One question I’ve asked here is… when Jesus returns, how would he be recognized?
The current Christian belief seems to be that he will be in a physical white horse on the sky, and that we’ve been pulled up there to come down with him somehow (rapture) and no experience of tribulation was ever had.
Is that the correct interpretation, though, or could God’s own children miss something by expecting the wrong thing, as they did the first time when they expected a mighty general to liberate them from Rome, and got a suffering servant who atoned for sin - and through that misunderstanding, many actually even ended up rejecting him.
I don’t have an answer for this, not for you or me. Everyone will have to come up with it themselves.
There are two events according to scripture. One is Jesus coming as a thief in the night—-the doctrine where that could happen at any moment—the Harpadzo or Rapture——and one where He comes as a conquering King. Since over 300 scriptures were fulfilled literally just as they were written for His first coming, why would the over 700 scriptures of His Second coming be any different? The disciples did not understand His first coming because the Holy Spirit was not given until after His resurrection. Most of His Second coming is described in Isaiah 60-66. Take it literally just as the Bible says.
I can’t confirm that’s true or not true, however, it often seems that when everybody has something figured out, that thing can be the one potential that’s surest to not be what happens.
Virtually EVERYBODY “knows” the Rapture is gonna happen. That’s a big warning light to me.
Actually only about 1 out of 10 churches believe in a Rapture. Jesus said, let not your hearts be troubled----He was giving a review the end times ----- I go to prepare a place for you and if I go, I will come and receive you to myself. The Apostle Paul said , in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, the dead in Christ will rise and those that are alive will be changed and will be "taken up and meet Him in the clouds and so we will ever be with the Lord. This is not how we read His Second coming which is in "the day of vengeance of our God;"
The church at Philadelphia is specifically told they would NOT go through the Great Tribulation-------Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Many Evangelicals have long suspected that the largest percentage of Christians overall would support a pre-Tribulation view, an idea that was corroborated by the data, as the largest share of pastors—36 percent—reported believing in that Rapture paradigm. The second largest proportion was the 25 percent who agreed that “the concept of the Rapture is not to be taken literally.” Furthermore, 18 percent selected a post-Tribulation paradigm, with smaller proportions for mid-Tribulation (4 percent), pre-wrath (4 percent), preterist ideals (1 percent), and none of the options presented (8 percent).
From the book, The Armageddon Code: One Journalist's Quest for End-Times Answers by Billy Hallowell, page 171 (2016). A poll was commissioned through LifeWay Research, asking one thousand senior pastors, ministers, and priests—all Protestants who self-identified as either Evangelical, mainline, or “neither”—across America to tell us what they believe.
I mainly encounter Protestants, so probably that’s why my perception is “virtually everybody”. Among Protestants, it is a much higher percentage.
Aspect of believers are in every church today. Some cling to doctrine which is a good thing but they value doctrine over Jesus. Some are luke warm meaning they say they are Christian but you wouldn't know it unless they told you. Some say they are Christian but only go to church one hour a week and never study the Bible.Some are faithful and will be taken out before the Great Tribulation. The parable of the ten virgins shows that only half of the virgins (church) were invited to the Wedding Supper. The other half were left behind.
One question I’ve asked here is… when Jesus returns, how would he be recognized?
I just now saw this comment of yours. What an excellent question and analysis.
Everyone, please go look up all the times Q used the word "dogma."
What was the context?
What was the warning?
Repeated how many times?
Decide to be open-minded enough that you want to know, even if it conflicts with your current worldview.
The only King I know of is Jesus. We live in Satan’s world and Jesus is our Only hope. Trump is battling a Cabal that has been in power behind the scenes since Nimrod became the first world ruler. Only if God delays the Second coming will our POTUS prevail. The Cabal would burn the entire world just to rule over what is left.
Cuck the turd is the most impotent foreign leader ever to visit the White House. People think he’s a king, but his nation has been conquered and he hasn’t even lifted a sword. Long past time to make the royal family regular people again.
Love the fact that they made the red carpet into a giant red T. They will say it had to be that way to get all 4 of them in front of the cameras. Maybe. But it's still a big red T.
Oh frens... as a bona fide pretend time traveler from 2036, I can assure you that all of Trump's "king" jokes are going to age like a fine wine.
"And she gave birth to a male child who would come to rule (all) the nations with a rod of iron." ~Revelation 12
I am confused, do you think Trump is this ruler instead of King Jesus?
One question I’ve asked here is… when Jesus returns, how would he be recognized?
The current Christian belief seems to be that he will be in a physical white horse on the sky, and that we’ve been pulled up there to come down with him somehow (rapture) and no experience of tribulation was ever had.
Is that the correct interpretation, though, or could God’s own children miss something by expecting the wrong thing, as they did the first time when they expected a mighty general to liberate them from Rome, and got a suffering servant who atoned for sin - and through that misunderstanding, many actually even ended up rejecting him.
I don’t have an answer for this, not for you or me. Everyone will have to come up with it themselves.
There are two events according to scripture. One is Jesus coming as a thief in the night—-the doctrine where that could happen at any moment—the Harpadzo or Rapture——and one where He comes as a conquering King. Since over 300 scriptures were fulfilled literally just as they were written for His first coming, why would the over 700 scriptures of His Second coming be any different? The disciples did not understand His first coming because the Holy Spirit was not given until after His resurrection. Most of His Second coming is described in Isaiah 60-66. Take it literally just as the Bible says.
I can’t confirm that’s true or not true, however, it often seems that when everybody has something figured out, that thing can be the one potential that’s surest to not be what happens.
Virtually EVERYBODY “knows” the Rapture is gonna happen. That’s a big warning light to me.
Actually only about 1 out of 10 churches believe in a Rapture. Jesus said, let not your hearts be troubled----He was giving a review the end times ----- I go to prepare a place for you and if I go, I will come and receive you to myself. The Apostle Paul said , in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, the dead in Christ will rise and those that are alive will be changed and will be "taken up and meet Him in the clouds and so we will ever be with the Lord. This is not how we read His Second coming which is in "the day of vengeance of our God;"
The church at Philadelphia is specifically told they would NOT go through the Great Tribulation-------Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Don't believe me or anybody else, do your own study. Here is a help! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIh6xYcva4w
Looked it up and found this:
I mainly encounter Protestants, so probably that’s why my perception is “virtually everybody”. Among Protestants, it is a much higher percentage.
As there were also 7 churches, maybe it also depends which “church” someone is counted among.
What defined the church at Philadelphia?
Aspect of believers are in every church today. Some cling to doctrine which is a good thing but they value doctrine over Jesus. Some are luke warm meaning they say they are Christian but you wouldn't know it unless they told you. Some say they are Christian but only go to church one hour a week and never study the Bible.Some are faithful and will be taken out before the Great Tribulation. The parable of the ten virgins shows that only half of the virgins (church) were invited to the Wedding Supper. The other half were left behind.
I just now saw this comment of yours. What an excellent question and analysis.
Everyone, please go look up all the times Q used the word "dogma."
What was the context?
What was the warning?
Repeated how many times?
Decide to be open-minded enough that you want to know, even if it conflicts with your current worldview.
No spoilers, fren.
We are all going to see what happens as the future unfolds.
The only King I know of is Jesus. We live in Satan’s world and Jesus is our Only hope. Trump is battling a Cabal that has been in power behind the scenes since Nimrod became the first world ruler. Only if God delays the Second coming will our POTUS prevail. The Cabal would burn the entire world just to rule over what is left.
Eewww wash good after touching them
Cuck the turd is the most impotent foreign leader ever to visit the White House. People think he’s a king, but his nation has been conquered and he hasn’t even lifted a sword. Long past time to make the royal family regular people again.
Thump should’ve invited Prince Harry and that chick
He’s on the outs with dad.
Come to think about it. Where are all the Libtards protesting “no kings“ at the White House during the King’s visit?
Exactly!
Right?
Off somewhere spending their paychecks from the imposter king in this video.
Love the fact that they made the red carpet into a giant red T. They will say it had to be that way to get all 4 of them in front of the cameras. Maybe. But it's still a big red T.
You gotta love the Boss and his hugely big brass balls!