Isn’t it interesting that they are ONLY looping around the moon, without slowing down, rather than orbiting the moon? Seems like a lack of capability if they want to actually land on the moon.
Orion is not Apollo, it's a new spacecraft. Always safer to do a shakedown mission before landing. Remember that with Apollo there were several missions before the landing, including a mission which resembles (kindof) Artemis 2 which was Apollo 8. Artemis 2 is not orbiting because it lacks the EUS required to capture in lunar orbit. The "service module" that this spacecraft has only has enough power to TLI, not enough to orbit and then deorbit from the moon. Later service modules, or maybe just Starship when it is online, will have this capability. And finally, the launch vehicle SLS has only about half of the capability to lunar surface that Apollo had. It is a much less capable system all around. Once Starship is a thing, SLS will no longer be a thing. Starship at $100M for a launch with several times the capability compared to a $4B launch of SLS? That's when we'll see some magic.
“ including a mission which resembles (kindof) Artemis 2”
My point, Apollo’s first moon mission was to prove out the ability to get to the moon, orbit the moon as if the lander had been deployed, and return to the earth. Orion is only doing a fast fly by, looping the moon and only spending a few hours hours at that, and what looks like a gravity “sling shot” to return to earth. Only 1 of 3 maneuvers. Seems lame to me compared to 60’s tech, if it wasn’t all faked. I still cling to the belief that what I saw back then was real, I was in high school at the time, but it’s tough when we can’t do better 50+ years later.
Yes it does seem intentional. But, there are only launch windows for this particular mission for like a day or two every couple weeks. So to avoid launching on Apr 1, they'll have to wait another couple weeks or something. China is gearing up, and they don't care what American "holiday" it is - they're going when they're ready. So we shouldn't care either.
It all sounds great for believers to believe we went to the moon for the last time 53 years ago. Now, we're going to do it again, but they won't be actually landing on the moon forecasted till 2028. Why the long wait until between now and 2028? I don't believe one word coming from the mouths at NASA. No country has ever been to the moon, or we or they would have been doing it for the last 53 years non-stop!
Artemis is using the Space Shuttle Engines (4) that are 40 years old and Elon Musk says they need 12 earth orbit based refuelings to get there. So consider this mission under former Senator Nelson was delayed for 6 years so far. . .
Yeah, the engines were left over. They , NASA , were doing a write up on the progress about 8 years ago and they had a 6' tall man stand in the engine. This was under Senator Nelsons NASA. They were working with a rediculous budget and I noticed they were the 'old' left over engines from the Space Shuttle program that abruptly ended !
" The Artemis program has cost approximately $93 billion from 2012 to 2025, with significant budget overruns attributed to its various components, including the Space Launch System and Orion spacecraft. " from Duck Duck AI.
But you can see they did not have to pay for the engines which would have been at least half the budget. They didn't fly back to the Cape like Space X engines do to be rebuilt. No. I watched them fall back into the ocean as they Chem Trailed the sky. Which is so obscene on its own !
I watched it too and thought it was so retarded compared to what Musk and crew are doing. Literally 80% of that rocket was wasted.
$93 billion and they didn’t even make the engines. They are corrupt thieves. It was a nice touch having a jewish commander. Yet again, they are mocking us.
Are you aware they're launching TODAY on a mission to go around the moon and back? They pick April Fools to launch. Seems possibly intentional.
Isn’t it interesting that they are ONLY looping around the moon, without slowing down, rather than orbiting the moon? Seems like a lack of capability if they want to actually land on the moon.
Orion is not Apollo, it's a new spacecraft. Always safer to do a shakedown mission before landing. Remember that with Apollo there were several missions before the landing, including a mission which resembles (kindof) Artemis 2 which was Apollo 8. Artemis 2 is not orbiting because it lacks the EUS required to capture in lunar orbit. The "service module" that this spacecraft has only has enough power to TLI, not enough to orbit and then deorbit from the moon. Later service modules, or maybe just Starship when it is online, will have this capability. And finally, the launch vehicle SLS has only about half of the capability to lunar surface that Apollo had. It is a much less capable system all around. Once Starship is a thing, SLS will no longer be a thing. Starship at $100M for a launch with several times the capability compared to a $4B launch of SLS? That's when we'll see some magic.
“ including a mission which resembles (kindof) Artemis 2”
My point, Apollo’s first moon mission was to prove out the ability to get to the moon, orbit the moon as if the lander had been deployed, and return to the earth. Orion is only doing a fast fly by, looping the moon and only spending a few hours hours at that, and what looks like a gravity “sling shot” to return to earth. Only 1 of 3 maneuvers. Seems lame to me compared to 60’s tech, if it wasn’t all faked. I still cling to the belief that what I saw back then was real, I was in high school at the time, but it’s tough when we can’t do better 50+ years later.
I agree 100%. Orion/SLS is very much lacking in capability in its current iteration when compared to Apollo and we don't even have a lander yet.
Yes it does seem intentional. But, there are only launch windows for this particular mission for like a day or two every couple weeks. So to avoid launching on Apr 1, they'll have to wait another couple weeks or something. China is gearing up, and they don't care what American "holiday" it is - they're going when they're ready. So we shouldn't care either.
At a minimum, the cr-p video and transmissions the government, NASA and the MSM showed The People were total bs.
It all sounds great for believers to believe we went to the moon for the last time 53 years ago. Now, we're going to do it again, but they won't be actually landing on the moon forecasted till 2028. Why the long wait until between now and 2028? I don't believe one word coming from the mouths at NASA. No country has ever been to the moon, or we or they would have been doing it for the last 53 years non-stop!
Artemis is using the Space Shuttle Engines (4) that are 40 years old and Elon Musk says they need 12 earth orbit based refuelings to get there. So consider this mission under former Senator Nelson was delayed for 6 years so far. . .
Really. 40 year old engines? I guess they really did loose all the Saturn tech.
Yeah, the engines were left over. They , NASA , were doing a write up on the progress about 8 years ago and they had a 6' tall man stand in the engine. This was under Senator Nelsons NASA. They were working with a rediculous budget and I noticed they were the 'old' left over engines from the Space Shuttle program that abruptly ended !
" The Artemis program has cost approximately $93 billion from 2012 to 2025, with significant budget overruns attributed to its various components, including the Space Launch System and Orion spacecraft. " from Duck Duck AI.
But you can see they did not have to pay for the engines which would have been at least half the budget. They didn't fly back to the Cape like Space X engines do to be rebuilt. No. I watched them fall back into the ocean as they Chem Trailed the sky. Which is so obscene on its own !
I watched it too and thought it was so retarded compared to what Musk and crew are doing. Literally 80% of that rocket was wasted.
$93 billion and they didn’t even make the engines. They are corrupt thieves. It was a nice touch having a jewish commander. Yet again, they are mocking us.
The government lies about everything...But not Space .The government is telling us the truth about space. . . lol