I wonder if there are some shenanigans going on with the house where they pass the Save America Act out of house knowing full well that Senate will not pass it.
This is similar to the tactic used when a congressman or senator screams his support for a bill all the while knowing it will not have votes to pass. Like a dog barking on the other side of the gate until it's opened. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Kn-mSHceYYQ?feature=share
I was thinking the same thing. It is a backdoor understanding they have operated by for many decades. The House has to stand for election every two years. They can go back to their home districts and tell their constituents, look... I tried. All the time knowing full well whatever they tried to do would be killed in the Senate.
One of the holdouts, Collins, is up for reelection in a very solid blue state. It would be hard for her to vote for this given her state could end up electing her opponent - a total Dem nut case. But hey, she should have retired already, but she also knows if she didn't run it would almost be guaranteed they would more than likely vote for another Dem to replace her. If she wasn't up for reelection I think things might have been different. The electorate have very short memories and after a few years they forget. We can only hope that she puts the interests of the country above her own politics while she still has the chance.
I was thinking the same thing. It is a backdoor understanding they have operated by for many decades. The House has to stand for election every two years. They can go back to their home districts and tell their constituents, look... I tried. All the time knowing full well whatever they tried to do would be killed in the Senate. You made this point much better than I. This seems exactly like what is happening to me, in light of the fact that they seem to pass another version of this bull out of the house every other day.
We can only hope that she puts the interests of the country above her own politics while she still has the chance: With Collins I fear as the saying goes. "This is well beyond the remedy of hope."
I was thinking the same thing. It is a backdoor understanding they have operated by for many decades. The House has to stand for election every two years. They can go back to their home districts and tell their constituents, look... I tried. All the time knowing full well whatever they tried to do would be killed in the Senate.
Why didnt he come up with this before ????? Also I thought he said yesterday that the birthright tgat SC fked up was going into that act ? Or something to thst affect :
It's because the Senate is filled with self interested establishment uniparty members. They have no incentive to serve the people of the state they represent - only interests.
The uniparty's establishment's days are numbered. Both parties are going through massive changes. The Reps are being taken over by conservative MAGA while the Dems are loosing to the far left fridge commies and Islamists. In the end, they lose.
McConnell's lock on the Senate for sure needs to be broken. He has ruled the Senate long enough. He's only been there since 1985. He controls a lot of what does and does not get through the Senate. Nothing bypasses him without his approval. He has a lot of power in Kentucky as well. He has been a thorn in Lindsey's side for years. The old Turtle wields a great deal of power.
45 states have Senate appointments decided by the sitting governor. Kentucky is not one of them. There must be a special election to fill a vacant Senate seat. But, even if he is sick, his seat cannot be taken from him. He has to either resign or die for his seat to technically be vacant. Without that, his seat remains empty. A Senator can only vote from the floor. There is no proxy voting. Which means one less vote for the Reps when they only have a slight majority to begin with.
So even with the filibuster taken off the table, getting to 51 votes with Vance as the tie breaker would be tough given the usual RINOs. Fetterman supports the act, but that's it from the Dem side. They never used to be that way. In the past there were always a few moderate Dems that would vote on Rep bills. But not anymore. Collins is up for reelection in a very blue state. So I don't think we can count on her. Murkowski is owned and she does what her handlers tell her to do. Rand Paul is a wild card. I don't know much about the other no vote Rep. In the end, it's still a tough climb and it doesn't look promising unless those establishment RINOs can be turned. Just saying.
I wonder if there are some shenanigans going on with the house where they pass the Save America Act out of house knowing full well that Senate will not pass it.
This is similar to the tactic used when a congressman or senator screams his support for a bill all the while knowing it will not have votes to pass. Like a dog barking on the other side of the gate until it's opened. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Kn-mSHceYYQ?feature=share
I was thinking the same thing. It is a backdoor understanding they have operated by for many decades. The House has to stand for election every two years. They can go back to their home districts and tell their constituents, look... I tried. All the time knowing full well whatever they tried to do would be killed in the Senate.
One of the holdouts, Collins, is up for reelection in a very solid blue state. It would be hard for her to vote for this given her state could end up electing her opponent - a total Dem nut case. But hey, she should have retired already, but she also knows if she didn't run it would almost be guaranteed they would more than likely vote for another Dem to replace her. If she wasn't up for reelection I think things might have been different. The electorate have very short memories and after a few years they forget. We can only hope that she puts the interests of the country above her own politics while she still has the chance.
I was thinking the same thing. It is a backdoor understanding they have operated by for many decades. The House has to stand for election every two years. They can go back to their home districts and tell their constituents, look... I tried. All the time knowing full well whatever they tried to do would be killed in the Senate. You made this point much better than I. This seems exactly like what is happening to me, in light of the fact that they seem to pass another version of this bull out of the house every other day.
We can only hope that she puts the interests of the country above her own politics while she still has the chance: With Collins I fear as the saying goes. "This is well beyond the remedy of hope."
Thank you for the acknowledgement.
Sadly, I think you are right about Collins.
I'm unsure regarding this Plan..
u/mac1221 said it better than me in comment here:
I was thinking the same thing. It is a backdoor understanding they have operated by for many decades. The House has to stand for election every two years. They can go back to their home districts and tell their constituents, look... I tried. All the time knowing full well whatever they tried to do would be killed in the Senate.
Thank you.
Thune would let the budget bill crash and have the government go into a shutdown than have The Save America Act pass.
Yes...🤬
Who or what owns him?
Why didnt he come up with this before ????? Also I thought he said yesterday that the birthright tgat SC fked up was going into that act ? Or something to thst affect :
https://nitter.poast.org/i/status/2072472002938753417
it’s like a tug of war, Speaker Johnson pulling to Save America, and the Senate pulling to sink America
Yes... what a tangled web 🕸️
It's because the Senate is filled with self interested establishment uniparty members. They have no incentive to serve the people of the state they represent - only interests.
The uniparty's establishment's days are numbered. Both parties are going through massive changes. The Reps are being taken over by conservative MAGA while the Dems are loosing to the far left fridge commies and Islamists. In the end, they lose.
great analysis of the House vs.Senate, thanks. In the end, MAGA wins!
I wish Kentucky had a MAGA governor in case Sen. McConnell leaves the Senate soon.
You're welcome.
McConnell's lock on the Senate for sure needs to be broken. He has ruled the Senate long enough. He's only been there since 1985. He controls a lot of what does and does not get through the Senate. Nothing bypasses him without his approval. He has a lot of power in Kentucky as well. He has been a thorn in Lindsey's side for years. The old Turtle wields a great deal of power.
45 states have Senate appointments decided by the sitting governor. Kentucky is not one of them. There must be a special election to fill a vacant Senate seat. But, even if he is sick, his seat cannot be taken from him. He has to either resign or die for his seat to technically be vacant. Without that, his seat remains empty. A Senator can only vote from the floor. There is no proxy voting. Which means one less vote for the Reps when they only have a slight majority to begin with.
So even with the filibuster taken off the table, getting to 51 votes with Vance as the tie breaker would be tough given the usual RINOs. Fetterman supports the act, but that's it from the Dem side. They never used to be that way. In the past there were always a few moderate Dems that would vote on Rep bills. But not anymore. Collins is up for reelection in a very blue state. So I don't think we can count on her. Murkowski is owned and she does what her handlers tell her to do. Rand Paul is a wild card. I don't know much about the other no vote Rep. In the end, it's still a tough climb and it doesn't look promising unless those establishment RINOs can be turned. Just saying.
encouraging about Kentucky and elections when there is a Senate seat that is vacant
Difficult challenge with the save act in the Senate and all those RINOs and Dems!
The parliamentarian serves at the behest of the leader. And guess who that is.
Yeah...🤬
Nothing is going to change unless it can get through the Senate. Can Thune and the Parliamentarian.