Frens, what we are seeing is the result of the characteristic conservative ass-sitting posture of letting the Other Guy run for office: "Let the Other Guy run for school board. Or city council. Or state office. Or mayor. I'm happy with my life and do not want to mess with boring, tiresome, complicated politics." Well, the boring, tiresome, complicated politics is coming your way to mess with You. So happy that your sense of public virtue was concentrated in your ass.
I have been a conservative practically from birth. I have seen good conservatives rally for office many times. But they commonly fail...because they are not supported by the people who don't like the Democrats enough to Get Up Off Their Asses. How many people deplore what is going on in the schools? How many of them show up at school boards or run for those positions? There is voting with your feet...and voting with your seat.
Color me grumpy. I've seen so much of this. (And, for reference, my investment in public virtue was to campaign for several years and several thousand dollars to gain office with a team and overthrow a tyrannical union leadership. There were personal costs as well.)
It's not just that its boring, tiresome, complicated politics, you have some conservatives so adamant about freedom and choice that they're willing to accept anyone running for office and expect people to make the right choice (no pun intended).
Wow. I haven't run into them (thank God). Add foolishness to the sin of laziness. At least the lazy are deterred by actual work, but the foolish are deterred from thought.
I hate to say it, but that addition makes the scenario even worse, in my view.
Yeah, they literally say, "We shouldn't ban political parties/idelogies; if that's what the people vote for, that's what they get, for better or worse."
Like no? A party or belief system that is the antithesis of the very soul of this country and its intent in its founding should definitely be banned and never have a platform.
But they commonly fail...because they are not supported by the people who don't like the Democrats enough to Get Up Off Their Asses.
We do have more in play than that. I’ve seen people run for office, to be met by a made man who knew that 1. He was NOT going to lose no matter what 2. the exact metrics where he could very literally turn to face the other guy, say “election’s over” and nonchalantly go home because he just finished the project for his paycheck; or against someone who could tell him directly, “I don’t know why you’re in this race, I’m going to spend you out of it, you’re wasting our time.”
Our voting system IS rigged.
The same way that Trump couldn’t fire, appoint, or direct people at the presidential level, we have the same problem in local elected offices! There are unelected “civil service” equivalents operating locally!!
All that said, you’re most certainly not wrong. It’s just a good question how we can do anything about those issues.
It began with the counties, school board and all that kind stuff. Unions are dangerous for us plus all those Muslims winning are illegals they don’t supposed to be here.,
I actually disagree with you. My fren. I don't think we are lazy, because we don't want to mess with tiresome and complicated politics.
You know how many people don't want to go into politic because it's dirty and corrupt and he/she they don't want to be dealing with those demons especially if you are Christians. You want to stay away from sinful places like DC. Plus, churches have traditionally discouraged people going into politics, right?
Well, result in this. You understand that in the Bible, many great people are in politics. Daniel is one. David and Nehemiah. There's others. We need to encourage Christians going into politics.
Why would I disagree with that? My other complaint is that talk of "the Church militant" is mostly fantasizing. I observe "the Church complacent": Christians being too sanctimonious to get their hands dirty. "Leave the dirty work to God, and the breathing of holiness to us." Meanwhile, they are completely puzzled when their teenagers go off to college, armed only with hymns, to be demolished by atheists. Secularism (atheism in drag) is every bit a danger as Islam, but we are even more blinded to it.
But I have experienced mainly those who make no Christian objections, just objections of personal inconvenience.
Frens, what we are seeing is the result of the characteristic conservative ass-sitting posture of letting the Other Guy run for office: "Let the Other Guy run for school board. Or city council. Or state office. Or mayor. I'm happy with my life and do not want to mess with boring, tiresome, complicated politics." Well, the boring, tiresome, complicated politics is coming your way to mess with You. So happy that your sense of public virtue was concentrated in your ass.
I have been a conservative practically from birth. I have seen good conservatives rally for office many times. But they commonly fail...because they are not supported by the people who don't like the Democrats enough to Get Up Off Their Asses. How many people deplore what is going on in the schools? How many of them show up at school boards or run for those positions? There is voting with your feet...and voting with your seat.
Color me grumpy. I've seen so much of this. (And, for reference, my investment in public virtue was to campaign for several years and several thousand dollars to gain office with a team and overthrow a tyrannical union leadership. There were personal costs as well.)
It's not just that its boring, tiresome, complicated politics, you have some conservatives so adamant about freedom and choice that they're willing to accept anyone running for office and expect people to make the right choice (no pun intended).
Wow. I haven't run into them (thank God). Add foolishness to the sin of laziness. At least the lazy are deterred by actual work, but the foolish are deterred from thought.
I hate to say it, but that addition makes the scenario even worse, in my view.
Yeah, they literally say, "We shouldn't ban political parties/idelogies; if that's what the people vote for, that's what they get, for better or worse."
Like no? A party or belief system that is the antithesis of the very soul of this country and its intent in its founding should definitely be banned and never have a platform.
We do have more in play than that. I’ve seen people run for office, to be met by a made man who knew that 1. He was NOT going to lose no matter what 2. the exact metrics where he could very literally turn to face the other guy, say “election’s over” and nonchalantly go home because he just finished the project for his paycheck; or against someone who could tell him directly, “I don’t know why you’re in this race, I’m going to spend you out of it, you’re wasting our time.”
Our voting system IS rigged.
The same way that Trump couldn’t fire, appoint, or direct people at the presidential level, we have the same problem in local elected offices! There are unelected “civil service” equivalents operating locally!!
All that said, you’re most certainly not wrong. It’s just a good question how we can do anything about those issues.
Exactly this. The LA elections being the latest example of the rigged public service system.
It began with the counties, school board and all that kind stuff. Unions are dangerous for us plus all those Muslims winning are illegals they don’t supposed to be here.,
It has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican. It's good vs evil and conservative vs liberal.
For sure
I actually disagree with you. My fren. I don't think we are lazy, because we don't want to mess with tiresome and complicated politics.
You know how many people don't want to go into politic because it's dirty and corrupt and he/she they don't want to be dealing with those demons especially if you are Christians. You want to stay away from sinful places like DC. Plus, churches have traditionally discouraged people going into politics, right?
Well, result in this. You understand that in the Bible, many great people are in politics. Daniel is one. David and Nehemiah. There's others. We need to encourage Christians going into politics.
Why would I disagree with that? My other complaint is that talk of "the Church militant" is mostly fantasizing. I observe "the Church complacent": Christians being too sanctimonious to get their hands dirty. "Leave the dirty work to God, and the breathing of holiness to us." Meanwhile, they are completely puzzled when their teenagers go off to college, armed only with hymns, to be demolished by atheists. Secularism (atheism in drag) is every bit a danger as Islam, but we are even more blinded to it.
But I have experienced mainly those who make no Christian objections, just objections of personal inconvenience.
But I have experienced mainly those who make no Christian objections, just objections of personal inconvenience.
I see.