81 2 points 99 days ago +2 / -0

Listened to him once. Idiot

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– Steppenwolfe 1 point 99 days ago +1 / -0

Fundamentally, this moron isn’t wrong. IF Iran had its assets intact, it could be a massive threat to a carrier battle group. They couldn’t technologically speaking, but rather in quantity. They would swarm or swamp the target with small assault weapons (boats) in massive numbers allowing the kill shot rocket torpedoes to be launched within the chaos. That was one of their battle doctrines. But! Thanks to a POTUS with huge balls, They don’t. End of story for Buffoon who claims to be a super spy spook Clown in America Walter Mitty!

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– SuckaFree 1 point 99 days ago +1 / -0

Had Iran been able to successfully target and attack our carrier battle groups before having their launch systems destroyed, then yes, they may have been able to. But here's the issue: our carriers are designed to withstand multiple direct hits from everything short of a direct nuclear weapon impact. And by multiple missiles or torpedoes, I mean upwards of a dozen or more direct impacts. It's extremely hard to sink a ship that size using surface born weapons.

Kiroakou was operating on the belief that we wouldn't have been able to destroy as many as we did in the first week. Also, he, and the public weren't aware of our ships now carrying the ability to microwave jam or carrying laser weapons.

He was also woefully ignorant on how good our Damage Control teams are, much less how our ships are built to withstand multiple rockets, and/or torpedos.

He basically was operating on very old and outdated WWII era information regarding ship building and DC tactics. And even back then, our ships required multiple attack runs and multiple direct hits to be sunk.

I like Kiriakou, he has a lot of good info and insights from his Agency days about their tactics, strategies, etc, but on military warfighting, especially as it relates to our Navy, he doesn't know or understand nearly as much as he thinks he does.

Our Damage Control methods are second to none. Each ship is equipped with numerous DC Lockers that are basically individual fire/DC depts that work independently of and in conjunction with each other. I no longer remember just how many repair lockers Nimitz had l, but there were more than 12. Each maior repair locker had about 50 people, some of them more. We also had smaller lockers spread out throughout the ship, each could be manned with 20-25 Sailors. Each Dept (and subsequently each Dept's Divisions) is tasked with manning specific repair lockers around the area where their offices and work centers are. PLUS, each ship has multiple DC Teams with Damage Controlmen that are tasked with fighting the ship while we're underway and act as a QRT to respond to any issues that may come up while not under General Quarters (Battle Stations). The repair lockers stay locked up when under normal ops, but can easily be opened up and manned should any major issues arise or General Quarters is called. It takes a carrier with a good DC Officer about 60 sec to be fully operational. The target time is usually around 1:30-2:00 minutes, but we would regularly be ready by the 1:00 mark.

Each ship has its own Damage Control Dept led by a highly experienced DC Officer, usually a LCMDR or CMDR that is a Mustang (former enlisted.DCman). He's tasked with ensuring each repair locker is fully equipped, fully trained up, and also uses his DC Dept to train and test the Repair Lockers during drills. We train extensively and exhaustively on every deployment and attend schools when in home port between major deployments to keep our skills updated and fresh.

And those supposedly "hyper-sonic" missile Iran was bragging about weren't so hyper-sonic after all. Nor were they equipped with sophisticated tracking/targeting hardware and software.

Kiriakou was essentially operating from a position of ignorance and fear more than anything else. And remember, even though he was burned by the Clowns and Fed Bois, he still could be operating as a useful idiot when it comes to neo-con narratives. He was basically just parroting the same type of swill that Bolton and a lot of others were spewing.

I don't know of anyone with actual real insider knowledge of the U.S. Navy's full damage control capabilities that was saying Iran would be able to sink any of our vessels, much less our floating fortresses. In fact, everyone I know that served onboard a ship was in agreement that it isn't impossible, but it might as well be for a country like Iran. They'd be able to seriously damage our ships, and might even be able to effectively neutralize a few in total, but sinking a modern U.S. Navy Carrier is about the hardest thing any country could do militarily without using nuclear weapons. And even then, our ships are designed to withstand those, too.

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– Jenmon 1 point 99 days ago +1 / -0

According to Trump, Iran was supposed to be weeks away from having a nuclear weapon. That would have taken out an aircraft carrier. Not a defense of this guy but we need to be consistent here.

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