Precisely my point, many of us are old enough to remember being straight up lied to about Iraq, and here we are again with a supposed anti-war president replaying the same exact script, expecting all of us to just "trust me bro".
I understand some things need to stay secret for various reasons, but there must be at least one way to deliver some kind of actual evidence to the very people paying for this operation. Otherwise, we're well within our rights to post as much discontent, Trump W. Bush, and mission accomplished memes as we see fit.
If you think this has any similarity to Iraq you’re the one being played by the mainstream news and anti-Trump brigade online that has been trying to make everything he does look bad from day one. “Trump W. Bush”? Get the f outta here. Do I have to post what Karoline Leavitt said the other day only to get ignored again? There were going to attack soon. You don’t just reveal “trade secrets” with those you are trying to make deals with. Who are you going to trust, those that have been lying for decades or the man that has always been right and every prediction coming true from day one?
It’s really simple. We have troops stationed at bases in Europe. Trump knew Israel was going to attack and that Iran would respond by attacking US bases. We attacked first in order to subdue Iran’s ability to attack, thereby protecting any fallout on EU cities.
On Monday, Rubio said that the US struck on Saturday because Israel was going to do it anyways, putting US troops at risk.
“We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even higher those killed,” Rubio said Monday.
“Obviously we were aware of Israeli intentions and understood what that would mean for us, and we had to be prepared to act as a result of it. But this had to happen no matter what.”
Is it possible that iran was going to use this capability to false flag attack a European country, blame it on Russia and then force the usa into a protracted “world war”. Alternatively they could have attacked, taken responsibility and then also entered into prolonged war. By that time Nato would get involved and then do their usual bullshit and not allow certain types of attacks or share intel with the “enemy” and generally telegraph their moves to prolong the war as long as possible.
Interesting theory. It seems like World War III was on the menu. And it would need to be obscure how it started, like the other World Wars. This would help explain the "Russia, Russia, Russia" thing, when it was the U.S. government who took over Ukraine in 2014.
Schrodinger's Persia: It is both an imminent threat and NOT an imminent threat at the same time. The only way to measure is to open the box with an ayatollah inside to see if he is alive or dead. /s
Absolutely, Uranium One comes to mind. Remember the missing uranium years ago? Where did that uranium end up that was supposed to have been sold to Russia through that company?
Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, was one of nine officials that approve the sale of uranium one to Russia at the time.
The false flag attack was to have been blamed on Russia as uranium has traceable signatures of where the uranium came out of the ground from.
Since it was sold to Russia but some of that uranium was diverted to Iran.
They never thought she would lose!
"Chukna" (also known as Schlomo) the steadfast defender of Israel and relentless critic of Europe, tell us, how many times did Bibi point out that Israeli missiles [made in America] can reach the capitals of Europe. Will you answer "None" to that question as well?
Schlomo declares in his title that "Trump attacked Iran to protect Europe, but Europeans refused to aid the USA". Didn't you mean to say that the Mossad installed puppets holding executive power in Europe refused to fight the Mossad installed Mullahs in Iran in accordance with their instructions from Tel Aviv?
You Mossad agents are so easy to spot. Come on Schlomo, up your game. Playing chess with wienies is boring.
"We attacked them first because they could have attacked us all"
Pre-emptive violence makes innocents into the guilty that we are "justified" in attacking
Just like antifa saying "punch a Nazi" (when Nazis haven't committed any violence against them...)
Pre-emptive violence is a recipe for endless war as the person either feels justified to initiate aggression or to defend against it
(Hence while some of us acknowledge there may be dangers behind the scenes we don't know about as speculated in the OP, otherwise we are pretty against what transpired until such info is disclosed)
So threats made to Trump personally and the entire nation recently don’t count, I guess. If it’s not on the talking box mainstream news I guess it doesn’t exist right?
Again, one never reveals secrets of those they are engaged in making deals with as it’ll blow all the leverage they have. Trump is not an idiot and anyone who thinks so here is very disingenuous or a troll.
Europe is cucked. Theyre the new third world.
Sampson knows.
Oh really, because I don't see that in any of his reasonings. Can you source this or did you just make it up?
That's what real allies do, protect their allies.
Which of our allies were under immediate attack, excluding the theoretical?
While I understand your stance on war we obviously do not know for certain the severity of the threat.
Which I guess can support your point of view, if you're willing to give a little and say you have no idea either.
Precisely my point, many of us are old enough to remember being straight up lied to about Iraq, and here we are again with a supposed anti-war president replaying the same exact script, expecting all of us to just "trust me bro".
I understand some things need to stay secret for various reasons, but there must be at least one way to deliver some kind of actual evidence to the very people paying for this operation. Otherwise, we're well within our rights to post as much discontent, Trump W. Bush, and mission accomplished memes as we see fit.
If you think this has any similarity to Iraq you’re the one being played by the mainstream news and anti-Trump brigade online that has been trying to make everything he does look bad from day one. “Trump W. Bush”? Get the f outta here. Do I have to post what Karoline Leavitt said the other day only to get ignored again? There were going to attack soon. You don’t just reveal “trade secrets” with those you are trying to make deals with. Who are you going to trust, those that have been lying for decades or the man that has always been right and every prediction coming true from day one?
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It’s really simple. We have troops stationed at bases in Europe. Trump knew Israel was going to attack and that Iran would respond by attacking US bases. We attacked first in order to subdue Iran’s ability to attack, thereby protecting any fallout on EU cities.
None of this has been mentioned by Trump or any credible reporting, you literally just made it up because it feels good to think.
President Trump and secretary Rubio have said exactly this a couple of weeks ago. It was in press conferences/interviews.
Here’s the relevant statement by Rubio:
On Monday, Rubio said that the US struck on Saturday because Israel was going to do it anyways, putting US troops at risk.
“We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even higher those killed,” Rubio said Monday.
“Obviously we were aware of Israeli intentions and understood what that would mean for us, and we had to be prepared to act as a result of it. But this had to happen no matter what.”
Bro, did you bother to look it up before you responded and showed how ignorant you are? No, you didn’t. Here ya go ‘tard. https://usafacts.org/articles/where-are-us-military-members-stationed-and-why/
Is it possible that iran was going to use this capability to false flag attack a European country, blame it on Russia and then force the usa into a protracted “world war”. Alternatively they could have attacked, taken responsibility and then also entered into prolonged war. By that time Nato would get involved and then do their usual bullshit and not allow certain types of attacks or share intel with the “enemy” and generally telegraph their moves to prolong the war as long as possible.
Interesting theory. It seems like World War III was on the menu. And it would need to be obscure how it started, like the other World Wars. This would help explain the "Russia, Russia, Russia" thing, when it was the U.S. government who took over Ukraine in 2014.
Schrodinger's Persia: It is both an imminent threat and NOT an imminent threat at the same time. The only way to measure is to open the box with an ayatollah inside to see if he is alive or dead. /s
Absolutely, Uranium One comes to mind. Remember the missing uranium years ago? Where did that uranium end up that was supposed to have been sold to Russia through that company? Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, was one of nine officials that approve the sale of uranium one to Russia at the time.
The false flag attack was to have been blamed on Russia as uranium has traceable signatures of where the uranium came out of the ground from. Since it was sold to Russia but some of that uranium was diverted to Iran. They never thought she would lose!
How many millions of bioweapons did Israel already send to every major European city?
Did you delete your entire 5 year history of posts because they're all just as pathetic as the one above?
None.
"Chukna" (also known as Schlomo) the steadfast defender of Israel and relentless critic of Europe, tell us, how many times did Bibi point out that Israeli missiles [made in America] can reach the capitals of Europe. Will you answer "None" to that question as well?
Schlomo declares in his title that "Trump attacked Iran to protect Europe, but Europeans refused to aid the USA". Didn't you mean to say that the Mossad installed puppets holding executive power in Europe refused to fight the Mossad installed Mullahs in Iran in accordance with their instructions from Tel Aviv?
You Mossad agents are so easy to spot. Come on Schlomo, up your game. Playing chess with wienies is boring.
I actually don't support Israel, if I support some country, it's Russia. :)
Good to know, thanks!
Is this your new talking point?
The world owes Trump a thank you for telling genocidal isreal to stop bombing global energy infrastructure and civilians.
Isreal owes the world an apology and damages.
But, the Trump haters are going to have "No Kings" protest March 28. Insanity!!!
I think usually this kind of logic is rejected:
"We attacked them first because they could have attacked us all"
Pre-emptive violence makes innocents into the guilty that we are "justified" in attacking
Just like antifa saying "punch a Nazi" (when Nazis haven't committed any violence against them...)
Pre-emptive violence is a recipe for endless war as the person either feels justified to initiate aggression or to defend against it
(Hence while some of us acknowledge there may be dangers behind the scenes we don't know about as speculated in the OP, otherwise we are pretty against what transpired until such info is disclosed)
So threats made to Trump personally and the entire nation recently don’t count, I guess. If it’s not on the talking box mainstream news I guess it doesn’t exist right?
Again, one never reveals secrets of those they are engaged in making deals with as it’ll blow all the leverage they have. Trump is not an idiot and anyone who thinks so here is very disingenuous or a troll.