Cowards downvoting with no ability to provide substance or refute any arguments.
He was suspended not banned. But I get it, nuance seems to escape you.
Moving some of my post to the comments because the OP was way too long and unpolished for my liking:
This is just a quick list of issues off the top of my head, I know there could be much more questions brought into play. However, I am going to close this out in a way that is consistent with my post history. I am not saying Elon Musk cannot be a useful tool for the White Hats. I used to entertain the position that he could be a converted White Hat, I feel like that was more copium than anything on my part.
As a nerd and a gamer I really wanted to like Elon, and you can check my history iirc I don't have much of anything negative to say about him at all before the H-1B situation. However, seeing both his messaging, what he was willing to go to war over, and his actions during that whole debacle really caused me to start questioning his motives again. Could he still be a Grey Hat? Maybe. Could he be a compromised Black Hat that is on the leash of the White Hats? Sure. Could he be a full on Black Hat Trojan Horse? I think this is also a possibility, and one that I hope and think Trump would be accutely aware of.
The biggest conclusion to all of this that I want to be the main take away here is: Nobody should be beyond questioning. There is no holy figure in this movement that is beyond reproach. The founder's built this system with the intent that an active citizenry was necessary to uphold it. Q never wanted us to sit back and be fully passive. That is what the "operation trust" critics would argue about the movement, and I think when people shut down critical discussion here over figures that we are just supposed to "trust".
That sort of thinking and behavior is exactly what would be needed for an operation trust sort of scenario. I feel like there has been way too much groupthink present lately, and way too much zealotry to be quite frank. We should welcome the questioning and we should dispel criticism with actual facts and debate. "The Great Awakening" is about the ability to think beyond our past limitations, question established narratives, and to be ever seeking towards the direction of the truth.
Anyways, this post is getting to be way too long now. Running out of time to post it, and am not able to polish and trim it down like I wanted to. Was supposed to be out the door 10 minutes ago, but I felt it was important to get his one out because I feel like there has been too much thought police regulating in regards to Musk and other critical topics recently.
You created a strawman to fight against. Me calling Elon "fucking retarded" in this instance, does not mean that I think all of his actions are also retarded by extension.
Tommy Robinson while doing some measures of good is also a zionist puppet and controlled opposition. Do you know that one of the core tenants of free masonry has always heavily revolved around crafting an "image" through philanthropic work. Do you not understand that someone can do good things on the surface, but be hiding a dark and corrupted interior?
Do you know anything about Elon Musk's past or who and what his mother is? Are you this easily fooled that you find questioning these figures actions beyond reproach?
There are so many accounts of people who have performed great acts even that of "saving the children" as a public facing front, but in reality were not who they portrayed themselves to be. Do you understand how controlled opposition works or the concept of a Trojan Horse?
Wtf are you talking about Asmongold doesn't engage in any sort of drug use and was never banned on Twitch. Nobody should surely trust you because you are incapable of getting even your most basic facts straight. Elon Musk has shown more instances of being "doped up" than Asmon, there are concrete examples of him engaging in that behavior. So if you're using that as a means to discredit you are only further discrediting yourself.
You know the "his own kid turned tranny", isn't the argument you think it is. Do you know much about the occult world? Do you know Elon Musk's background, do you know who his mother is? Do you know it is common for these Baphomet worshipping types to corrupt at least one of their children and turn them into the opposite sex?
If you do know about these practices that is common in the occult and celebrity/elite world, then have you ever entertained that maybe it wasn't "the left" that turned Elon's kid into a tranny?
No, that is not the concern and the way you are framing this situation is fucking stupid.
People are concerned because he has built this entire fake persona that never needed to exist. It isn't "I play games", it was "I play games and I am absolutely world class at it." In Diablo it was rank 1, in Path of Exile 2 hardcore it was rank 7.
The problem is, he has been 100% lying. This isn't a white lie, this isn't a lie about oh I did this one achievement once. This is a lie about a core aspect of his identity as a person. Do you understand why that is a problem?
If someone is willing to create a massive amount of lies about the little things, what do you think they will do about the larger issues? Not only that, he just removed someone's blue check mark and thought he was "exposing" them with the leaked dm's, when in reality he just revealed how fucking retarded he is by thinking that was anything to expose in the first place.
I am still willing to be proven wrong on this. I was happy to see Elon join the movement and purchase twitter as much as anyone here. But starting with the H-1B shit, and then how he has gotten exposed even further with this whole gaming debacle, then framing that within the context of his questionable past, I am starting to really believe this dude is a total fraud and a trojan horse to the movement.
Not only is Elon giving the most basic bitch arguments in that video, but some of the shit he's pedaling about helping "rebuild" is either full on ignorant or outright sinister.
Yep, will try to find what I can whenever I get a chance. Don't think it's something I necessarily got from one source but through an amalgamation of sorts.
The Zionists were also backing the original Nazi's as a means to displace Jews and have a reason to send them back to the lands of "Israel" that they acquired rights to from the British. You appear to he missing a lot of information.
Yeah I'm not arguing for operation trust 2.0 at all, it just doesn't add up for me either when I run through all of the scenarios. However I am just keying in on Elon Musk specifically.
The part I disagree with Clandestine on here is Elon. There are a lot of possible reasons why Elon would have made these moves to act as a Trojan horse to the movement either for his own or the cabal's advancement.
Another thing people don't ask. Is if Twitter was truly their most valuable asset, then why would the deep state have ever let that sell to Elon happen? Now there are also a lot possible answers to that question, but it's a question I haven't really seen to be pondered much.
My thing is this. He would have gotten around 85% of the "cool person points" by just playing the games and sucking ass at them. People just like to see that big figures like him relate to them.
Mind you he streams these games and has even gone on podcasts with other streamers to discuss the state of the games. People just like to see that he likes what they like.
However, the problem comes in when he decides to fake that he is the number 1 player in these games. And there's been this whole thing going on with gamers and even in the Joe Rogan interview of "how does he pull it off??"
All the while running Tesla, X, Boring company, all the political moves, planning for Doge, posting on X all day. Which leads people to heap praise on him for being so exceptionally efficient with his time, and he sits there and basks in this praise even though it's all a big lie.
Agreed, especially with how grindy PoE2 is, and that's not counting that it's hardcore where if you die your character is lost essentially.
Agreed, we will indeed know when this all shakes out. Someone brought up another good possibility of him being a Grey Hat in response to me recently.
- There are many possibilities
- This doesn't rule out that he's being used as a tool for the white hats
- However, it does continue to stack against his character
- Another thing I found recently was that DARPA had an AI project called XAI that started in 2017 and ended in 2021. Then Elon after purchasing twitter and renaming it to X threw his hat in the ring and launched xAI in 2023.
Not likely.
- One, people are finding evidence that his account is set to Chinese servers and language.
- Two, this is now happening in Path of Exile 2, not just Diablo. And PoE2 ranking his much much harder than Diablo 4.
Same, thanks for the conversation thus far! Will post here if I find anything of note when I get a chance to do a little digging.
Kind of a meme, kind of not. Elon is getting exposed in the gaming streamer world right now, because it has become quite evident that he is account sharing and pretending to be one of the top rated PoE2 players in the world on the hardcore mode leaderboards.
Yes, it is kind of a meme because it's about gaming. However, this along with all of the other question marks related to him recently starts to bring more things about his character into question.
If someone is willing to lie to you about one thing, odds are they will do the same about others. This also isn't just an instance of him telling a single lie related to gaming. This is an ongoing lie that spans back to Diablo 4, where he is trying to put on the facade that he is one of the top rated players in the world. In Diablo 4, he was the "#1 Ranked Player". In his interview with Joe Rogan he was even receiving praises for these accolades and somehow being able to pull it off while doing everything else he does.
I happened upon these suspicions a few weeks back when digging into the whole Adrian Dittman rabbit hole, but decided not to post anything till the dust settled some more. In this video, streamers are laughing at him because he is supposed to be one of the most experienced and high ranked hardcore players, but at the same time he is demonstrating a lack of the most low level knowledge and skill while playing.
Here are some of the original findings I happend upon:
- https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1hjbnw5/elon_musk_streamed_poe_2_from_someone_elses/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1hqq0g8/comment/m4tgvwe/
- It appears he is hiring someone from China to play his character for him.
I think you're wrong about the aspect of crosses not being used as a positive symbol before it existing as a torture device, however I cannot rebut that with any tangible evidence atm I'll have to do some digging since this is based off information I believe I saw over a decade or more ago.
Saying the Cross is a symbol of a torture murder device is like saying the rainbow is a symbol for fags. Both were hijacked symbols that had positive meanings before being coopted.
Also I say this as respectfully as possible I do think that is a warped view on the cross. If we are to believe Jesus's purpose was to die for our sins. This means his crucifixion was a central aspect of that action. The cross is the symbol of the greatest gift ever given to mankind and Jesus's destruction and victory over the forces of death and darkness.
Someone said if you mirror it, it is also like a piece of the masonic square and compass. It also looks like the Roman numeral 11, and when mirrored the first part looks like the Roman numeral 9, so 9/11.
Also, another interesting note. DARPA launched their XAI project in 2017 and ended it in 2021. Then in 2023 Elon Musk launches his xAI.
The irony of this all is you saying "Nuance is knowing what you don't know." And then proceeding to state that the majority of haters arrive at their opinions via the media.
For someone making such claims, you seem to be quite unaware of the things that you are unaware about.
So "haters" here on GAW aka people that dare criticize Elon's own actions and statements, only know about Elon what we hear from the media? What an asinine statement.
So? Do you have anything of substance to put forth that would enlighten me on why this is a non-issue?