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Fighting the Surveillance State - License Plate Obscurance (youtube.com)
posted 30 days ago by AmateurExpert 30 days ago by AmateurExpert +21 / -0
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– TaQo 7 points 30 days ago +7 / -0

You can't obscure your license plate.

Even dark tinted covers are a ticketable offense in most places.

What you CAN do, legally, is install bright infrared LEDs on both sides of the plate so it floods the area with invisible to human eyesight IR light that completely floods the area with so much light it blinds the camera via super saturating the camera chip itself.

The moar you be knowin 🌈 an sheit 💩

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– MICHIGANisRED 4 points 29 days ago +4 / -0

Fun DIY project 🙂 thanks

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– AmateurExpert [S] 4 points 29 days ago +4 / -0

I’ll eventually post why we have license plates at all.

It’s a bit of a joke.

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– Mr_A 3 points 29 days ago +3 / -0

With today's cars license plates are superfluous: they can track via manufacturers tracking devices that are already included as part of security for the financing arm.

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– AmateurExpert [S] 2 points 26 days ago +2 / -0

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5rHLodtOKm4

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– Mr_A 1 point 26 days ago +1 / -0

Nice

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– AmateurExpert [S] 2 points 29 days ago +2 / -0

Which definitely can’t be removed…

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– j3msos3 2 points 29 days ago +2 / -0

Not to mention the RFIDs in the sidewalls of the tires

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– AmateurExpert [S] 1 point 26 days ago +1 / -0

Oh shoot, hadn’t been aware of that one.

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– Trump4evergirl 2 points 29 days ago +2 / -0

Sweet! One of these ALPRs was just installed in a nearby town. Wouldn't you know, it's very close to the Walmart. Many people go there from nearby towns so they're getting a lot of data, though they say they're not keeping any of it.

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– TaQo 4 points 29 days ago +4 / -0

Many PDs have them in their cruisers...

They patrol parking lots on a Friday to scoop up people delinquent on child support, bail jumpers and others 'ripe for the pickin'

Gotta keep them jails full ... otherwise politicians and their friends won't get all those sweet kickbacks to pay for hookers and drugs... and lawyers...because of... yanno...hookers and drugs... and lawyers

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– Trump4evergirl 2 points 29 days ago +2 / -0

I know this isn't popular but I'm looking forward to a blackout. This whole situation has become dystopic. I know it will create loads of problems, including for my family, but this is worse. No matter what we, the people want, we get this anyway.

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– TaQo 2 points 29 days ago +2 / -0

You can't do that to yourself... You GOTTA remember to ZOOM BACK OUT from the hyperfocussed view...I used to forget to do that too and left myself in a bad neighborhood...I can't do that anymore.

You gotta strengthen your connection to God whatever that means to YOU and realize that you're literally in eternity... RIGHT NOW!

Whether it's labelled good or bad, neither will last very long... this is why older folks tell you, "Hey don't worry about it - it's all gonna work out!"... and guess what? It ALWAYS DOES!!! That's wisdom - seeing the patterns and knowing.

When less than desirable thoughts creep in - train yourself to "go to your happy place" - meaning - Go hang out at God's House for a while...in the "Temple built without human hands"...Rise above it all... Overcome...ASCENSION Whether you have realized it yet or not - You ARE much, much more than your physical body and collection of thoughts.

I hope you understand what I'm trying to tell you, fren. With so much darkness in this world, only God's Light can comfort our fears and help others to see the Light as well. If you really think about it - turning away from darkness and towards God's Light, could very well be God's divine plan for humanity. Where we all just "get on with it" and realize with clarity that nothing else is more attractive than God's Love for us - The devil's legions can keep their shiny trinkets - and stick them where the sun don't shine.

Yanno? Some itches just can't be scratched any other way...

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– TaogTaov 4 points 29 days ago +4 / -0

I got ‘FLOCKED’ the other day - pulled over for expired registration ( camera was used to determine this ). Not sure if it is / was a legal traffic stop under the 4th amendment - don’t have pockets deep enough to find out.

I can’t wait for the tolls to start changing on the fly (based on revenue needs - aka: greed) like wal-mart digital price tags.

F’n clown world!!!

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– killerspacerobot 4 points 29 days ago +4 / -0

I have no concern over "surveillance," which is only what boils down to conducting one's business in public without concealment or disguise. Privacy begins at the walls or barriers around my property. As long as my rights are respected, I have no concern for who notices my comings or goings...because someone will always notice. That is the way it all started out: coming into town on a distinctive horse, being noticed as one went from business to business, and recognized by acquaintances. Anonymity may be something one can indulge on the internet, but it is essentially antisocial. Or social in the wrong way (think KKK hoods). It is not appropriate for a free society.

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– AmateurExpert [S] 2 points 29 days ago +2 / -0

You probably aren’t entirely wrong on that. The question becomes “who’s surveilling and why?”

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– killerspacerobot 2 points 29 days ago +2 / -0

If you work out the numbers, it becomes an impossible enterprise. Let us say we have 350 million people...to be surveilled, as to what we are doing, and making inferences as to what it may mean. Would that mean we each have a surveillance officer watching over us? That means a total population of 700 million people. But those surveillance officers would also need to be surveilled, so we need to add another 350 million, to a total of 1.05 billion people. And, of course, those surveillance officers need to be surveilled... This becomes a surveillance dilemma similar to Zeno's Paradox. Pick your ratio. I picked 1:1 to make the problem obvious. But there is still a problem at 10:1---if that is even possible, considering division of attention and the inability of a surveillance officer to stand 24 hours on watch every day. And don't imagine that A.I. is going to help much, as an algorithm can never have any "understanding." Remember the inherent tendency for A.I. to "hallucinate"? Over 350 million people? Many of whom bear similarity to one another? The ultimate result would be a nation consisting mainly of surveillance officers, eating resources, while the minority must bear the burden of all economic production.

So, it's not going to happen. Maybe some constellation of A.I.s will maintain an observational database (or databases) into which the government, by its delegated legal authority, can make inquiries. (I once dreamed that up as a possible science fiction setting, back in the 1980s.) But that will still require suspicion and cause. If it becomes a scourge of crime, fine by me. I have no desire for society to tolerate or facilitate muggings, robberies, and rapes in back alleys, or serious traffic infractions on the street. I think it would be excellent as a first alarm for any fire or violent damage, to address the safety and rescue problem at the earliest moment.

If I have no complaint against a common person standing on a street-corner, observing my public actions, I have no complaint if that person is a policeman or a robot. It makes no difference. The only difference is whether the government infringes on my rights. And resistance to that must happen out in the open, as visible as possible, for which the internet could be a (mixed) blessing.

I'm not keen on blanking license plates. The object is what? To get away with running red lights, exceeding the speed limits, or driving recklessly? Nor am I comfortable with the current fashion of applying films to automobile windows to prevent anyone from seeing into the vehicle. This creates a tremendous hazard and risk for police who may need to stop a vehicle, as the occupants could be prepared for a deadly response to such a stop. (I spent a lot of time watching "Cops". Plenty of dicey occasions when policemen needed to stop a car, and not know what was going to result.)

I am not sympathetic to those who complain about this. When I was in my early teens, I sometimes had to go to junior high school by bus, and waited at a bus stop in my neighborhood. One morning, there was a larger, older boy walking up the far side of the street, and I was watching him idly. He noticed that, and shouted at me "Stop watching me." Since I didn't take well to being ordered around, I kept watching. So, he came over to loom and repeat his order. I just stared at him. He punched me hard in the shoulder. I still stared at him. He went off, and I stared at him until he had gone out of sight. So, the guy who was nervous about being stared at was a violent asshole. An interesting life lesson.

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– Dumbass101 3 points 29 days ago +3 / -0

Don't forget to format and clear your bluetooth in your car when you sell it. 🚗

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– AmateurExpert [S] 3 points 30 days ago +3 / -0

Video summary:

Summary

This video addresses the growing concern over increasingly pervasive surveillance, focusing on AI-powered Flock license plate reader cameras that covertly track citizens’ movements without consent. The creator highlights the dangers of data collection, privacy violations, and government or corporate overreach enabled by these technologies. The video targets viewers concerned about privacy, surveillance, and civil liberties, offering practical information on how these systems work and methods to resist or mitigate their impact. Viewers will learn about the mechanics and implications of Flock cameras, legal context, and real-world examples of abuse, along with possible solutions to protect personal privacy.

Timeline Summary

  • 00:00–02:10: Introduction to surveillance concerns and Flock camera discovery
    The creator introduces the topic by recounting spotting Flock surveillance cameras in a Lowe’s parking lot. He expresses his distrust of politicians and surveillance states, setting a critical tone.

  • 02:10–05:05: How Flock cameras operate and CEO’s intent
    Explanation of Flock cameras: AI-powered license plate readers capturing plate images, vehicle details, occupants, and storing data indefinitely. The CEO’s ambition to embed the technology widely and influence policymakers is discussed.

  • 05:05–06:30: Real-world misuse and abuse of Flock cameras
    Discusses cases of stalking, false warrants, and repeated targeting enabled by Flock data. Highlights failures of authorities to correct errors, demonstrating systemic issues with surveillance data handling.

  • 06:30–09:20: Privacy, legal rights, and surveillance in public spaces
    Clarifies that while public privacy should not be expected, Fourth Amendment protections forbid warrantless mass data collection and usage. Amazon Ring camera surveillance examples connect broader surveillance concerns.

  • 09:20–12:55: Critique of speed and traffic cameras, and toll road profiteering speculation
    The creator criticizes speed and red-light cameras as revenue-generating tools rather than safety measures, shares personal driving anecdotes, and speculates about private companies mismanaging toll road funds.

  • 12:55–15:50: Exploring resistance strategies and introduction to camerastopper.com
    Reviews products designed to distort or block camera sensors, focusing on a distortion film license plate cover that disrupts infrared cameras like Flock. Discusses North Carolina legality and plans to test the cover.

  • 15:50–18:35: Legal philosophy, jury nullification, and civic action
    Discusses the nature of laws as social contracts, citing a controversial example of justice served through illegal means to protect a child. Explains jury nullification as a means of legally rejecting unjust laws and encourages civic resistance.

  • 18:35–20:50: Installation and demonstration of license plate cover product
    Shows the installation of the camerastopper license plate cover and demonstrates its effectiveness in obscuring plate numbers from higher-angle surveillance cameras while remaining readable to humans.

  • 20:50–23:40: Additional sabotage options and community resources
    Presents more aggressive resistance methods such as drilling or destroying cameras, and shares resources like defloc.org and apps that track Flock camera locations. Mentions hacking incidents as evidence of vulnerability.

  • 23:40–23:50: Conclusion and call to action
    Urges viewers to spread awareness, share tips, and actively resist surveillance technologies as a duty to protect freedom.

Key Points

  • 🔍 Flock cameras use AI to covertly capture and store license plate and vehicle details, tracking movements across multiple locations without voter approval.
  • 🔐 Collected data can be and has been abused for stalking, false warrants, and invasive policing, with little accountability or recourse.
  • ⚖️ Fourth Amendment rights are undermined by warrantless use of this surveillance data, raising significant privacy and legal concerns.
  • 🛡️ Products like camerastopper.com’s distortion film can impair Flock camera effectiveness by disrupting infrared imaging, offering a non-destructive defense.
  • ⚔️ Jury nullification is a legal tool citizens can use to combat unjust laws related to surveillance and traffic enforcement.
  • 🗺️ Community-driven efforts such as defloc.org help map camera locations, increasing public awareness and enabling avoidance.
  • 💡 The video exemplifies a blend of practical DIY resistance and civic education on surveillance issues, urging active pushback against the surveillance state.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

  1. What exactly are Flock cameras and how do they operate?
    Flock cameras are AI-driven license plate readers installed in public areas that photograph vehicles, license plates, occupants, and other vehicle details, then send this data to cloud databases for tracking and surveillance.

  2. Is it legal to use license plate covers or films to block or distort these cameras?
    Laws vary by state. In some places like North Carolina, it’s illegal to obscure license plates, but distortion films often keep plates readable to the human eye while blocking infrared camera capture. Legal risks exist and should be researched locally.

  3. Can I find out if my license plate has been tracked by these cameras?
    Websites like haveibeenflocked.com can search public data sets to check if your plate appears, though data may be incomplete due to non-public databases or jurisdictions.

  4. What can an individual do to fight back against AI surveillance like Flock cameras?
    Options range from using protective license plate covers, mapping camera locations via apps or websites, engaging in civic actions like jury nullification, to raising public awareness and demanding legislative accountability.

  5. Are all traffic enforcement cameras harmful or just Flock cameras?
    While some traffic cameras promote safety, many including speed and red light cameras primarily generate revenue rather than reduce accidents, contributing to public distrust and over-policing concerns.

Conclusion

The video offers an urgent and personal perspective on the dangers of unchecked AI surveillance embodied by Flock camera networks. Through a mix of technical explanation, legal context, and practical resistance strategies, it empowers viewers to critically assess surveillance in their environment and take tangible steps to protect privacy. The underlying message is a call to active, informed citizenship—resisting unjust surveillance not just by hiding from cameras but by refusing to accept encroachments on personal freedoms and demanding systemic change. The suggested next steps are researching local laws, using distortion license plate covers cautiously, joining community tracking efforts, and engaging in advocacy to revoke or regulate invasive surveillance programs. This multi-layered approach blends awareness, technology, and legal empowerment, reflecting the complex challenges of living under the modern surveillance state.

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– MICHIGANisRED 2 points 29 days ago +2 / -0

I have money-grab fatigue

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– 427windsorman 2 points 29 days ago +2 / -0

My question is, by what authority does government cite to create a state of public surveillance, monitoring, oversight, coercion, etc?

I can tell you for a fact that there is no such power delegated to government. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant of the principles upon which the Constitutional Republic of These United States of America was founded.

Your life, even in public, is still your private life. As long as you aren't infringing on the rights of others, nor injuring anyone else, without their consent, or damaging property that doesn't belong to you, then no one has any right to impede you in any way.

Liberty is the freedom to conduct oneself as you believe, without interference, and without government watching you waiting for an opportunity to force their will on you.

“In a free society, individuals have the right to do right or wrong, as long as they don’t threaten or infringe upon the rights or property of others.” ~ Mark Skousen (1947-) American economist, investment analyst, newsletter editor, college professor and author Persuasion versus Force

“It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself—anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face ... was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime ...” ~ George Orwell [Eric Arthur Blair] (1903-1950) British author his book, '1984'

“Police may have no right to privacy in carrying out official duties in public. But the civilians they interact with do.” ~ Judge Richard Allen Posner (1939-) American jurist, legal theorist and economist. Federal judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit in Chicago, Senior Lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School U.S Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit, ALCU of Illinois v. Anita Alvarez (2012) (Dissenting)

“The real danger is the gradual erosion of individual liberties through automation, integration, and interconnection of many small, separate record-keeping systems, each of which alone may seem innocuous, even benevolent, and wholly justifiable.” ~ U. S. Privacy Study Commission 1977

“Big Brother in the form of an increasingly powerful government and in an increasingly powerful private sector will pile the records high with reasons why privacy should give way to national security, to law and order, to efficiency of operation, to scientific advancement and the like.” ~ Justice William O. Douglas (1898-1980), U. S. Supreme Court Justice Points of Rebellion, 1969

“If you mind your own business, you won't be minding mine.” ~ Hank Williams (1923-1953) Legendary country music singer

“The makers of our constitution undertook to secure conditions favorable to the pursuit of happiness... They sought to protect Americans in their beliefs, their thoughts, their emotions and their sensations. They conferred, as against the government, the right to be let alone – the most comprehensive of the rights and the right most valued by civilized men.” ~ Justice Louis D. Brandeis (1856-1941) US Supreme Court Justice 1928

“Big Brother in the form of an increasingly powerful government and in an increasingly powerful private sector will pile the records high with reasons why privacy should give way to national security, to law and order, to efficiency of operation, to scientific advancement and the like.” ~ Justice William O. Douglas (1898-1980), U. S. Supreme Court Justice Points of Rebellion, 1969

“Imagine the traditionalist as living in synopticon—a suspect that is the target of 24/7 viewing, indoctrination, and conditioning by progressive auditors. In other words, a 40-45 percent minority of Americans is relentlessly lectured, sermonized, demonized, and neutered by a 360- degree ring of prying institutional overseers. There is no escape. There is no respite. There is no quarter given.” ~ Victor Davis Hanson (1953-) American classicist, military historian, columnist, farmer The Progressive Synopticon, November 18th, 2018

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.” ~ C. S. Lewis (1898-1963), British novelist "God in the Dock" (1948)

“It is easy to think the State has a lot of different objects -- military, political, economic, and what not. But in a way things are much simpler than that. The State exists simply to promote and to protect the ordinary happiness of human beings in this life. A husband and wife chatting over a fire, a couple of friends having a game of darts in a pub, a man reading a book in his own room or digging in his own garden -- that is what the State is there for. And unless they are helping to increase and prolong and protect such moments, all the laws, parliaments, armies, courts, police, economics, etc., are simply a waste of time.” ~ C. S. Lewis (1898-1963), British novelist

“Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest.” ~ John Stuart Mill (1806-1873) English philosopher and economist On Liberty, 1859

“The busybodies have begun to infect American society with a nasty intolerance -- a zeal to police the private lives of others and hammer them into standard forms -- A Nation of Finger Pointers.” ~ Lance Morrow (1939- ) American author, writer, chiefly for Time Magazine A Nation of Finger Pointers, Time magazine, Monday, Aug. 12, 1991

“Here in America, government began as a tool to assure freedom. It gradually turned into a hideously expensive political toy designed to redistribute your wealth and control most aspects of your business and private life.” ~ Mark Skousen (1947-) American economist, investment analyst, newsletter editor, college professor and author

“Today’s political leaders demonstrate their low opinion of the public with every social law they pass. They believe that, if given the right to chose, the citizenry will probably make the wrong choice. Legislators do not think any more in terms of persuading people; they feel the need to force their agenda on the public at the point of a bayonet and the barrel of a gun, in the name of the IRS, the SEC, the FDA, the DEA, the EPA, or a multitude of other ABCs of government authority.” ~ Mark Skousen (1947-) American economist, investment analyst, newsletter editor, college professor and author Persuasion versus Force

“Open discussion of many major public questions has for some time now been taboo. We can’t open our mouths without being denounced as racists, misogynists, supremacists, imperialists or fascists. As for the media, they stand ready to trash anyone so designated.” ~ Saul Bellow (1915-2005) Canadian author, Nobel Prize for Literature in 1976

“All forms of tampering with human beings, getting at them, shaping them against their will to your own pattern, all thought control and conditioning is, therefore, a denial of that in men which makes them men and their values ultimate.” ~ Isaiah Berlin (1909-1997) Russian-British social and political theorist, philosopher, historian Two Concepts of Liberty, 1958

“Communism and fascism or nazism, although poles apart in their intellectual content, are similar in this, that both have emotional appeal to the type of personality that takes pleasure in being submerged in a mass movement and submitting to superior authority.” ~ James A. C. Brown (1911-1964) Scottish psychiatrist Techniques of Persuasion, 1963

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