The old man needs to demand $30M, the moving of the house, and an official apology from the university. The removal of the schools president and all leftist facility might be a consideration, also.
Except, he hasn't lived there for decades. He tried to use the 'but it's my home' victim argument. But he's been living elsewhere and renting it out to others for many years.
ASU even upped the offer to $999,999, but he wanted 3x that amount. It wasn't about the nostalgia. IT WAS about THE MONEY.
See my other comments here for additional details.
Even so, the property is his and he should be able to do with it as he pleases within the limits of the law. He should not be forced to sell it because a private business covets it.
It's the law of Eminent Domain. It's been this way since the federal government’s right to use it was implicitly recognized when the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution was ratified on December 15, 1791!
FYI: "Eminent Domain" is the legal power of the government, or its authorized delegates, to seize private property for public use without the owner's consent.
In the United States, this authority is governed by the Fifth Amendment, which requires that the taking serve a "public use" and that property owners receive "just compensation."
No. Read my other comments. The guy hasn't lived there for decades. He's been renting it out to tenants. He's been holding on to the tiny house on the tiny dirt lot (4,000 s.f. lot shaped like a triangle) for the Big Payout, hoping to strike it rich.
He turned down a one million dollar offer,($1,000,000.00!) claiming he wanted to move the house and it would cost $3 million to relocate it, which is B.S.
This is a MONEY GRAB struggle and nothing else. And now, he'll be forced to take a much lesser offer.
They could offer a lucrative package that he’d probably take. And if he didn’t, they could modify their plans and build it elsewhere on campus. But the honest answer is that is just easier and cheaper to take the property from the old man.
The house is small on a very tiny lot that is no longer a residential area. All has been converted to commercial except his little spot. 100 years ago, his brick home was in the middle of farmland and fields. No longer. His home fronts and sides to busy rush hour traffic and highrise commercial buildings. Whatever it was 50 years ago when he bought it is gone. Most people would have sold and gotten out long ago.
The whole piece of ground (the lot) is only 4,067 Square Feet total. The old house and decrepit outbuildings is just 1,277 sq. ft.
A couple of rundown places adjacent to him that were sold and are in the process of being torn down, with the lots cleared and turned into parking lot. He doesn't even have a paved driveway. The Zillow estimate for the house and tiny lot in its condition is $140,000, which is very low for Phoenix.
The offer of $850,000 for this tiny spot is EXTREMELY GENEROUS. The old man should be thanking his lucky stars they are willing to give him that amount. He could buy a much nicer and larger place with his profits. Sheesh. Take a look:
While he is being a dumbass, for that small of a lot I'm sure they can build around it and acquire it after he is dead. No way that small of a space ruins the entire plan.
You're ignoring the historical aspect of it. Last house of its kind. Already officially designated an historical property. The main house looks to be in pretty good shape and could be turned into a museum of the history of the area.
Eminent domain should not be allowed for situations like this. It should be for government only (not corporations like ASU) and only for greater public good like roads. Building a university campus should not involve eminent domain!!
Just because something is old, doesn't mean we have to make a big deal over it. Interestingly, the owner hasn't lived there in a very long time. Reports confirm that the building has been rented out to a man named Schwartz for at least the last 8 years.
According to one article, Schwartz created a sort of museum inside the house, displaying photos and other archival material of historical Phoenix. He even built a coffee bar in the house that he opened to the public during recent 'First Fridays'.
He called it 'The Emerson Espresso Preservation Lounge'. But the business is now listed as 'temporarily closed'. The owner of the property would have had to be on board with the use of his home as a commercial business or coffee shop. There would have been health code compliance and variances obtained and zoning changes petitioned and approved. Maybe the Schwartz fellow is a relative of the owner. Who knows.
And, according to the news article, Mr. Young (the owner) lived there in the 1970s - 1990s. Nowhere does it say he lived there after that! Perhaps this whole cry of 'they are taking my home!' is a ruse to get more $$$ out of ASU.
Mr. Young can't claim victimhood over his primary residence being condemned, when it is not where he lives and is actually a rental property that has a tenant in it.
And there's this: Young said ASU bumped its offer to $999,000, but Young refused because ASU wouldn’t pay for relocating the house, which Young said would cost between $2 million and $3 million. [Now that's just ridiculous!]
Eminent domain only works if the people of the neighborhood allow it to. You are literally having your life stolen from you what more of a reason do you need to fight.
Eminent domain is a great evil and like property tax prevents someone from truly owning their home and land.
YES!! Should be abolished! 🤬
The old man needs to demand $30M, the moving of the house, and an official apology from the university. The removal of the schools president and all leftist facility might be a consideration, also.
Yes!
PLUS force them to watch reruns of The View.
The man should keep his property and live out his days there in peace. After that, the property should go to his heir(s).
Except, he hasn't lived there for decades. He tried to use the 'but it's my home' victim argument. But he's been living elsewhere and renting it out to others for many years.
ASU even upped the offer to $999,999, but he wanted 3x that amount. It wasn't about the nostalgia. IT WAS about THE MONEY.
See my other comments here for additional details.
Even so, the property is his and he should be able to do with it as he pleases within the limits of the law. He should not be forced to sell it because a private business covets it.
It's the law of Eminent Domain. It's been this way since the federal government’s right to use it was implicitly recognized when the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution was ratified on December 15, 1791!
FYI: "Eminent Domain" is the legal power of the government, or its authorized delegates, to seize private property for public use without the owner's consent.
In the United States, this authority is governed by the Fifth Amendment, which requires that the taking serve a "public use" and that property owners receive "just compensation."
No. Read my other comments. The guy hasn't lived there for decades. He's been renting it out to tenants. He's been holding on to the tiny house on the tiny dirt lot (4,000 s.f. lot shaped like a triangle) for the Big Payout, hoping to strike it rich.
He turned down a one million dollar offer,($1,000,000.00!) claiming he wanted to move the house and it would cost $3 million to relocate it, which is B.S.
This is a MONEY GRAB struggle and nothing else. And now, he'll be forced to take a much lesser offer.
Hey Elon…help a brother out!
☘️
I did not have Danish fuktards stealing a ranchers land on my bingo card.
Take all of greenland,as payback.
AGREED! 🤬
https://x.com/i/status/2064395406927344096
I commented on the wrong one,this one is just as bad,
Oh my....this is CRIMINAL! People need to be under the jail! 🤬
Someone must be teaching these fuktards. I don't see small town people knowing how to set this up.
I'm certain you're correct..
https://nitter.poast.org/i/status/2064870885895417996
Probably because he told them to go fuck themselves the last time they offered.
They could offer a lucrative package that he’d probably take. And if he didn’t, they could modify their plans and build it elsewhere on campus. But the honest answer is that is just easier and cheaper to take the property from the old man.
🤬
Well there damn well better be a HUGE fight
HERE ARE THE TRUE DETAILS:
The house is small on a very tiny lot that is no longer a residential area. All has been converted to commercial except his little spot. 100 years ago, his brick home was in the middle of farmland and fields. No longer. His home fronts and sides to busy rush hour traffic and highrise commercial buildings. Whatever it was 50 years ago when he bought it is gone. Most people would have sold and gotten out long ago.
The whole piece of ground (the lot) is only 4,067 Square Feet total. The old house and decrepit outbuildings is just 1,277 sq. ft.
A couple of rundown places adjacent to him that were sold and are in the process of being torn down, with the lots cleared and turned into parking lot. He doesn't even have a paved driveway. The Zillow estimate for the house and tiny lot in its condition is $140,000, which is very low for Phoenix.
The offer of $850,000 for this tiny spot is EXTREMELY GENEROUS. The old man should be thanking his lucky stars they are willing to give him that amount. He could buy a much nicer and larger place with his profits. Sheesh. Take a look:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/623-N-4th-St-Phoenix-AZ-85004/7522336_zpid/
While he is being a dumbass, for that small of a lot I'm sure they can build around it and acquire it after he is dead. No way that small of a space ruins the entire plan.
Look at the map. It certainly does.
You're ignoring the historical aspect of it. Last house of its kind. Already officially designated an historical property. The main house looks to be in pretty good shape and could be turned into a museum of the history of the area.
Eminent domain should not be allowed for situations like this. It should be for government only (not corporations like ASU) and only for greater public good like roads. Building a university campus should not involve eminent domain!!
Just because something is old, doesn't mean we have to make a big deal over it. Interestingly, the owner hasn't lived there in a very long time. Reports confirm that the building has been rented out to a man named Schwartz for at least the last 8 years.
According to one article, Schwartz created a sort of museum inside the house, displaying photos and other archival material of historical Phoenix. He even built a coffee bar in the house that he opened to the public during recent 'First Fridays'.
He called it 'The Emerson Espresso Preservation Lounge'. But the business is now listed as 'temporarily closed'. The owner of the property would have had to be on board with the use of his home as a commercial business or coffee shop. There would have been health code compliance and variances obtained and zoning changes petitioned and approved. Maybe the Schwartz fellow is a relative of the owner. Who knows.
And, according to the news article, Mr. Young (the owner) lived there in the 1970s - 1990s. Nowhere does it say he lived there after that! Perhaps this whole cry of 'they are taking my home!' is a ruse to get more $$$ out of ASU.
Mr. Young can't claim victimhood over his primary residence being condemned, when it is not where he lives and is actually a rental property that has a tenant in it.
And there's this: Young said ASU bumped its offer to $999,000, but Young refused because ASU wouldn’t pay for relocating the house, which Young said would cost between $2 million and $3 million. [Now that's just ridiculous!]
See this:
https://www.facebook.com/p/The-Emerson-Espresso-Preservation-Lounge-100086227214958/
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/asu-moves-seize-raze-historic-phoenix-home-medical-school-40673272/
They never even showed the house.
Here's a good article that includes a link to a video: https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/asu-moves-seize-raze-historic-phoenix-home-medical-school-40673272/
Video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYuZcQTI8Ke/?igsh=ZjM2MnNsaDIycmp2
Eminent domain only works if the people of the neighborhood allow it to. You are literally having your life stolen from you what more of a reason do you need to fight.