They report on today's speech by the president in Pa stating that America has set a record in that the most factories are being built ever--by 3X. Then Fox goes on to say that polls state that the people disagree with how Trump is running things.
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Fox is worse. They pretend to be your friend and stab you in the back.
Yes Brett Baier and Martha MacCallum will stab you in the neck like they did in 2020 when they gave Arizona to Joe Biden with only 15% of the votes counted. I have not watched that channel since then.
They let commies blather for 10 minutes or more,with minimal pushback.
And they sell bullshit narrative after bullshit narrative.....
Thanks to Fax naws I've seen people go from being the cats chasing the laser pointer to the cats looking at the entity holding the laser pointer.
Same! Absolute shit show. Literally.
I stopped watching election night 2020
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Me too. I bet it's when Hemmer showed us that 30K votes blinked off Trump and onto Xiden around 3AM and not a single comment only his jaw drop.
I’ll never forget when megyn Kelly interviewed Alefentis on Fox News. I thought for sure it was going to open things up about pizza gate but she lobbed softballs and shut it down. Then she got a huge contract to go to NNC like 3 days later.
They have always been compromised. I still see a lot of pro pharma shit on there too. I won’t trust half the people on there because of shit like this.
I was disappointed too--the Washington Magazine he interviewed for revealed that he stored tomatoes in the basement. Kelly had an easy question there--why did you later say there was no basement?
Yes that’s because Fox & Fox News are what is known as “controlled opposition”
They’re no good. Once in a while they might actually cover a story truthfully with the integrity it deserves but that’s only to keep people on the hook.
All fake news.
After Trump started saying fake news I stop watching.
Is that what the polls say?
NPR poll. WTF. The Mack Truck event was a big deal. Goal: shift a swing area to a reliable red area. Making Pennsylvania reliably red. Changed Scranton, I think the Pittsburgh area has flipped red and I think the Lehigh valley is flipping red.
So you think they shouldn't have reported on what the poll said, because it was negative?
Let me ask you the same question. So you think they should because polls are so accurate,unbiased, and never manipulated?
Being angry at a new channel for reporting on a poll seems to be a bit much.
We don't have any problem with polls that reflect positively on President Trump. The same new channels, the same companies doing the polls.
The polls said Trump had a 6% chance of beating Hillary. And you trust them?
No. I'm not saying I trust polls. I'm pointing out that we don't have a problem celebrating polls that we like. Yet they're from the same people. Do you trust the polls that are in President Trump's favor? Do you complain that Fox shows those polls?
I'm pointing out a double standard. It's common to see people complaining about the news publishing negative polls, but we celebrate good polls and share those with everyone we know.
I think that having blatant double standards hurts our credibility. Look at it from a normie's perspective. We complain that the news publishes polls because they're untrustworthy and biased and manipulated. But anytime a poll is in President Trump's favor, we celebrate it and use it as evidence that we're winning.
Do you really not see the issue there?
No. I don't comment on polls as a rule and I don't use them as evidence. I quit responding to pollsters 15 years ago, including Rasmussen.
I can understand why you've gone that route. But I'm sure you've noticed others celebrating polls in favor of President Trump and sharing them with normies and using them as evidence that we're winning.
The lettering needs to be big so people know what poll they are citing and they should show the trends in the polls, especially the heavily biased ones instead of the raw numbers.
When it gets a bit closer to the election, I start looking at the internals for better information. If they don’t publish the internals, you can just throw it in the trash.
That's basically the point I'm trying to make.
If polls are unreliable, biased, manipulated, or outright fake, then we shouldn't use them as evidence regardless of whether they help Trump or hurt Trump.
But if we're going to celebrate favorable polls, share them with normies, cite them as proof we're winning, and use them to support our arguments, then it seems odd to suddenly dismiss all polls as fake the moment one shows something we don't like.
I'm not arguing that polls are trustworthy. They're not, generally. Anyone can create a poll that gets the results they want using of those manipulation tactics. I'm arguing that we should apply the same standard to all of them.
From a normie's perspective, "this poll is evidence because it helps us" and "that poll is fake because it hurts us" looks like a double standard.
If the methodology is bad, then it's bad when the results favor Trump and when they don't.
If the methodology is good, then we can't only accept the results we like.
Otherwise we're not evaluating the evidence. We're evaluating whether we agree with the conclusion.
Agree. There are good, bad and ugly pollsters. Even the ones that I think are the most reliable, tend to understate Republican strength until right before the election. It’s like they are holding a secret. It has never made sense to me. And the Real Clear Poll average is always intentionally misleading. I typically throw out the highs and lows for a better average. Everything with a grain of salt and the trend is you friend.
Pay no attention to Fox polls. I learned that Paul Ryan is the boss over Fox polls.
The polls I'm talking about are the national ones like Gallup, Pew, Ipsos, Rasmussen, etc.
Especially the ones that claim to be non-partisan.
Polls from places like Fox or CNN are pretty well known to be heavily biased in favor of their demographics.
This should be their tagline