I really don't know if time will tell the story of damage & fatalities. It's in Israel's best interest to downplay damage and fatalities as much as possible to discourage Iran from spending time money and resources on further attacks.

Appear strong when you are weak.

Oh my gosh did you really just do that? You literally just judged me for judging and you don't even understand that Bible verse that you used. Judge not (by any standard but God's) lest you be judged by that standard.

The Bible instructs Christians in multiple places throughout scripture to judge.... By God's standards. In fact you can't even preach the gospel without calling out sin which requires judgment.

I'm sorry but seriously if you can't even get that one little basic thing right you need to ask yourself how well you understand everything else. I'm not trying to be mean I'm just saying that you do not have a remotely biblical grasp on that subject at all.

Here are Bible verses that instruct Christians to exercise judgment in a righteous and discerning manner:

1. John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

2. 1 Corinthians 5:12 "For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?"

3. 1 Corinthians 6:2-3 "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? ... Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?"

4. Matthew 7:15-16 "Beware of false prophets... Ye shall know them by their fruits." (Implying discernment, which involves judgment.)

5. Galatians 6:1 "Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness..." (Restoration involves recognizing wrongdoing and guiding toward correction.)

These verses encourage righteous and discerned judgment, based on truth and love, not appearances or self-righteousness.

And yes, God should absolutely destroys. He should destroy everyone. We deserve it. It's only by his grace that he's not. We are currently murdering more black children than are being born in this country. We have taken God out of government and education. We deserve nothing but judgment.

That doesn't change the fact that God already announced a judgment on Israel and has cut it off. Again you are making a category error. What we deserve isn't the issue here. The issue here is what God said he would do and what he did with the nation of Israel that has already been done.

No you just misrepresented me.

I was trying to correct you when you were making a category error.

Don't take it personal

Did you just judge me for judging? That was very hypocritical.

It actually is your place to judge and it's mine. Christians are commanded to judge by God's standards. We are committed to judge righteously. We are also commanded to use scripture as our ultimate foundation.

You brought up Abraham and Sodom and Gomorrah... Which was an entirely different instance and circumstance. You are ignoring what scripture says in these instances about Israel and instead looking back towards a different instance with a different city.

I'm quoting scripture of what God said he would do and what he clearly did in 70 AD onward.

Don't be so open-minded that your brain falls out. I understand you've been taught by the modern evangelical Church to love Israel unconditionally and that it plays an important part in Christianity and biblical prophecy but you need to ask yourself does it? Does scripture really support that? Because I can assure you it does not.

Yes we can love our neighbors and we can pray for the safety of the people in Israel and Iran and anywhere in that wars and conflicts would be over. In fact we should That's her Christian duty. But Israel is a pagan nation just like any other. It holds no special place or significance. In fact it's under a curse from God so it is worse off in many ways than other pagan nations.

Israel's rejection of God's Word, Jesus their promised Messiah, and torturing and killing their completely blameless Messiah cut Israel off from God completely.

Scripture foretold of this and demonstrates this in multiple places and in multiple ways but I'll just focus on one parable here.

The Parable of the Fig Tree (Luke 13:6-9)

Luke 13:6-9 "He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down."

In this parable, the fig tree symbolizes Israel. God, as the owner of the vineyard, has given Israel time and opportunities to bear fruit—representing repentance and faithfulness to His covenant. However, the tree (Israel) has failed to bear fruit. The intercession by the dresser (Christ) suggests that God was extending mercy and giving Israel more time to repent. If there is still no repentance, the tree would be cut down—symbolizing Israel's rejection and eventual judgment.

The Cursing of the Fig Tree (Matthew 21:18-19)

Matthew 21:18-19 "Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered. And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away."

Here, Jesus curses the fig tree, which again symbolizes Israel. The fig tree, bearing no fruit, represents Israel's outward religious appearance (the leaves) but lack of true righteousness and faith. The curse signifies God's judgment on Israel for failing to recognize Jesus as the Messiah.

How This Relates to Israel Being Cut Off and Gentiles Being God’s New People

1. Israel's Rejection of God:

The fig tree is often interpreted as a symbol of Israel throughout Scripture. In the parables, its barrenness represents Israel's failure to live up to its covenant with God. Despite God’s patience, there comes a time when Israel's spiritual barrenness leads to judgment.

2. The Gentiles Grafted In:

This theme of Israel’s failure and the inclusion of the Gentiles is more explicitly discussed in Romans 11:17-21:

“And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee... because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith.”

Paul teaches that Israel (the original branches) was cut off due to unbelief, and the Gentiles (wild olive branches) were grafted in. This symbolizes the inclusion of the Gentiles in God's covenant promises after Israel's rejection of the Messiah.

3. The Extension of God’s Kingdom:

The parable and the cursing of the fig tree both point to a broader theme: Israel’s failure to bear fruit (faithfulness to God and recognition of Jesus) resulted in judgment, but through this, God’s salvation was extended to the Gentiles.

Matthew 21:43 reinforces this: "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof." This directly indicates that the privileges of being God's people were taken from Israel and given to a "nation" (the church, composed of Jews and Gentiles) that would bear fruit.

Summary:

The Parable of the Fig Tree and the Cursing of the Fig Tree symbolize Israel's spiritual barrenness and impending judgment for rejecting the Messiah. The Gentiles, represented by wild olive branches in Romans, are then grafted into God’s covenant, becoming part of His people through faith in Christ. Israel's cutting off serves as a warning, while the inclusion of the Gentiles marks the expansion of God's kingdom to all nations.

After the foretold destruction of Jerusalem and the temple happened in 70 AD, right within the same generation that Jesus said it would, Israel has no further part in biblical prophecy and has no special significance. Zero.

It has become a den of vipers and a synagogue of Satan. Christians should view it the same as any other pagan nation.

In fact God explicitly states that he removed the hedge protection from Israel so your prayer for one goes against God's will and his prophecy through Isaiah.

Isaiah 5:5

"And now go to; I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard: I will take away the hedge thereof, and it shall be eaten up; and break down the wall thereof, and it shall be trodden down."

In this verse, God speaks of removing His protective hedge from Israel (often symbolized as a vineyard) as a consequence of their disobedience, leading to judgment and destruction.

What the heck are you talking about?

Someone falsely accused me of celebrating the destruction of Israel with my post.

I told Then they were misrepresenting me and slandering me and in the prayers that they had just mentioned they were going to make they should ask God for discernment so they didn't auto mode simp for Israel and commit a sin in the process against someone else.

This has nothing to do with my righteousness. This has to do with a false assertion and me refuting that false assertion.

Lol

Yeah I think they actually did a lot of damage despite reports from Israel and the Biden administration.

There was just a WH press conference saying that US military destroyers help to intercept missiles and claiming nothing got through but I've literally watched half dozen videos of missiles impacting the ground from locals cell phone videos.

Here's just one post https://www.instagram.com/p/DAly9fiyZva/?igsh=MTJzY3luejg3dWJ6dw==

To my knowledge they've never had an attack of this magnitude.

While the IDF / MOSSAD could absolutely do that I think in this instance it's just more likely that their defense system is just simply overwhelmed.

Where exactly did I say I was celebrating?

While you're praying ask God for discernment that you wouldn't misrepresent and slander others foolishly.

I was pretty proud of that one. Had to share.

Where have I talked about myself at all?

The biblical definition of pride would be exalting myself particularly above the Word of God.

I'm defending the word of God against you. That's called "faith"

This is why women aren't allowed to teach or be pastors. Go get your husband and I can have a logical discussion with the head of your household.

Idolatry is defined as worshiping anything outside of God.

Scripture is God's living Word.

I don't worship scripture, I worship God according to his word.

Satan is a scripture out of context and twists scripture as well as ignores its authenticity and authority.... Kind of like you're doing right now.

Did you notice how does the both of us I was the only one appealing to scripture and using the Bible to support my position? You were just telling me your feels

You're not a Christian. You need to repent and believe the Gospel and infallible Word of God.

PS The Bible was written over 1500 years, not hundreds. See how ignorant you are?

Maybe I should be talking to your husband.

Oh man.... You genuinely suck at understanding the Bible and Christianity. You really need to get into a solid church and under qualified leadership.

All Scripture is "God-breathed" (2 Timothy 3:16) and that holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:21), the argument against the Bible as "just words of men" misunderstands the divine origin and authority of Scripture. Below is a point-by-point response to this argument:

1. Scripture is God-Breathed, Not Merely Words of Men

The claim that the Bible consists only of "words of men" ignores the essential doctrine that Scripture is divinely inspired. According to 2 Timothy 3:16, "All Scripture is breathed out by God" (ESV). This means that while human authors wrote the Bible, they did so under the direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit. The Bible is not just a collection of human thoughts; it is the Word of God, authoritative and inerrant.

Response: God used human instruments to pen His Word, but those words are not the product of mere human wisdom or opinion. Rather, as Peter explains, "no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:20-21). Therefore, the Bible is both fully the Word of God and trustworthy for all matters of faith and practice.

2. God's Revelation in Scripture is Complete and Sufficient

The argument suggests that relying on the Bible limits God to a "box" or formula. However, Reformed theology teaches that God's revelation through Scripture is complete and sufficient. The Bible is not exhaustive of all of God’s knowledge, but it is sufficient for guiding believers in all aspects of faith, worship, and life. This principle is known as the sufficiency of Scripture.

Response: Scripture itself teaches that God's revelation in His Word is sufficient for our faith: "His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us to His own glory and excellence" (2 Peter 1:3). The Bible contains everything necessary for understanding God’s will and for spiritual growth. Far from limiting God, the Bible reveals God’s will, pointing us to His sovereign plan for salvation, through which the Holy Spirit works in the lives of believers.

3. God’s Spirit and God’s Word are Not in Conflict

The argument claims that one should "rely on the spirit of God within" rather than the written Word. However, from a Reformed Baptist perspective, there is no conflict between the Holy Spirit and the Word of God. The Holy Spirit does not speak apart from Scripture but rather works through the Word to illuminate, convict, and guide believers.

Response: Jesus Himself declared that the Spirit of truth would guide His followers "into all the truth" (John 16:13), which the apostles and prophets then recorded in the Scriptures. The Holy Spirit continues to work through those Scriptures today, teaching us and revealing the truths of God. Hebrews 4:12 says, "For the word of God is living and active," showing that God's Word is not a dead letter but a living, powerful instrument by which the Spirit convicts and transforms. To separate the Spirit from the Word is to misunderstand the way in which God has chosen to reveal and work through His Word.

4. Jesus Christ Affirms the Authority of Scripture

Christ Himself affirmed the authority and sufficiency of Scripture. When confronted with temptation, Jesus responded by quoting Scripture, saying, "It is written..." (Matthew 4:4, 7, 10). He taught that "not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished" (Matthew 5:18), upholding the authority and eternal relevance of the written Word of God.

Response: If Jesus Christ, the living Word of God, relied on and affirmed the authority of Scripture, how can we argue that trusting in the Bible is "putting God in a box"? Far from limiting God, Scripture is the very means by which He reveals Himself to us. To claim that we should bypass the Bible in favor of relying on a subjective sense of the "Spirit within" opens the door to error, as our own perceptions and feelings are prone to sin and distortion.

5. Warnings Against Subjective "Revelations" Apart from Scripture

Relying on an internal "spirit of God within" without the grounding of Scripture is dangerous, as it can lead to subjective and often contradictory views of God. Throughout church history, false teachings and heresies have arisen when people claimed to receive direct revelations apart from Scripture.

Response: The Bible warns against such reliance on personal feelings or supposed revelations that contradict the revealed Word of God. In Galatians 1:8, Paul warns: "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed." The written Word provides an objective standard by which to measure all spiritual experiences and teachings, ensuring that we remain faithful to God's revealed truth.

6. The Holy Spirit Illuminates Scripture, Not Apart from It

It is true that the Holy Spirit dwells within believers, guiding and sanctifying them. However, the Spirit works primarily through the Word of God to lead Christians into truth. The Spirit and the Word are inseparable in the work of salvation and sanctification.

Response: Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would "teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you" (John 14:26). The Spirit's role is not to give new revelation outside of Scripture but to help believers understand and apply the Word that has already been revealed. Paul echoes this in 1 Corinthians 2:12-13, stating that we have received the Spirit "that we might understand the things freely given us by God." Therefore, far from limiting our reliance on the Spirit, the Bible is the very instrument through which the Spirit speaks to and guides us today.

Conclusion

The Bible, as God’s inspired and infallible Word, is not simply a collection of human ideas, but it is the very revelation of God, given to guide, correct, and instruct His people. To rely on the Bible is not to "put God in a box," but to trust in the authority of the means by which He has chosen to reveal Himself. The Holy Spirit works through Scripture to bring life, illumination, and transformation. As believers, we should hold fast to the Bible, knowing that it is the surest and most reliable source of God's will for our lives.

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Thanks! Truth sounds like hate to those the hate truth.

People like you that know their scriptures get what I'm saying and understand the points I'm making and why I'm making them.... Not to be contentious, but because it's incredibly important for Christians.

You mean the guy that Only recently started taking the Christian faith seriously?

I am.

He's new to the faith. This is a correction to him and everyone else that's unaware.

whoosh

That didn't mean experts. That meant married men with obedient children that meet the biblical qualifications for pastors or elders as laid fourth in scripture.

You stepped right into a quagmire because of your ignorance.

Shhhh handshake. I wasn't making fun of anyone.

But now I will....

You're kinda dumb. My proof is what we see in scripture and what we see demonstrated by Jesus, the apostles and clear as day verses like 1 Timothy 2:5

You have no proof. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Just "maybe" "it's possible"

I don't deal in "what ifs" when it comes to God's Word.

If I was "eating" them you'd know it. Trust me. This was insult free and mild toned argumentation.

Scripture teaches us "A wise man receives correction" and Christians should teach and correct each other. Iron sharpens iron.

It also has a verse that's very relevant to you... Proverbs 26:17

Thank you! You as well.

I swear the state of modern evangelical Christianity is horrible. It basically T-shirt slogan Christianity with theology not deep enough to get your ankles wet.

For many of these "Christians" church is just a 30 minute social club that makes them feel good a few times a month. They don't go much deeper than the platitudes the preacher says and don't meditate on God's Word.

Okay give me ONE example from scripture of Jesus or the apostles or the OT prophets praying to anyone besides God or asking any angles or saints in heaven to pray / intercede for them that backs up that claim.

I'll wait.

Lol the original churches were gatherings of believers in homes, barns, and fields.

Lol name 1000. Then show me they disagree on salvific issues.

What a slanderous misrepresentation.

I encourage every to pray for DJT.... EFFECTIVELY to GOD as scripture instructs us.